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Re: 2018-2019 College/Draft Thread (part 1) 

Post#801 » by 2010 » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:01 pm

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2010 wrote:I keep telling you all and I am dead serious about it. But I think Keldon Johnson is gonna enter that conversation right along with Barrett, Romeo, Cam and Little for best wings. He can hang with them. He just needs to be allowed to do his thing at Kentucky but their prospects don't always show what they're fully capable of in coach Cal's system.

Keldon can score from every level plus he has a post game. He can shoot the 3 and he is sneaky athletic. But above all, what intrigues me most about him is his intensity level and the dog in him. He has that Westbrook/Kobe/Sexton factor mentally. I think this kid is gonna be a steal.

He is very physical too and doesn't back down from anyone. He has had to earn everything he's been given in this game, being a late-bloomer. I am sure the Knicks will scout him heavily since they are well connected with Kentucky.

He gives me more athletic Paul Pierce x Bonzi Wells (with 3pt range) vibes.


I'll defiantly keep my eyes on the kid this season, Hard to evaluate Romeo, Grimes, Johnson, Zion, Reddish, and RJ especially without the season starting...

But the talent levels seems to be synonymous with the last two draft classes, They've made the NBA fun to watch

Whose the purest shooter outta this draft bunch?


Best shooter with lottery potential is Tyler Herro. Best shooter out of the bolded above is Romeo Langford.
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Post#802 » by 2010 » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:07 pm

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FatboyRealPetty wrote:None of them appear as true playmakers the closes ones and probably Grimes and cam and both are more shot creator first playmaking second type of players which Is still fine because that is pretty much the wave of today’s basketball

If your the knicks cam reddish is a no brainer pick if available. He fits the bill of “no position basketball” and probably the closes thing the knicks would ever get to obtaining a player that can be actually be a threat with the ball in his hand as a shot maker/playmaker something none our point guards seem to know how to do not even at a decent level


RJ is a better playmaker and decision-maker than Cam. And Romeo is a better pure scorer than Cam.


I think R.J. has a good feel for the game and is simply a smart player in general who will make the correct passes I don’t know if he”s exactly a better playmaker. Cams Been playing the point guard role since high school and has the better guard like Tendencies. He surveys the floor very well, extremely successful and patient in pick and roll situations can thread the needle with either hand and a tough cover because you have to respect his range, if you over play him he”s driving to either find a teammate or attack the basket.

I like R.J.”s potential too as a playmaker though I think he’s currently the #1 pick in this draft if he starts hitting the jumper consistently it’ll open up his whole game even further


Once the games start you'll see that Cam is a bit overrated as a point forward because he tends to make poor decisions. His decision-making skills are erratic and he turns the ball over a lot. RJ has the higher BBIQ and is smarter off the court as well. In addition to being erratic as a point forward, Cam isn't ass savvy as RJ off the court.

I definitely rate RJ above Cam as a guy who can run an offense. In the beginning I admit I slept on RJ's vision, and playmaking hard. But I am now a big fan of that element of his game. As for my evaluation of Cam, I don't expect y'all to agree with me now but in time you'll see he is not best suited as a point forward. He can do it sure, cuz he is skilled...but it isn't where his bread should be buttered. Cam needs to be developed as a scoring wing. The adjustment needs to be made with him acquiring more of a killer instinct and alpha mentality.
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Re: 2018-2019 College/Draft Thread (part 1) 

Post#803 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:43 pm

2010 wrote:
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2010 wrote:I keep telling you all and I am dead serious about it. But I think Keldon Johnson is gonna enter that conversation right along with Barrett, Romeo, Cam and Little for best wings. He can hang with them. He just needs to be allowed to do his thing at Kentucky but their prospects don't always show what they're fully capable of in coach Cal's system.

Keldon can score from every level plus he has a post game. He can shoot the 3 and he is sneaky athletic. But above all, what intrigues me most about him is his intensity level and the dog in him. He has that Westbrook/Kobe/Sexton factor mentally. I think this kid is gonna be a steal.

He is very physical too and doesn't back down from anyone. He has had to earn everything he's been given in this game, being a late-bloomer. I am sure the Knicks will scout him heavily since they are well connected with Kentucky.

He gives me more athletic Paul Pierce x Bonzi Wells (with 3pt range) vibes.


I'll defiantly keep my eyes on the kid this season, Hard to evaluate Romeo, Grimes, Johnson, Zion, Reddish, and RJ especially without the season starting...

But the talent levels seems to be synonymous with the last two draft classes, They've made the NBA fun to watch

Whose the purest shooter outta this draft bunch?


Best shooter with lottery potential is Tyler Herro. Best shooter out of the bolded above is Romeo Langford.


I have Grimes as a better shooter than Romeo.
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Post#804 » by IllmaticHandler » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:48 pm

After Drafting Knox we need an A Type personality. Knicks need some fire and passion, and RJ has that in spades. Cam is very close to Knox in personality.
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Post#805 » by cgf » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:56 pm

2010 wrote:
Illightinati wrote:
2010 wrote:I keep telling you all and I am dead serious about it. But I think Keldon Johnson is gonna enter that conversation right along with Barrett, Romeo, Cam and Little for best wings. He can hang with them. He just needs to be allowed to do his thing at Kentucky but their prospects don't always show what they're fully capable of in coach Cal's system.

Keldon can score from every level plus he has a post game. He can shoot the 3 and he is sneaky athletic. But above all, what intrigues me most about him is his intensity level and the dog in him. He has that Westbrook/Kobe/Sexton factor mentally. I think this kid is gonna be a steal.

He is very physical too and doesn't back down from anyone. He has had to earn everything he's been given in this game, being a late-bloomer. I am sure the Knicks will scout him heavily since they are well connected with Kentucky.

He gives me more athletic Paul Pierce x Bonzi Wells (with 3pt range) vibes.


I'll defiantly keep my eyes on the kid this season, Hard to evaluate Romeo, Grimes, Johnson, Zion, Reddish, and RJ especially without the season starting...

But the talent levels seems to be synonymous with the last two draft classes, They've made the NBA fun to watch

Whose the purest shooter outta this draft bunch?


Best shooter with lottery potential is Tyler Herro. Best shooter out of the bolded above is Romeo Langford.


Was about to go off about calling Romeo a better shooter than Nas, then realized Little wasn't listed :lol:

That said Romeo over Grimes?
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Re: 2018-2019 College/Draft Thread (part 1) 

Post#806 » by Capn'O » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:01 pm

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2010 wrote:I keep telling you all and I am dead serious about it. But I think Keldon Johnson is gonna enter that conversation right along with Barrett, Romeo, Cam and Little for best wings. He can hang with them. He just needs to be allowed to do his thing at Kentucky but their prospects don't always show what they're fully capable of in coach Cal's system.

Keldon can score from every level plus he has a post game. He can shoot the 3 and he is sneaky athletic. But above all, what intrigues me most about him is his intensity level and the dog in him. He has that Westbrook/Kobe/Sexton factor mentally. I think this kid is gonna be a steal.

He is very physical too and doesn't back down from anyone. He has had to earn everything he's been given in this game, being a late-bloomer. I am sure the Knicks will scout him heavily since they are well connected with Kentucky.

He gives me more athletic Paul Pierce x Bonzi Wells (with 3pt range) vibes.


I'll defiantly keep my eyes on the kid this season, Hard to evaluate Romeo, Grimes, Johnson, Zion, Reddish, and RJ especially without the season starting...

But the talent levels seems to be synonymous with the last two draft classes, They've made the NBA fun to watch

Whose the purest shooter outta this draft bunch ?


Right?! These last few drafts have been off the chain!

I wonder if and when it ends.
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Re: 2018-2019 College/Draft Thread (part 1) 

Post#807 » by Fat » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:02 pm

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RJ is a better playmaker and decision-maker than Cam. And Romeo is a better pure scorer than Cam.


I think R.J. has a good feel for the game and is simply a smart player in general who will make the correct passes I don’t know if he”s exactly a better playmaker. Cams Been playing the point guard role since high school and has the better guard like Tendencies. He surveys the floor very well, extremely successful and patient in pick and roll situations can thread the needle with either hand and a tough cover because you have to respect his range, if you over play him he”s driving to either find a teammate or attack the basket.

I like R.J.”s potential too as a playmaker though I think he’s currently the #1 pick in this draft if he starts hitting the jumper consistently it’ll open up his whole game even further


Once the games start you'll see that Cam is a bit overrated as a point forward because he tends to make poor decisions. His decision-making skills are erratic and he turns the ball over a lot. RJ has the higher BBIQ and is smarter off the court as well. In addition to being erratic as a point forward, Cam isn't ass savvy as RJ off the court.

I definitely rate RJ above Cam as a guy who can run an offense. In the beginning I admit I slept on RJ's vision, and playmaking hard. But I am now a big fan of that element of his game. As for my evaluation of Cam, I don't expect y'all to agree with me now but in time you'll see he is not best suited as a point forward. He can do it sure, cuz he is skilled...but it isn't where his bread should be buttered. Cam needs to be developed as a scoring wing. The adjustment needs to be made with him acquiring more of a killer instinct and alpha mentality.


I don’t see him as a true point forward though he’s a shot maker first playmaker 2nd I just feel he has the best playmaking capability out of any of the other wings in the draft he”s not perfect and definitely needs to fix some of his decision making but his versatility and skill set is far more than just a scoring wing. It’ll be interesting to see how cal runs the offense once cam gets fully healthy.

I still have R.J. and Zion ranked 1 and 2 and cam ranked 3.
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Post#809 » by Fat » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:11 pm

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2010 wrote:I keep telling you all and I am dead serious about it. But I think Keldon Johnson is gonna enter that conversation right along with Barrett, Romeo, Cam and Little for best wings. He can hang with them. He just needs to be allowed to do his thing at Kentucky but their prospects don't always show what they're fully capable of in coach Cal's system.

Keldon can score from every level plus he has a post game. He can shoot the 3 and he is sneaky athletic. But above all, what intrigues me most about him is his intensity level and the dog in him. He has that Westbrook/Kobe/Sexton factor mentally. I think this kid is gonna be a steal.

He is very physical too and doesn't back down from anyone. He has had to earn everything he's been given in this game, being a late-bloomer. I am sure the Knicks will scout him heavily since they are well connected with Kentucky.

He gives me more athletic Paul Pierce x Bonzi Wells (with 3pt range) vibes.


I'll defiantly keep my eyes on the kid this season, Hard to evaluate Romeo, Grimes, Johnson, Zion, Reddish, and RJ especially without the season starting...

But the talent levels seems to be synonymous with the last two draft classes, They've made the NBA fun to watch

Whose the purest shooter outta this draft bunch ?


Right?! These last few drafts have been off the chain!

I wonder if and when it ends.


This draft doesn’t seem that great outside of the obvious guys expected to go early
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Post#810 » by 2010 » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:14 pm

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Illightinati wrote:
I'll defiantly keep my eyes on the kid this season, Hard to evaluate Romeo, Grimes, Johnson, Zion, Reddish, and RJ especially without the season starting...

But the talent levels seems to be synonymous with the last two draft classes, They've made the NBA fun to watch

Whose the purest shooter outta this draft bunch?


Best shooter with lottery potential is Tyler Herro. Best shooter out of the bolded above is Romeo Langford.


I have Grimes as a better shooter than Romeo.


I haven't looked at Grimes as much as the top-5 wing guys + Johnson (cuz I initially didn't think the Knicks would go after another combo guard type) but I'll keep an eye out on him and look at some stats and video of him.

I'll start looking at him now since it appears that the Knicks aren't developing Frank as a point guard so they may go with another PG/combo guard, where as before I didn't think that route would be realistic.
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Post#811 » by 2010 » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:15 pm

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2010 wrote:
Illightinati wrote:
I'll defiantly keep my eyes on the kid this season, Hard to evaluate Romeo, Grimes, Johnson, Zion, Reddish, and RJ especially without the season starting...

But the talent levels seems to be synonymous with the last two draft classes, They've made the NBA fun to watch

Whose the purest shooter outta this draft bunch?


Best shooter with lottery potential is Tyler Herro. Best shooter out of the bolded above is Romeo Langford.


Was about to go off about calling Romeo a better shooter than Nas, then realized Little wasn't listed :lol:

That said Romeo over Grimes?


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Post#812 » by 2010 » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:18 pm

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I think R.J. has a good feel for the game and is simply a smart player in general who will make the correct passes I don’t know if he”s exactly a better playmaker. Cams Been playing the point guard role since high school and has the better guard like Tendencies. He surveys the floor very well, extremely successful and patient in pick and roll situations can thread the needle with either hand and a tough cover because you have to respect his range, if you over play him he”s driving to either find a teammate or attack the basket.

I like R.J.”s potential too as a playmaker though I think he’s currently the #1 pick in this draft if he starts hitting the jumper consistently it’ll open up his whole game even further


Once the games start you'll see that Cam is a bit overrated as a point forward because he tends to make poor decisions. His decision-making skills are erratic and he turns the ball over a lot. RJ has the higher BBIQ and is smarter off the court as well. In addition to being erratic as a point forward, Cam isn't ass savvy as RJ off the court.

I definitely rate RJ above Cam as a guy who can run an offense. In the beginning I admit I slept on RJ's vision, and playmaking hard. But I am now a big fan of that element of his game. As for my evaluation of Cam, I don't expect y'all to agree with me now but in time you'll see he is not best suited as a point forward. He can do it sure, cuz he is skilled...but it isn't where his bread should be buttered. Cam needs to be developed as a scoring wing. The adjustment needs to be made with him acquiring more of a killer instinct and alpha mentality.


I don’t see him as a true point forward though he’s a shot maker first playmaker 2nd I just feel he has the best playmaking capability out of any of the other wings in the draft he”s not perfect and definitely needs to fix some of his decision making but his versatility and skill set is far more than just a scoring wing. It’ll be interesting to see how cal runs the offense once cam gets fully healthy.

I still have R.J. and Zion ranked 1 and 2 and cam ranked 3.


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Post#813 » by Fat » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:22 pm

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2010 wrote:
Once the games start you'll see that Cam is a bit overrated as a point forward because he tends to make poor decisions. His decision-making skills are erratic and he turns the ball over a lot. RJ has the higher BBIQ and is smarter off the court as well. In addition to being erratic as a point forward, Cam isn't ass savvy as RJ off the court.

I definitely rate RJ above Cam as a guy who can run an offense. In the beginning I admit I slept on RJ's vision, and playmaking hard. But I am now a big fan of that element of his game. As for my evaluation of Cam, I don't expect y'all to agree with me now but in time you'll see he is not best suited as a point forward. He can do it sure, cuz he is skilled...but it isn't where his bread should be buttered. Cam needs to be developed as a scoring wing. The adjustment needs to be made with him acquiring more of a killer instinct and alpha mentality.


I don’t see him as a true point forward though he’s a shot maker first playmaker 2nd I just feel he has the best playmaking capability out of any of the other wings in the draft he”s not perfect and definitely needs to fix some of his decision making but his versatility and skill set is far more than just a scoring wing. It’ll be interesting to see how cal runs the offense once cam gets fully healthy.

I still have R.J. and Zion ranked 1 and 2 and cam ranked 3.


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Post#814 » by Fat » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:27 pm

GRimes style of play is a nice fit with ntilkina and the team in general. Idk if he’s better than the wings in the draft though I think we’ll take another one despite just drafting Knox especially if we end up with a top 5 pick
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Post#815 » by cgf » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:33 pm

Everyone needs to keep sleeping on Little so he can fall to us at 4 when the NBA decides to hook us up in the lottery, despite us screwing up the tank.
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Post#816 » by cgf » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:34 pm

FatboyRealPetty wrote:GRimes style of play is a nice fit with ntilkina and the team in general. Idk if he’s better than the wings in the draft though I think we’ll take another one despite just drafting Knox especially if we end up with a top 5 pick


This is why the dream scenario is getting the 1st OA pick so we can trade back for both Little & Grimes 8-)
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Post#817 » by 2010 » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:35 pm

FatboyRealPetty wrote:GRimes style of play is a nice fit with ntilkina and the team in general. Idk if he’s better than the wings in the draft though I think we’ll take another one despite just drafting Knox especially if we end up with a top 5 pick


Yeah, not sure Grimes has the upside of the consensus top-5 wing options.
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Post#818 » by Illightinati » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:36 pm

cgf wrote:
2010 wrote:
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I'll defiantly keep my eyes on the kid this season, Hard to evaluate Romeo, Grimes, Johnson, Zion, Reddish, and RJ especially without the season starting...

But the talent levels seems to be synonymous with the last two draft classes, They've made the NBA fun to watch

Whose the purest shooter outta this draft bunch?


Best shooter with lottery potential is Tyler Herro. Best shooter out of the bolded above is Romeo Langford.


Was about to go off about calling Romeo a better shooter than Nas, then realized Little wasn't listed :lol:

That said Romeo over Grimes?


Forgot to add Littles, gotta watch some tape
Didn't know he was a shooter :o

Defiantly need to see this college season before I talk anymore about this draft
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Post#819 » by Capn'O » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:39 pm

FatboyRealPetty wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
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I'll defiantly keep my eyes on the kid this season, Hard to evaluate Romeo, Grimes, Johnson, Zion, Reddish, and RJ especially without the season starting...

But the talent levels seems to be synonymous with the last two draft classes, They've made the NBA fun to watch

Whose the purest shooter outta this draft bunch ?


Right?! These last few drafts have been off the chain!

I wonder if and when it ends.


This draft doesn’t seem that great outside of the obvious guys expected to go early


I dunno. That's what they said last year too. The quality of the draft escalated as the year progressed.
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Post#820 » by cgf » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:47 pm

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Best shooter with lottery potential is Tyler Herro. Best shooter out of the bolded above is Romeo Langford.


Was about to go off about calling Romeo a better shooter than Nas, then realized Little wasn't listed :lol:

That said Romeo over Grimes?


Forgot to add Littles, gotta watch some tape
Didn't know he was a shooter :o

Defiantly need to see this college season before I talk anymore about this draft


He's not just a shooter, he's the best shooter of the big 4! The kid already has good technique on his stroke, with a sky-high release point, and he's comfortable firing away off the dribble all of the way out past the 3pt-line.

It's hard not to be fascinated by the Dukies, but Nas is the one who's game I just can't help but love most. :lol:
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