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Re: RE: Re: NBA to eliminate one and done rule 

Post#61 » by blanko » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:29 am

The Uknickorn wrote:the young talent that comes in takes so many years to develop, the quality of the game gets tarnished... that being said, yep lebron will play with his son now wow lol
High school players and 1 and done players have been coming to the nba for over a decade. Especially 1 and done . this will change nothing. I actuallh want a euro football type system where children are signed at 15 so we dont have those dirty aau leaches around the kids

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Re: NBA to eliminate one and done rule 

Post#62 » by blue and orange » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:32 am

How is Calipari gonna survive without fielding a team of one and dones LOL. Duke has started doing that which is absolutely scary.
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: NBA to eliminate one and done rule 

Post#63 » by K-DOT » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:52 am

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NoLayupRule wrote:they should adjust rookie contracts as well

there are just gonna be more and more raw HS recruits now so teams are gonna sink years into their development and be faced with a player about to be worth something when his contract is up

also there are gonna be a lot of players drafted on pure conjecture without the college game as a measuring stick

in truth this might make the late lottery and post lottery picks much more valuable


and superstar college athletic programs worthless
Rookie contracts should be expanded to 5~6 years with team options after 3

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How about if a player is drafted out of hs, they have two years of eligibility in the G League before their rookie contract kicks in, but they can't play in the NBA more than say 10 games a year during that time

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Re: RE: Re: NBA to eliminate one and done rule 

Post#64 » by NoLayupRule » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:49 pm

blanko wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:they should adjust rookie contracts as well

there are just gonna be more and more raw HS recruits now so teams are gonna sink years into their development and be faced with a player about to be worth something when his contract is up

also there are gonna be a lot of players drafted on pure conjecture without the college game as a measuring stick

in truth this might make the late lottery and post lottery picks much more valuable


and superstar college athletic programs worthless
Rookie contracts should be expanded to 5~6 years with team options after 3

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i agree
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Re: NBA to eliminate one and done rule 

Post#65 » by nykballa2k4 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:39 pm

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NoLayupRule wrote:actully I think it would fix both the nba and the NCAA if nba teams could draft a guy and then send him to college. It wouldn’t count on the cap but he would still get paid. He could develop and the team could decide if he stayed or came out. Better than the g league


I like that idea, but it doesn't make practical sense to me. In foreign leagues they do something similar with putting guys on loan no? however, it basically kills the facade of student athlete, it creates a disparity for the genders, also will put too many hands in the kitchen perhaps. If Lakers take Ball and want him at UCLA and want him to work on his scoring but UCLA needs him to pass the ball around to win, then there are competing odds. If the NBA wants Ayton shooting 3's, but Arizona needs him to be a behemoth inside, then who wins?

Part of the appeal he’s doing away with the fallacy of the student athlete

There’s already so much money and so much disparity in so much gender bias going on in college sports that destroying the whole system is the best thing that can happen to it.

As far as the practicality of how a player plays, I think that would just fall on the coach of the college team. There’s influence I’m sure between the NBA and the G league coaching styles but if you opt to leave your player in college then you’re on the risks and rewards that come with that. He gets trained by these great coaches but also runs the risk of learning style that isn’t yours and an injury.

I feel like years ago teams used to draft players that would then come into the NBA years later. I think we drafted bill Bradley before he came to the NBA by several years


destroying the system that we have means that guys like coach K are not going to be coaching college since revenue will tank.
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Re: NBA to eliminate one and done rule 

Post#66 » by NoLayupRule » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:32 pm

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I like that idea, but it doesn't make practical sense to me. In foreign leagues they do something similar with putting guys on loan no? however, it basically kills the facade of student athlete, it creates a disparity for the genders, also will put too many hands in the kitchen perhaps. If Lakers take Ball and want him at UCLA and want him to work on his scoring but UCLA needs him to pass the ball around to win, then there are competing odds. If the NBA wants Ayton shooting 3's, but Arizona needs him to be a behemoth inside, then who wins?

Part of the appeal he’s doing away with the fallacy of the student athlete

There’s already so much money and so much disparity in so much gender bias going on in college sports that destroying the whole system is the best thing that can happen to it.

As far as the practicality of how a player plays, I think that would just fall on the coach of the college team. There’s influence I’m sure between the NBA and the G league coaching styles but if you opt to leave your player in college then you’re on the risks and rewards that come with that. He gets trained by these great coaches but also runs the risk of learning style that isn’t yours and an injury.

I feel like years ago teams used to draft players that would then come into the NBA years later. I think we drafted bill Bradley before he came to the NBA by several years


destroying the system that we have means that guys like coach K are not going to be coaching college since revenue will tank.

That’s fine too

I have mad respect for guys like Coach K and all they’ve done for sports at the same time they have been getting rich on unpaid labor from these kids for decades

If they can’t make that money anymore I’m not gonna shut a tear

I’m of the mindset that the people doing the actual work, taking the actual risk, and providing the actual entertainment deserve the lion share of the profit

Sure Coach K is amazing and he’s able to teach like crazy and there will be a market for that but maybe It’s not using unpaid labor getting colleges incredibly rich
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Re: NBA to eliminate one and done rule 

Post#67 » by knicksNOTslick » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:53 am

As long as the G League continues to develop, I'm all for it. It's a lot more fluid now that players can be sent back and forth between leagues so it shouldn't be a big deal for players who still need development. Everyone should have the option of going pro after they graduate HS. Kids like Mitchell Robinson would've been a lottery pick but hurt their draft stock just because they sat out a year.
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Re: NBA to eliminate one and done rule 

Post#68 » by Fat Kat » Fri Apr 5, 2019 4:16 pm

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Re: NBA to eliminate one and done rule 

Post#69 » by NYKAL » Fri Apr 5, 2019 5:20 pm

yeah, go back to drafting kids with even Less Fundamentals. As it is the one and done guys were coming in woefully unprepared, this will only weaken the product on the floor imo. From a fans standpoint, I'd be happy for a 2and done rule at least to improve the product, not water it down. From a humanist standpoint, I can definitely relate to those who say things like if you can go into the military, you should be able to join the NBA.
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Re: NBA to eliminate one and done rule 

Post#70 » by denterprise » Fri Apr 5, 2019 7:29 pm

NYKAL wrote:yeah, go back to drafting kids with even Less Fundamentals. As it is the one and done guys were coming in woefully unprepared, this will only weaken the product on the floor imo. From a fans standpoint, I'd be happy for a 2and done rule at least to improve the product, not water it down. From a humanist standpoint, I can definitely relate to those who say things like if you can go into the military, you should be able to join the NBA.


The majority of one and done athletes should spend at minimum two years in the G-League and develop.
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Re: NBA to eliminate one and done rule 

Post#71 » by denterprise » Fri Apr 5, 2019 7:30 pm

denterprise wrote:
NYKAL wrote:yeah, go back to drafting kids with even Less Fundamentals. As it is the one and done guys were coming in woefully unprepared, this will only weaken the product on the floor imo. From a fans standpoint, I'd be happy for a 2and done rule at least to improve the product, not water it down. From a humanist standpoint, I can definitely relate to those who say things like if you can go into the military, you should be able to join the NBA.


The majority of one and done and now soon high school athletes should spend at minimum two years in the G-League and develop.
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Re: NBA to eliminate one and done rule 

Post#72 » by NYKAL » Fri Apr 5, 2019 7:31 pm

denterprise wrote:
NYKAL wrote:yeah, go back to drafting kids with even Less Fundamentals. As it is the one and done guys were coming in woefully unprepared, this will only weaken the product on the floor imo. From a fans standpoint, I'd be happy for a 2and done rule at least to improve the product, not water it down. From a humanist standpoint, I can definitely relate to those who say things like if you can go into the military, you should be able to join the NBA.


The majority of one and done athletes should spend at minimum two years in the G-League and develop.


I would fully endorse that.
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Re: NBA to eliminate one and done rule 

Post#73 » by magnumt » Fri Apr 5, 2019 7:46 pm

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Post#74 » by CDAZ » Fri Apr 5, 2019 8:07 pm

Looks like we'll need more rounds in the draft and different contract structure for 3rd round and down.
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Re: NBA to eliminate one and done rule 

Post#75 » by GONYK » Fri Apr 5, 2019 8:18 pm

NYKAL wrote:
denterprise wrote:
NYKAL wrote:yeah, go back to drafting kids with even Less Fundamentals. As it is the one and done guys were coming in woefully unprepared, this will only weaken the product on the floor imo. From a fans standpoint, I'd be happy for a 2and done rule at least to improve the product, not water it down. From a humanist standpoint, I can definitely relate to those who say things like if you can go into the military, you should be able to join the NBA.


The majority of one and done athletes should spend at minimum two years in the G-League and develop.


I would fully endorse that.
You would need almost a separate draft for them then.

Not too many teams will be keen on using picks on players who mandatorily won't contribute for years and have a high bust rate.
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Re: NBA to eliminate one and done rule 

Post#76 » by Fat Kat » Sun Apr 7, 2019 4:09 am

Teams have done a relatively good job at drafting the right non-college attending players. The league’s been better at that than drafting college players with all their fundamentals.
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