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El Poochio wrote:If every member of this forum create 3 social media accounts and call KD a rat I think we can lure him
cgmw wrote:Basically, in conclusion: I'd like Dolan to get off my lawn.
Capn'O wrote:We're not the kid cousin. We're the recovering meth addict older brother. And we've been clean for a few years now, thank you very much. Very uncouth to bring it up.
New York trades Courtney Lee
They've been trying, sources say. With Lee on the books, the Knicks can carve out about $30 million in room depending on where they draft -- that's about $8 million short of Durant's max, and $3 million below the max for a player with between seven and nine years of experience.
They would prefer not to sacrifice a second-round pick in shedding Lee's $12.7 million salary for 2019-20. That is going to be harder than you'd think, and maybe harder than it should be. New York needs to find a playoff team that values Lee's on-court contributions more than the cap space it would sacrifice to get him.
Example: Lee to Utah for Alec Burks, on an $11 million expiring deal. The Jazz have hoarded potential space for this summer, but what are their odds of luring anyone better than Lee? They might stay over the cap to re-sign their own free agents, anyway. But they are so deep in wings, it might not be worth the trouble.
Lee to New Orleans for Alexis Ajinca and Darius Miller worked until New Orleans dealt Ajinca to the Clippers. Lee wouldn't close the Pellies' hole at small forward, but he's better than Miller (and Wesley Johnson.)
The more radical move for New York: shopping Tim Hardaway Jr. Good luck.
Greenie wrote:KD ain’t built for NY.
He gets half of what we gave Melo and dude is crumbling.
No thanks.
I’m here for Klay. Klay won’t GAF.
awy wrote:y'all crazy for preferring kyrie over kd. absolutely mental.
kd at his size and skill is impossible to really shut down. he won't have many 'bad games'. his defense is pretty elite now too. he doesn't need to be oakley to be productive. his skill and measurements is a cheat code that allows him to be a unique weapon even when 'soft'.
but more importantly, he's probably reading this thread right now and ppl hating on him is gonna make him not want to come.
Greenie wrote:KD ain’t built for NY.
He gets half of what we gave Melo and dude is crumbling.
No thanks.
I’m here for Klay. Klay won’t GAF.
cgmw wrote:Basically, in conclusion: I'd like Dolan to get off my lawn.
Capn'O wrote:We're not the kid cousin. We're the recovering meth addict older brother. And we've been clean for a few years now, thank you very much. Very uncouth to bring it up.
Jeff Van Gully wrote:awy wrote:y'all crazy for preferring kyrie over kd. absolutely mental.
kd at his size and skill is impossible to really shut down. he won't have many 'bad games'. his defense is pretty elite now too. he doesn't need to be oakley to be productive. his skill and measurements is a cheat code that allows him to be a unique weapon even when 'soft'.
but more importantly, he's probably reading this thread right now and ppl hating on him is gonna make him not want to come.
the only problem with KD is his age. other than that...
and i thought about the lineup... but you just find a way. he can still guard forwards.
cgmw wrote:Basically, in conclusion: I'd like Dolan to get off my lawn.
Capn'O wrote:We're not the kid cousin. We're the recovering meth addict older brother. And we've been clean for a few years now, thank you very much. Very uncouth to bring it up.
cgf wrote:Jeff Van Gully wrote:awy wrote:y'all crazy for preferring kyrie over kd. absolutely mental.
kd at his size and skill is impossible to really shut down. he won't have many 'bad games'. his defense is pretty elite now too. he doesn't need to be oakley to be productive. his skill and measurements is a cheat code that allows him to be a unique weapon even when 'soft'.
but more importantly, he's probably reading this thread right now and ppl hating on him is gonna make him not want to come.
the only problem with KD is his age. other than that...
and i thought about the lineup... but you just find a way. he can still guard forwards.
And with his skillset & game, his age wouldn't even really become a concern unless he wants a 2nd contract from us.
I mean; we're talking about a 7 ft sniper without a major injury history and who has a skilled/quick playing style that doesn't require the kind of physical beating that most other 7fters in NBA history have absorbed. A guy who may not have even reached the absolute peak of his abilities yet. as his game has continually evolved. I dunno if LeBron will be able to play until he's 40, but KD will...especially if the next evolution in his game is going to be his playmaking as a primary ballhandler.
Sorry fans, I just can't waste my time reading foolish assumptions that doesn't make any sense in this NBA era. You guys love to listen to these so call experts and then make your foolish conclusions about the possibility of KD leaving a championship team for a rebuilding team, to do what Melo couldn't. The NBA doesn't work like that if the player can control his destination. I CAN ONLY TAKE KD TO KNICKS SERIOUSLY IF HE ANNOUNCE "RIGHT NOW" THAT HE IS SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING LEAVING GSW AT THE END OF THE SEASON TO PLAY FOR THE KNICKS. Let me be the FIRST to say that KD will NEVER say that right now, and it has more to do with his ring collection than how his announcement would affect his teammates. WE WILL GET THE MODERATORS INVOLVE FOR THIS BET. 
My advice to pondering gamblers, don't fall for the trap that will only make me look good and right like always. 
cgf wrote:Greenie wrote:KD ain’t built for NY.
He gets half of what we gave Melo and dude is crumbling.
No thanks.
I’m here for Klay. Klay won’t GAF.
A) KD is a better player than Melo, and he doesn't have those super frustrating holes in his game that he has just never addressed, that made it so annoying that Melo never chose to put an emphasis on improving his defense or creating for others outside of that one season where point-forward-Melo looked like an absolute monster.
B) KD's got rings and finals MVPs...even before going to GSW he made it to the finals and WCFs...while Melo had a long list of 1st round exits. And KD would achieve more in NYC than Melo did because he's better and would have more help which leads right into:
C) A lot of the frustration with Melo came from the trade to get him preventing the team from having the assets to build a real squad around him...especially with how fun STAT & that young team were to watch for that half-season leading up to the Melo trade. Which wouldn't be a factor with KD coming in FA...especially with KP giving us 1 young star on the team already; regardless of what Knox, Frank, the 2019 FRP, Mitch, Zo, Dot, etc. amount to.
And finally; KD may go off on social media and get riled up by silly ****, but he responds to that by winning finals MVPs. Not by succumbing to the pressure & crumbling...this isn't LeBron we're talking about
cgmw wrote:Basically, in conclusion: I'd like Dolan to get off my lawn.
Capn'O wrote:We're not the kid cousin. We're the recovering meth addict older brother. And we've been clean for a few years now, thank you very much. Very uncouth to bring it up.
Jeff Van Gully wrote:cgf wrote:Jeff Van Gully wrote:
the only problem with KD is his age. other than that...
and i thought about the lineup... but you just find a way. he can still guard forwards.
And with his skillset & game, his age wouldn't even really become a concern unless he wants a 2nd contract from us.
I mean; we're talking about a 7 ft sniper without a major injury history and who has a skilled/quick playing style that doesn't require the kind of physical beating that most other 7fters in NBA history have absorbed. A guy who may not have even reached the absolute peak of his abilities yet. as his game has continually evolved. I dunno if LeBron will be able to play until he's 40, but KD will...especially if the next evolution in his game is going to be his playmaking as a primary ballhandler.
KD broke his foot. has screws. i think that's a time bomb.
cgmw wrote:Basically, in conclusion: I'd like Dolan to get off my lawn.
Capn'O wrote:We're not the kid cousin. We're the recovering meth addict older brother. And we've been clean for a few years now, thank you very much. Very uncouth to bring it up.
cgf wrote:Jeff Van Gully wrote:cgf wrote:
And with his skillset & game, his age wouldn't even really become a concern unless he wants a 2nd contract from us.
I mean; we're talking about a 7 ft sniper without a major injury history and who has a skilled/quick playing style that doesn't require the kind of physical beating that most other 7fters in NBA history have absorbed. A guy who may not have even reached the absolute peak of his abilities yet. as his game has continually evolved. I dunno if LeBron will be able to play until he's 40, but KD will...especially if the next evolution in his game is going to be his playmaking as a primary ballhandler.
KD broke his foot. has screws. i think that's a time bomb.
Fair enough, I don’t know enough about foot problems to say. But it hasn’t been an issue since (right?), which is why I don’t worry about it unless our medical staff red flags him.
If it is just a matter of time before his foot is done, then that could cap him, but outside of that foot he should be dangerous until he’s ****ing 40
TruthBeTold wrote::lol: Sorry fans, I just can't waste my time reading foolish assumptions that doesn't make any sense in this NBA era. You guys love to listen to these so call experts and then make your foolish conclusions about the possibility of KD leaving a championship team for a rebuilding team, to do what Melo couldn't. The NBA doesn't work like that if the player can control his destination. I CAN ONLY TAKE KD TO KNICKS SERIOUSLY IF HE ANNOUNCE "RIGHT NOW" THAT HE IS SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING LEAVING GSW AT THE END OF THE SEASON TO PLAY FOR THE KNICKS. Let me be the FIRST to say that KD will NEVER say that right now, and it has more to do with his ring collection than how his announcement will affect his teammates.
You guys are talking possibility of KD coming to NYC and I'm saying there is NONE, unless GSW are in decline.
TRUTHBETOLD: I'M WILLING TO BET ANYONE RIGHT NOW THAT IF THE GSW WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP IN 2019, THERE IS NO CHANCE KD WILL SIGN WITH THE KNICKS. IF ANYONE DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT, THEN LET'S BET. THE LOSER WILL BE BANNED FOR A YEAR, AND WHY THEY WERE BANNED MUST BE WRITTEN IN THEIR SIG.
RIDICULOUS: A 2 TIME, AND POSSIBLY 3 TIME FINALS MVP, LEAVING A WINNING ORGANIZATION AT THE PEAK OF THE ORGANIZATION'S SUCCESS AND THEIRS, FOR ARGUABLE THE MOST DYSFUNCTIONAL AND INEPT SPORTS TEAM IN ALL OF AMERICA. Picture KD in his NEW knicks uniform on his couch watching Golden State Warriors win ANOTHER championship without him. OUCH!
cgf wrote:Greenie wrote:KD ain’t built for NY.
He gets half of what we gave Melo and dude is crumbling.
No thanks.
I’m here for Klay. Klay won’t GAF.
A) KD is a better player than Melo, and he doesn't have those super frustrating holes in his game that he has just never addressed, that made it so annoying that Melo never chose to put an emphasis on improving his defense or creating for others outside of that one season where point-forward-Melo looked like an absolute monster.
B) KD's got rings and finals MVPs...even before going to GSW he made it to the finals and WCFs...while Melo had a long list of 1st round exits. And KD would achieve more in NYC than Melo did because he's better and would have more help which leads right into:
C) A lot of the frustration with Melo came from the trade to get him preventing the team from having the assets to build a real squad around him...especially with how fun STAT & that young team were to watch for that half-season leading up to the Melo trade. Which wouldn't be a factor with KD coming in FA...especially with KP giving us 1 young star on the team already; regardless of what Knox, Frank, the 2019 FRP, Mitch, Zo, Dot, etc. amount to.
And finally; KD may go off on social media and get riled up by silly ****, but he responds to that by winning finals MVPs. Not by succumbing to the pressure & crumbling...this isn't LeBron we're talking about
Greenie wrote:KD ain’t built for NY.
He gets half of what we gave Melo and dude is crumbling.
No thanks.
I’m here for Klay. Klay won’t GAF.
thebuzzardman wrote:TruthBeTold wrote::lol: Sorry fans, I just can't waste my time reading foolish assumptions that doesn't make any sense in this NBA era. You guys love to listen to these so call experts and then make your foolish conclusions about the possibility of KD leaving a championship team for a rebuilding team, to do what Melo couldn't. The NBA doesn't work like that if the player can control his destination. I CAN ONLY TAKE KD TO KNICKS SERIOUSLY IF HE ANNOUNCE "RIGHT NOW" THAT HE IS SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING LEAVING GSW AT THE END OF THE SEASON TO PLAY FOR THE KNICKS. Let me be the FIRST to say that KD will NEVER say that right now, and it has more to do with his ring collection than how his announcement will affect his teammates.
You guys are talking possibility of KD coming to NYC and I'm saying there is NONE, unless GSW are in decline.
TRUTHBETOLD: I'M WILLING TO BET ANYONE RIGHT NOW THAT IF THE GSW WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP IN 2019, THERE IS NO CHANCE KD WILL SIGN WITH THE KNICKS. IF ANYONE DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT, THEN LET'S BET. THE LOSER WILL BE BANNED FOR A YEAR, AND WHY THEY WERE BANNED MUST BE WRITTEN IN THEIR SIG.
RIDICULOUS: A 2 TIME, AND POSSIBLY 3 TIME FINALS MVP, LEAVING A WINNING ORGANIZATION AT THE PEAK OF THE ORGANIZATION'S SUCCESS AND THEIRS, FOR ARGUABLE THE MOST DYSFUNCTIONAL AND INEPT SPORTS TEAM IN ALL OF AMERICA. Picture KD in his NEW knicks uniform on his couch watching Golden State Warriors win ANOTHER championship without him. OUCH!
I wasn't convinced at all until you starting using the capslock. Then I was sold, utterly.
