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Post#521 » by blueNorange » Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:48 pm

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Negative unless you're working off the assumption that all positions are created equal. Players add value based on what they contribute to the team's chances not what they do in relation to their position...this isn't the NBA all roles/positions can't contribute equal value. I'm going to repeat if the Giants aren't able to adequately address their QB position soon then this is a major F up. Quick what would it take to acquire Leveon Bell? go ahead and compare that to what Matthew Stafford's trade value ii

don't explain to me the value of positons, i know all that. i've agreed with you that giants should've drafted a qb.

however.

saquon barkley is a once in a generation talent, so it cancels it out. if the giants find a qb, they'll pair him with the best rb in football and OBJ who's on a HOF career trajectory. i'm willing to roll the dice.

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My bad if I came off as condescending talking about positional value but that's my main argument against the Barkley pick(that and the rookie QB contract being the best asset in the league). How much value do you place in Barkley? If the Giants had made the Jets-Colts trade is Barkley worth more than all those assets?

Btw I'm not sure this guy gets positional value

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gettleman doesn't understand position value, but at the same time had one of the best drafts for the giants in years. barkley/hill/carter/hernandez look like studs.

how much value to i place on barkley? a lot, he's not like any other running back. he's hard to bring down, he can also stop on a dime and then explode. i'm still waiting until shurmur consistently uses him as a wide receiver because barkley vs a lb is a no contest every time down.
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Re: NFL Thread 2 - New competition - check post 106 

Post#522 » by Louielou » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:49 pm

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John Mara you are a part of the problem you helped create this circus, I know Odell is crazy but I would rather he call it like it is then just be silent and accept losing. You get the feeling ownership cares more about creating a good PR image, and making money over charging fans with the PSL's that seems to be more important to the Mara's then winning. I guess when your 1-5 maybe everybody should STFU. Mara only speaks up over media comments and not after the Giants get killed on the field or when Eli is getting his ass kicked.


I haven't been able to take Mara seriously since the Josh Brown fiasco so I am not sure if I am being unfair to him when my initial reaction most things he says in public is "stfu and be better at your job"
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Post#523 » by EchelonNYK » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:45 am

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Post#524 » by IllmaticHandler » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:58 pm

Lets Go Giants....


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Post#525 » by EchelonNYK » Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:16 pm

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Any former high school or college WR's here? You may want to give the Jets a call, because they literally have 2 active WR's right now.
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Post#526 » by blue and orange » Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:28 pm

Would love to have Kyle Murray drafted by the Giants explosive speed and can throw out of the pocket and he knows how to protect himself, looks like he will be playing baseball though, was drafted by the A's 9th overall.
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Post#527 » by EchelonNYK » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:18 pm

No excuses after that one. The Jets had more than enough time to load up on some WR's that are on the market after releasing Pryor. They choose to go with Andre Roberts and Darnold's favorite target from USC who runs a 4.7. Complete disservice to the young QB.
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Re: NFL Thread 2 - New competition - check post 106 

Post#528 » by cuyankees » Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:07 am

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blueNorange wrote:don't explain to me the value of positons, i know all that. i've agreed with you that giants should've drafted a qb.

however.

saquon barkley is a once in a generation talent, so it cancels it out. if the giants find a qb, they'll pair him with the best rb in football and OBJ who's on a HOF career trajectory. i'm willing to roll the dice.

hey fat kat, could you give me an and1? :D


My bad if I came off as condescending talking about positional value but that's my main argument against the Barkley pick(that and the rookie QB contract being the best asset in the league). How much value do you place in Barkley? If the Giants had made the Jets-Colts trade is Barkley worth more than all those assets?

Btw I'm not sure this guy gets positional value

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gettleman doesn't understand position value, but at the same time had one of the best drafts for the giants in years. barkley/hill/carter/hernandez look like studs.

how much value to i place on barkley? a lot, he's not like any other running back. he's hard to bring down, he can also stop on a dime and then explode. i'm still waiting until shurmur consistently uses him as a wide receiver because barkley vs a lb is a no contest every time down.

Looking fwd to next year when Gmen have a top 5 pick and draft a QB with all those weapons.
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Re: NFL Thread 2 - New competition - check post 106 

Post#529 » by blue and orange » Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:23 pm

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You sure you still want him after watching that debacle against Purdue.
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Post#532 » by blueNorange » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:53 pm

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OBJ is a walking hall of famer and mara/media/francesa are making it easy for him to leave. :nonono:

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5th? Not getting good picks in these trades.
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Post#535 » by F N 11 » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:06 pm

Giants trading everybody. That’s great!!!
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5th? Not getting good picks in these trades.

Snacks gotta be worth a 3rd rounder at least come on...
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Post#537 » by mugzi » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:13 pm

Agreed Snacks is worth a 3rd rounder. Excellent run stuffer. Maybe the Gmen are trying to clear some salary and go on a spending spree- D and O line we have holes aplenty. Vernon needs to go also IMO.
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Post#538 » by Fat Kat » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:25 pm

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5th? Not getting good picks in these trades.

Snacks gotta be worth a 3rd rounder at least come on...


I’m thinking his salary had a lot to do with his trade value. Giants are actually tanking and it’s the right thing to do.
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Post#539 » by IllmaticHandler » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:29 pm

Salary has alot to do with Snacks only getting a fifth. If you NFL watcher you should know this by Now. It will be very hard to get a 3rd rounder for him especially mid season.
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5th? Not getting good picks in these trades.

Snacks gotta be worth a 3rd rounder at least come on...


positional value. 30 year old 2-down player that doesn't effect the passing game isn't worth a 3rd rounder.
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