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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#261 » by duetta » Wed Aug 8, 2018 10:14 pm

NYKWarlock wrote:Not the kind of person I want in charge of my country.


Talk about your proverbial witch hunt....
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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#262 » by stuporman » Wed Aug 8, 2018 10:15 pm

K-DOT wrote:
stuporman wrote:Trump is the President therefore his decisions, words and actions effect every citizens' life.... Hillary aint nothing so her decisions, words and actions don't effect everyone.

That's why Trump threads are relevant right now but Hillary ones are usually just petty, whiny men bitching about a woman that deserve to be locked.

More so the first sentence, but this is pretty much it

Also, cause this thread is sourced pretty comprehensively, even though people might not agree with his conclusions, Clyde does his homework. All the Hillary threads have no sourcing or are just Q conspiracies

If someone found actual, credible sourcing that showed Hillary had people assassinated, we'd let it stand


Trump supporters keep the tin foil producers in business...jobs! :lol:
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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#263 » by stuporman » Wed Aug 8, 2018 10:16 pm

Capn'O wrote:
stuporman wrote:Trump is the President therefore his decisions, words and actions effect every citizens' life.... Hillary aint nothing so her decisions, words and actions don't effect everyone.

That's why Trump threads are relevant right now but Hillary ones are usually just petty, whiny men bitching about a woman that deserve to be locked.


But I thought there were only two politicians ever.


Thanks Obama....
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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#264 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Aug 8, 2018 10:23 pm

Capn'O wrote:
stuporman wrote:Trump is the President therefore his decisions, words and actions effect every citizens' life.... Hillary aint nothing so her decisions, words and actions don't effect everyone.

That's why Trump threads are relevant right now but Hillary ones are usually just petty, whiny men bitching about a woman that deserve to be locked.


But I thought there were only two politicians ever.


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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#265 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Aug 8, 2018 10:36 pm

Six bombshells from Rick Gates' testimony in the Paul Manafort trial

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/08/07/rick-gates-five-bombshells-his-paul-manafort-trial-testimony/921899002/

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WASHINGTON – Rick Gates, the ex-business partner of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, provided the most explosive testimony yet in the federal government's tax evasion, bank fraud and conspiracy case against Manafort.

Gates, who testified Monday and returned to the witness stand Tuesday, detailed years of alleged lawbreaking at Manafort's political firm and admitted to stealing money from secret overseas bank accounts.

Gates, who also worked on Trump's campaign, is the star witness against Manafort. He agreed to cooperate with federal prosecutors and has pleaded guilty to conspiracy and lying to the FBI.

The trial is the first stemming from special counsel Robert Mueller's 14-month investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election and possible collusion between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin. However, the Manafort case – as President Donald Trump has been quick to point out – focuses on Manafort's business dealings and has no direct connection to Manafort's work with the Trump campaign.

Here's a look at some of the highlights of Gates' testimony:

Seven-year criminal conspiracy

Gates testified that he engaged in an extensive criminal conspiracy with Manafort that lasted seven years and included lying to the Internal Revenue Service to avoid paying taxes and providing false documents to banks to obtains millions of dollars in loans.

Secret overseas accounts

Gates said he helped Manafort hide secret bank accounts in the United Kingdom, Cyprus and the Grenadines. He said he followed Manafort's directions in failing to disclose the overseas accounts to federal tax authorities as required by law.

"Mr. Manafort requested ... that we did not disclose foreign bank accounts,” Gates testified. He said there were 15 secret accounts.

Stealing money

Gates, under questioning by prosecutor Greg Andres, admitted that he padded his expense accounts with phony charges without Manafort's knowledge, siphoning "several hundred thousand" dollars from the secret accounts. Gates said the money he took was sent to his account in the United Kingdom and was never disclosed to his accountants or the U.S. government. He also admitted to embezzling money from other employers in the past.

Tax and bank fraud

Gates said he falsely labeled hundreds of thousands of dollars in income as loans to reduce Manafort's tax liability. He also testified that he pressed the firm's accountants to reclassify loans as income so the company could qualify for more bank loans or get favorable lending rates.

Possible embezzlement of millions

Manafort’s attorneys went on the attack against Gates on Monday, alleging that Gates told accountants to falsify Manafort's tax returns because Gates was trying to cover up the fact that he had "embezzled millions of dollars" from their firm. Gates did not have a chance to respond to those allegations Monday.

Mysterious 'Doctor K'

Gates testified Tuesday that he and Manafort engaged a law firm in Cyprus – and its director, "Doctor K" – to help hide millions of dollars they received for their work in Ukraine.

Gates said he and Manafort created an elaborate operation in Cyprus to use shell companies to secretly accept the money.

Manafort, according to Gates, assigned members of the Cypriot law firm as ghost directors of the shell corporations. The firm's director was known to Manafort and Gates as "Doctor K." Gates said the man schooled them on how to shield their operations from scrutiny by tax collectors.
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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#266 » by Phish Tank » Wed Aug 8, 2018 10:38 pm

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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#267 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Aug 8, 2018 10:39 pm

The Cyprus connection is back in the spotlight

In Paul Manafort’s Trial, a Cyprus Bank Is a Cooperating Witness
A haven for secrecy becomes the key source of evidence on the ex-Trump campaign chairman

https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-paul-manaforts-trial-a-cyprus-bank-is-a-cooperating-witness-1533643200

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NICOSIA, Cyprus—The biggest bank on this island was at the tail end of a purge of its riskiest customers—from arms traders to online casinos—when its computers started combing the books to check on an American who was attracting more public attention: Paul Manafort.

It was 2015, and the future chairman of the Donald Trump presidential campaign was still a low-profile, high-earning adviser to heads of state from Eastern Europe to Central Africa. For eight years, he had banked at this small island nation, which had a big reputation for laundering the fortunes of the ex-Soviet world’s new capitalist elite.

By then, Cyprus faced Western pressure to clean up its act, and its banks were using new software to look for suspicious customers. Mr. Manafort’s name popped into news reports after one of his clients, Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych, was toppled. That prompted an automated review of Mr. Manafort’s business at the Bank of Cyprus, the island’s largest commercial lender, according to three officials at the bank and Cyprus’s central bank.

Employees spent weeks forwarding the data over an encrypted line, they said, to the country’s anti-money-laundering unit, which, two years later, delivered them to the office of special counsel Robert Mueller in Washington.

For the past week, prosecutors have presented documentation of top-dollar purchases that they say constitute evidence of tax and bank fraud by Mr. Manafort. Vendors have recalled how Mr. Manafort would pay them using foreign bank wires.

Many, if not most, of those purchases flowed from the Bank of Cyprus or one of the smaller banks it has since absorbed, turning a lender saddled with a reputation for banking disreputable clients into something of a cooperating witness in the first trial to come from the Mueller probe.

“We gave them everything we had,” said Marios Skandalis, director of the Bank of Cyprus’s compliance division.

Mr. Manafort has pleaded not guilty. At trial, his lawyers have blamed others for his tax travails and problematic loans. He has previously acknowledged having accounts in Cyprus and said those accounts weren’t involved in any wrongdoing.

A representative for Mr. Mueller declined to comment.

The Manafort trial has shed a new light on Cyprus’s banks. For years, the eastern Mediterranean nation was one of the world’s great gateways for the fortunes of high-risk clients, particularly organized-crime suspects and billionaires sprouting from the collapse of the Soviet Union.

So many wealthy Russians moved their money into Europe and back via Cyprus—a European Union member—that from 2007 to 2012, the country of one million people was both the biggest source of foreign investment in Russia and the world’s biggest recipient of Russian investment in return, data from both countries’ central banks show.

“No Questions Asked,” promised a Russian-language ad for citizenship, awarded to anybody who bought a €2 million ($2.3 million) home here.

But while Mr. Manafort was making his fortune in political consulting, the island where he banked shifted into the crosshairs of U.S. investigators, who suspected that much of the Russian wealth stored here had been obtained through crime and laundered into the West. Mr. Manafort’s accounts were among the thousands caught in that scrutiny.

The Russian money inflow had prompted a surge of lending by the banks that received it. By 2013, so many of those loans had turned bad that several banks looked ready to fail, and Cyprus’s economy was tipping into recession. Mr. Manafort on occasion found himself unable to quickly wire payments for luxury goods, according to court records in the Mueller investigation.

“The international banking situation has been chaotic for the last 4 months with no signs of changing,” he emailed a tailor in August 2013, concerning an overdue $95,000 payment for suits, the court records show.

Desperate to save its banking industry, Cyprus asked Russian President Vladimir Putin for a bailout that year, and when he refused, the Cypriot government turned to Germany. Wary of having German taxpayers bail out the Russian billionaires who banked here, a Berlin-led EU and International Monetary Fund rescue plan forced large depositors in the islands’ banks to trade their savings for bank shares.

But that left Russian oligarchs with a commanding stake in the island’s biggest bank, itself a major concern to U.S. officials. A cavalcade of U.S. Treasury officials visited, issuing threats to cut banks’ access to U.S. dollars if practices didn’t improve, Cypriot regulators and bankers say.

Flying to New York, Cypriot politicians convinced Wilbur Ross —then a private investor, now U.S. commerce secretary—to become the largest shareholder in Bank of Cyprus. He soon began forcing Russian members off the board, including a former KGB officer who had worked with Mr. Putin, senior bank employees and government officials said.

Under U.S. pressure and new management, the bank’s practices changed. Company officials said they sat sometimes with two or three laptops on their desk at once, trying to make sense of the complex financial arrangements they had inherited. After software flagged Mr. Manafort’s finances in 2015, it took employees weeks to sort through his account.

The campaign consultant was a clear risk, compliance officers said. At another Cypriot lender acquired by the bank, he had flatly refused to answer two questions, they said: What was the source of his funds, and who ultimately owned the companies the money moved through? Following his failure to respond, his accounts were eventually closed.

Cyprus’s attorney general began investigating Mr. Manafort for potential money-laundering violations, though he said he never filed charges.

Mr. Manafort, for his part, went on to steer the Trump campaign through the 2016 Republican primaries. Months later, when a request for information from Mr. Mueller’s office arrived, Bank of Cyprus had already sent the information to investigators, the bank said.

By itself, the island has brought few money-laundering cases to court, some officials complain. “The difficulty I have with Cyprus in general is that everything other than money laundering, they prosecute it,” said Panicos Demetriades, former governor of Cyprus’s central bank. But in this case, he added, “They cooperated.…It’s a plus for Cyprus.”
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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#268 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Aug 8, 2018 10:41 pm

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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#270 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Aug 8, 2018 10:44 pm

Rick Wilson is scathing as always

Oh! and speaking of Assange, it looks close to certain now Ecuador will surrender him to the UK authories and he will be extradited to the USA to stand trial for conspiracy against the United States

That is NOT something Trump and associates want to happen, but it is not likely they can do anything about it
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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#271 » by Greenie » Wed Aug 8, 2018 11:22 pm

stuporman wrote:Trump is the President therefore his decisions, words and actions effect every citizens' life.... Hillary aint nothing so her decisions, words and actions don't effect everyone.

That's why Trump threads are relevant right now but Hillary ones are usually just petty, whiny men bitching about a woman that deserve to be locked.


Nope.
Trump tweets out dumb **** that doesn’t have **** to do with his job all of the time and you still see people to take that opportunity to stand on some soap box that morphs into general Trump hate that been hashed out over and over again.

The LeBron James tweet is a perfect example. Him saying whatever he said about LeBron doesn’t doesn’t effect this country at all.

It’s cool and all to bash Trump(I really don’t give a damn about what’s said here about him since I believe most of it) but there is another side to this fuqed up coin we call American politics and it’s the red side. That side seems to always be snuffed out and muted. I’m not even talking about Bill right now. Some poster was cussed out for stating an opinion in one of these Trump threads.

Trump winning should have been a wake up call to all waving that blue flag. Maybe it’s time to start listening to all sides before we end up with Trump being re-elected.

A lot of mofo’s stayed real quiet and hid their thoughts and feelings during the election due to the potential of being bashed to bits. Those same people voted for Trump. I think we’re going to see the same mess play out if we don’t start to see AT LEAST two-way CIVIL conversing.


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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#272 » by Capn'O » Thu Aug 9, 2018 12:00 am

The malicious, poorly sourced, crackpot conspiracy theories the mod team is cracking down on have very little to do with red and conservatism. This isn't the place for it and it really has no place in civil discourse. We typically have a higher standard than most forums for our basketball discussion (we do) and hold a similar standard for current affairs. If anything, I'd hope to make classic conservatism and red voices grounded in sourced reality more welcome, though I may (do) disagree. There's a ton of it and it needn't be lumped or allied with the fringe which is grounded in utter and complete nonsense.
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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#273 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Aug 9, 2018 12:10 am

Capn'O wrote:The malicious, poorly sourced, crackpot conspiracy theories the mod team is cracking down on have very little to do with red and conservatism. This isn't the place for it. We typically have a higher standard than most forums for our basketball discussion (we do) and hold a similar standard for current affairs. If anything, I'd hope to make classic conservatism and red voices grounded in sourced reality more welcome, though I may (do) disagree. There's a ton of it and it needn't be lumped or allied with the fringe which is grounded in utter and complete nonsense.


If I may speak from my personal POV, I believe the recent efforts by Knicks mods is the most cohesive and collective effort to arrive at and implement higher standards to date.

I may not always be 100% on the right side of the line in the sand, but I'm trying to respect those efforts because I do believe they are the result of considerable effort to arrive at some basic standards we really did need around here.

Providing quality links with our posts is a good practice and I believe many are buying into that in a spirit of cooperation.

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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#274 » by SOUL » Thu Aug 9, 2018 1:33 am

Greenie wrote:
stuporman wrote:Trump is the President therefore his decisions, words and actions effect every citizens' life.... Hillary aint nothing so her decisions, words and actions don't effect everyone.

That's why Trump threads are relevant right now but Hillary ones are usually just petty, whiny men bitching about a woman that deserve to be locked.


Nope.
Trump tweets out dumb **** that doesn’t have **** to do with his job all of the time and you still see people to take that opportunity to stand on some soap box that morphs into general Trump hate that been hashed out over and over again.

The LeBron James tweet is a perfect example. Him saying whatever he said about LeBron doesn’t doesn’t effect this country at all.

It’s cool and all to bash Trump(I really don’t give a damn about what’s said here about him since I believe most of it) but there is another side to this fuqed up coin we call American politics and it’s the red side. That side seems to always be snuffed out and muted. I’m not even talking about Bill right now. Some poster was cussed out for stating an opinion in one of these Trump threads.

Trump winning should have been a wake up call to all waving that blue flag. Maybe it’s time to start listening to all sides before we end up with Trump being re-elected.

A lot of mofo’s stayed real quiet and hid their thoughts and feelings during the election due to the potential of being bashed to bits. Those same people voted for Trump. I think we’re going to see the same mess play out if we don’t start to see AT LEAST two-way CIVIL conversing.


This is coming from a registered INDEPENDENT


"Listening to all sides" is just as wack as "both sides are to blame". I don't care what side you're on, blue or red, human beings were not born to be stuffed inside of a box and then forced to agree with everything thrown into that box because it's a "Republican" or "Democratic" value. I am way more left-leaning, but there are tons of things that I don't agree with as far as their tolerance on certain things or hypocrisies with arguments that they have with the right.

What is there to listen to if they're against the very fiber of what you believe in? If they believe that minorities are somehow less important than white people, if they believe gay people shouldn't have rights, if "LOL WOMEN'S RIGHTS" is a funny joke to them, these people don't deserve to be listened to because history will prove them wrong in time. This isn't saying that all conservatives or Republicans are like that, but that whole "Why can't both sides just listen to each other?" argument usually stems from the left getting mad at comments that involve non-negotiable topics, and the right are wondering why they aren't accepted when presenting these viewpoints implying that certain people don't hold value because of things out of their control.

I can understand debating and listening to views on illegal immigration (as long as it isn't tinged with racism), how government should be ran/handled, even people's views on religion and abortion as long as they're not trying to force it upon others if they want to have that choice, etc. The difference in believing that abortion and/or gay rights is that those that do aren't forcing you to abort your babies, or putting you in an arraigned marriage with a gay person, it's the people against these things (which are mostly conservatives) that want to try to decide how somebody else's life should be governed. It's like, just mind your business (as long as it's not something highly illegal obv).

The bigger issue is that most of these wackos on message boards or Reddit are Alex Jones loyalists or Milo Yiannopoulos trolls that are so steeped in a world that isn't real, going down this rabbit holes of conspiracy theories and trying to spew lie after lie to try to steer away from all the BS that actually IS happening with our president, that it's become a cesspool to try to wade through when trying to have an actual discussion with somebody from the other party. And Trump has basically provided a blueprint on how to market lying into something beneficial and hard to fight against when there's just waves and waves of it.

My grandfather (who usually votes Republican) has to change the channel when he hears Donald Trump speak too long/calls him a despicable human being while shaking his head, that's all I need to know TBH. You can't debate people that aren't grounded in reality. It's one thing to debate whether LeBron or Jordan is better, it's another to try and say that Boobie Gibson or somebody like that was the reason why LeBron's Cavs were so good back in the day. That's what some of these cats look like when they come out with some of their arguments that aren't based on any sort of facts or credibility. We gotta listen to those people? Nah.
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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#275 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Aug 9, 2018 2:02 am

SOUL wrote:
Greenie wrote:
stuporman wrote:Trump is the President therefore his decisions, words and actions effect every citizens' life.... Hillary aint nothing so her decisions, words and actions don't effect everyone.

That's why Trump threads are relevant right now but Hillary ones are usually just petty, whiny men bitching about a woman that deserve to be locked.


Nope.
Trump tweets out dumb **** that doesn’t have **** to do with his job all of the time and you still see people to take that opportunity to stand on some soap box that morphs into general Trump hate that been hashed out over and over again.

The LeBron James tweet is a perfect example. Him saying whatever he said about LeBron doesn’t doesn’t effect this country at all.

It’s cool and all to bash Trump(I really don’t give a damn about what’s said here about him since I believe most of it) but there is another side to this fuqed up coin we call American politics and it’s the red side. That side seems to always be snuffed out and muted. I’m not even talking about Bill right now. Some poster was cussed out for stating an opinion in one of these Trump threads.

Trump winning should have been a wake up call to all waving that blue flag. Maybe it’s time to start listening to all sides before we end up with Trump being re-elected.

A lot of mofo’s stayed real quiet and hid their thoughts and feelings during the election due to the potential of being bashed to bits. Those same people voted for Trump. I think we’re going to see the same mess play out if we don’t start to see AT LEAST two-way CIVIL conversing.


This is coming from a registered INDEPENDENT


"Listening to all sides" is just as wack as "both sides are to blame". I don't care what side you're on, blue or red, human beings were not born to be stuffed inside of a box and then forced to agree with everything thrown into that box because it's a "Republican" or "Democratic" value. I am way more left-leaning, but there are tons of things that I don't agree with as far as their tolerance on certain things or hypocrisies with arguments that they have with the right.

What is there to listen to if they're against the very fiber of what you believe in? If they believe that minorities are somehow less important than white people, if they believe gay people shouldn't have rights, if "LOL WOMEN'S RIGHTS" is a funny joke to them, these people don't deserve to be listened to because history will prove them wrong in time. This isn't saying that all conservatives or Republicans are like that, but that whole "Why can't both sides just listen to each other?" argument usually stems from the left getting mad at comments that involve non-negotiable topics, and the right are wondering why they aren't accepted when presenting these viewpoints implying that certain people don't hold value because of things out of their control.

I can understand debating and listening to views on illegal immigration (as long as it isn't tinged with racism), how government should be ran/handled, even people's views on religion and abortion as long as they're not trying to force it upon others if they want to have that choice, etc. The difference in believing that abortion and/or gay rights is that those that do aren't forcing you to abort your babies, or putting you in an arraigned marriage with a gay person, it's the people against these things (which are mostly conservatives) that want to try to decide how somebody else's life should be governed. It's like, just mind your business (as long as it's not something highly illegal obv).

The bigger issue is that most of these wackos on message boards or Reddit are Alex Jones loyalists or Milo Yiannopoulos trolls that are so steeped in a world that isn't real, going down this rabbit holes of conspiracy theories and trying to spew lie after lie to try to steer away from all the BS that actually IS happening with our president, that it's become a cesspool to try to wade through when trying to have an actual discussion with somebody from the other party. And Trump has basically provided a blueprint on how to market lying into something beneficial and hard to fight against when there's just waves and waves of it.

My grandfather (who usually votes Republican) has to change the channel when he hears Donald Trump speak too long/calls him a despicable human being while shaking his head, that's all I need to know TBH. You can't debate people that aren't grounded in reality. It's one thing to debate whether LeBron or Jordan is better, it's another to try and say that Boobie Gibson or somebody like that was the reason why LeBron's Cavs were so good back in the day. That's what some of these cats look like when they come out with some of their arguments that aren't based on any sort of facts or credibility. We gotta listen to those people? Nah.


I'd add that not every Trump voter is the lunatic fringe which you'll find in online forums. So when unsubstantiated conspiracies are thrown around they are not necessarily representing all Republican voters.

The problem with this "Base" is they demand equal time, but they don't listen to ANYTHING you present to them and FACTS ARE UNIMPORTANT TO THEM, so there never is any quid pro quo. There's a whole lot of anger though that substitutes for calm reason and that rage is most apparent when the facts presented prove their guy or their team is flawed.

Further, there is no dialogue possible when every fact-based comment is never addressed, but immediately countered with a deflection. This is now commonly called "Whataboutism" and it is petty and useless and does not, as Soul says, deserve to be given equal time. We don't have to go off on wild tangents to prove the Clinton's innocence when the topic is Trump's guilt. He's the president, not Clinton, so that's the topic.

We should have no obligation to facilitate derailing posters who demand answers for purposefully distracting off-topic fantasies. The derailment of actual discourse is a tactic that deserves no equal representation.
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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#276 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Aug 9, 2018 2:13 am

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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#277 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Aug 9, 2018 2:28 am

Someone surreptitiously audio recorded Devon Nunes at a private campaign fundraiser for Washington Congresswoman Cathy McMorris-Rodgers. Kinda like Romney's 47% speech. :noway:

https://crooksandliars.com/2018/08/devin-nunes-tells-donors-gop-must-keep

Devin Nunes Tells Donors GOP Must Keep Obstructing Mueller Or 'All Of This Goes Away'
By Karoli Kuns
8/08/18 6:35pm
43 min ago by Karoli Kuns

Rachel Maddow opened her show tonight by playing audio recordings obtained at a recent fundraiser in Washington state for Cathy McMorris Rodgers, whose seat is in far more danger than anyone realized before yesterday.

A group by the name of Fuse Washington bought a ticket to the fundraiser and recorded Nunes' remarks. There were three main clips. In the first, he suggests that a candidate releasing stolen emails could be considered criminal. Of course, we all know Wikileaks released the stolen DNC emails, so he must have felt like he was on solid ground.

Clip number 2 wasn't much of anything to speak of. He basically explained that they'd really love to impeach Rod Rosenstein but they couldn't because the Senate just didn't have the time to take it up with that Supreme Court justice pending. I guess that excuse is better than admitting there's no way they'd get even 50 votes in the Senate for that nonsense, assuming the House would even pass it.

But the last clip, now that was something special, and I've clipped it for you to hear with your own ears above.

"So therein lies, so it's like your classic Catch-22 situation, where we were at a -- this puts us in such a tough spot," Nunes explained to donors.

"If Sessions won't unrecuse, Mueller won't clear the president. We're the only ones, which is really the danger," he continued.

That's why ...we have to keep all these [seats], we have to keep the majority," Nunes insisted. "If we do not keep the majority, all of this goes away."

In other words, those are the stakes. If they lose the majority, they can't obstruct Mueller, and if they can't obstruct Mueller, "all of this goes away."

Rachel put an exclamation on that point too. "They need to stop the Russia investigation or keep using the power of Congress to impede that investigation, or else, right?"

"That's the stakes for them keeping the majority. They're using the majority to impede the investigation. If they lose the majority the investigation might go forward, and then quote all of this goes away."
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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#278 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Aug 9, 2018 2:30 am

BREAKING NEWS

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Maddow obtained tape recordings of Devin Nunes. This is ugly. He was already prison-bound, but this secures his place in a jail cell for committing obstruction of justice.

MSNBC site will play the whole video segment here. First Nunes audio clip at 5:15 point:

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/nunes-on-secret-tape-kavanaugh-vote-then-rosenstein-impeachment-1295170115625
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Post#279 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Aug 9, 2018 2:31 am

Wingo beat me to the punch
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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#280 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Aug 9, 2018 2:34 am

Clyde_Style wrote:BREAKING NEWS

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Maddow obtained tape recordings of Devin Nunes. This is ugly. He was already prison-bound, but this secures his place in a jail cell for committing obstruction of justice.

MSNBC site will play the whole video segment here. First Nunes audio clip at 5:15 point:

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/nunes-on-secret-tape-kavanaugh-vote-then-rosenstein-impeachment-1295170115625


I think former Watergate attorney, Jill Wine-Banks, is/was on Lawrence O'Donnell's show discussing the legal implications of this recording. She's pretty hot for an older woman. I think I'd do her.

(***Snarky Comment Warning***) Who are the republicans who aren't criminals? :lol:
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