Proposed Lineup Change

[thebuzzardman]

For all my THJr bashing, he's the guy capable of go to scoring. At least until Trier matures.

LFT and Frank were in the starting lineup to provide some semblance of defense, as THJr, Burke and Kanter aren't providing much.
Plus, neither demand the ball.

That means that Fiz knows he set up the offense to run around those 3 players.

It'll be interesting to see what he makes the tweak for. More shooting? More defense (not likely)? More rebounding?

[TBri1974]

For all my THJr bashing, he's the guy capable of go to scoring. At least until Trier matures.

LFT and Frank were in the starting lineup to provide some semblance of defense, as THJr, Burke and Kanter aren't providing much.
Plus, neither demand the ball.

That means that Fiz knows he set up the offense to run around those 3 players.

It'll be interesting to see what he makes the tweak for. More shooting? More defense (not likely)? More rebounding?

This.

I am not sure Lance gets benched, as he does provide veteran leadership and is the face of defensive responsibility. I was really surprised to see Trey not get more run in the 4th quarter last night. In my opinion Dodson won't start because he's barely gotten any run; at this point in time the sample size is too small. Hezonja has shot decently, but doesn't play consistent team defense and his offense MO is too similar to that of THJ, Burke and Trier, which is to say lacks ball movement and is Iso-based in nature.

So while I predicted in another thread Hezonja would replace Frank, I think I will instead guess Vonleh will be inserted for either Frank or Thomas. Vonleh has been great and should be considered part of our youth movement.

However, although I would like to see Frank as the starting PG, I don't think he shouldn't tinker with the starting 5 just yet. Burke just had a big game going back to his aggressive style of play, so let's play this out a bit longer.

Given our roster, I would start:

Burke
Frank
Hezonja - on a short leash
Vonleh
Kanter

But THJ is going to start, so I guess I would give him Trey's position for now, and start Frank at PG, THJ, Hezonja at SF, Vonleh at PF and Kanter at center. Trey, Trier and Dodson can be the guards off the bench, Lance and Mitch can be the bigs. When Knox comes back, we see if he plays his way into replacing Hezonja or Vonleh. At current, I do not see Hezonja getting resigned but I do see Vonleh getting resigned. I wonder if THJ's scoring will get teams to ask after him in a trade... ?

[F N 11]

Fiz already said he don’t wanna mess with the bench chemistry since they playing well. Frank to the bench clearly don’t be fooled. Developmental year my @ss. Defense and play as a team my behind.

[Greenie]

Trey will be benched.

Even though Timmy needs to be benched instead

It's going to be LFT or Frank

If Frank gets benched the Fizzy is clueless.

My lineup:

Trey/Frank/Zo
Frank/Zo/Lee
Knox(he has to play)/Lee/Hezo
Lance/Hezo/Von
Mitch/Kanter/Von


#TradeTimmy

[mpharris36]

WHAT IT SHOULD BE:

1: Ntilikina
2: Hardaway Jr
3: Hezonja
4: Thomas
5: Kanter

WHAT IT WILL BE:

1: Burke
2: Hardaway Jr
3: Hezonja
4: Thomas
5: Kanter

It doesn't bother me either way just get frank away from the michigan duo. Let dotson or mario slide into the starting lineup and let Frank come off the bench with Trier. It would be much more enjoyable to watch then his sitting in the corner watching our two guards chuck.

some combination of Frank/Trier/Knox/Mitch off the bench. Then I can root for the bench and hope the starters get blown to pieces.

I would gladly accept Frank in a 25-28 minute bench role if it mean he ran the offense for a majority of the time.

[robillionaire]

Mitch isn't going to start any time soon unless it's in the G league

[thebuzzardman]

Trey will be benched.

Even though Timmy needs to be benched instead

It's going to be LFT or Frank

If Frank gets benched the Fizzy is clueless.

My lineup:

Trey/Frank/Zo
Frank/Zo/Lee
Knox(he has to play)/Lee/Hezo
Lance/Hezo/Von
Mitch/Kanter/Von


#TradeTimmy

Unfortunately, Tommy is seen as part of the core, based on:
Salary
Mills enthusiasm for him
That he's the only decent experienced scorer, at the moment.

[thebuzzardman]

I wouldn't mind seeing Frank replace Burke and Dotson replace LFT.

This is based on the fact I know that THJr isn't going anywhere out of the starting lineup

[robillionaire]

I wouldn't mind seeing Frank replace Burke and Dotson replace LFT.

This is based on the fact I know that THJr isn't going anywhere out of the starting lineup

This is about the most we can hope for. THJ is seen by the FO as the face of the franchise and the guy who puts butts in the seats. He is starting all season barring injury, like it or not.

[malik959]

One or both of Thomas and Burke need to go to the bench for two way players.
Frank
Ddot
Hardaway
Von
Kanter

Or

Frank
Trier
Hardaway
Von
Kanter

It might actually be best to put Trier in the line up because u don't want him matched up with Burk off the bench

[Iron Mantis]

Fiz already said he don’t wanna mess with the bench chemistry since they playing well. Frank to the bench clearly don’t be fooled. Developmental year my @ss. Defense and play as a team my behind.

If bench chemistry is more important than rescuing your clumsy, floundering starting 5 then there's a serious problem with our coach.

Lance and Burke need to be removed from the starting lineup immediately. I understand that Hardaway coming off the bench is unrealistic due to the offensive #'s he's putting up.

And if KP returns this season, Kanter can have a seat as well.

[NoStatsGuy]

WHAT IT SHOULD BE:

1: Ntilikina
2: Hardaway Jr
3: Hezonja
4: Thomas
5: Kanter

literally 0 playmaking in that lineup, thats an 70ppg offense if theese guys playtogether for 20+ minutes.

i actually wouldnt have a problem to force frank into the PG role, which he clearly is uncomfortable with, but still i think frank belongs at PG, he just needs more time. thats why im cool with it. but in no way, shape or form can we be competitive with that lineup.

Fiz articulated on multiple occasions, that he wants the team to be competitive in games.

The above mentioned line up is the definition of starting slow, also i think hezonja should be a 4 in best case scenario

[KnickFan33]

I would like to see a game with Hezonja playing THJ's role. Just as much of a chuck, sketchier handle, and just as bad on defense. But I think his size would make a huge difference.

[ElMelo7]

Frank
Tommy
Mario
Vonleh
Kanter

[Kampuchea]

I think we should cut down our rotation, how does this look?

Burke/Baker
THJ/Baker
Lee/Mario
Thomas/Mario
Kanter/Kornet

[Jeff Van Gully]

Frank
Trier
Dot
Mario
Mitch

Its time.

close, but kanter ain't leaving.

i think they might bring vonleh in at the 4 with kanter. but i think vonleh is really an ideal modern 5 and might struggle with the smaller quicker 4s.

burke might need to become bench spark, but i think they want to keep the michigan trash brothers together.

burke
tim
frank
vonleh
kanter

is my guess. lance isn't going to trip over not starting. he knows it's honorary and temporary, i bet.

[Iron Mantis]

I think we should cut down our rotation, how does this look?

Burke/Baker
THJ/Baker
Lee/Mario
Thomas/Mario
Kanter/Kornet

Your'e missing Jarrett Jack over Burke.

[Jeff Van Gully]

I wouldn't mind seeing Frank replace Burke and Dotson replace LFT.

This is based on the fact I know that THJr isn't going anywhere out of the starting lineup

so who is your 4?

[Jeff Van Gully]

One or both of Thomas and Burke need to go to the bench for two way players.
Frank
Ddot
Hardaway
Von
Kanter

Or

Frank
Trier
Hardaway
Von
Kanter

It might actually be best to put Trier in the line up because u don't want him matched up with Burk off the bench

they're not putting tommy back at the 3

[Jeff Van Gully]

i could also see burke going to the bench...

frank
tim
wario
lance
kanter