PG: Knicks @ Heat - No Homecoming Party for Fiz

whocares1 · Post #381 » by **whocares1** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:36 pm

K P 6 wrote:It’s easy for Fiz to get on Burke but I bet he won’t gwr on Hardaway.

Tim took 10 shots..

whocares1 · Post #382 » by **whocares1** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:58 pm

reub wrote:Our future:

Frank
Dotson
Knox
Zion
KP

Mitch
THJr
Trier
Vonleh

Throw in one max free agent and I'm very happy.

Knox at the 3 is a no no for our future, but I guess for Zion maybe. Barrett should fit smoothly at the 3 tho.

Post #383 » by **j4remi** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:03 pm

whocares1 wrote:
reub wrote:Our future:

Frank
Dotson
Knox
Zion
KP

Mitch
THJr
Trier
Vonleh

Throw in one max free agent and I'm very happy.

Knox at the 3 is a no no for our future, but I guess for Zion maybe. Barrett should fit smoothly at the 3 tho.

I think fit wise, Barrett makes the most sense but the idea of having Zion/KP/Mitch flying around the court in groups of two or all three at once is just epic.

Post #384 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:26 pm

The depressing reality is that Tommy will likely be our starting SG for 2 more seasons after this.

prophet_of_rage · Post #385 » by **prophet_of_rage** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:53 pm

K P 6 wrote:It’s easy for Fiz to get on Burke but I bet he won’t gwr on Hardaway.

Hardaway does have to base his game on his scoring. He's a 2 guard. That's his metric. Are you scoring efficiently. And he's forced into a number one role. He has to score. Hardaway has also been trying on defence. Not succeeding, but trying. That's what you need.

F N 11 · Post #386 » by **F N 11** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:55 pm

whocares1 wrote:
K P 6 wrote:It’s easy for Fiz to get on Burke but I bet he won’t gwr on Hardaway.

Tim took 10 shots..

You don’t get it. U think Bc he took 10 shots in less minutes is progress?

3toheadmelo · Post #387 » by **3toheadmelo** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:13 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:The depressing reality is that Tommy will likely be our starting SG for 2 more seasons after this.

Post #388 » by **mpharris36** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:19 pm

if we get RJ Barrett...THjr can firmly plant his ass on the bench :lol:

HEZI · Post #389 » by **HEZI** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:29 pm

Even Dotson, if he keeps playing the way he as been, should be enough to push THJ out of the starting lineup by next season. I'm with whocares when he says Knox at the 3 might not be the best route to take. He's got the size but he doesn't have the lateral quickness to guard 3's. His movements are almost KAT like and the same way KAT can't really play the 4, I don't think Knox is the ideal fit at 3. Slide Knox over to the 4 and move KP to the 5. If we're lucky to get Cam Reddish he would be ideal at the 3. Tank again next year and try to land Cole Anthony (yeah I know I'm gassing myself at this point, we know it's not happening) but still that would be a squad

Cole Anthony
Damyean Dotson
Cam Reddish
Kevin Knox
Kristaps Porzingis

I've gone Besart

Sprewell4Three · Post #390 » by **Sprewell4Three** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:35 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:The depressing reality is that Tommy will likely be our starting SG for 2 more seasons after this.

Wh currently should be starting over him?

Post #391 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:49 pm

Sprewell4Three wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:The depressing reality is that Tommy will likely be our starting SG for 2 more seasons after this.

Wh currently should be starting over him?

Ideally he wouldnt be on the roster and we could start Dotson at the 2.

It was more long term. He is not the guy I would want starting and paying $18-$20mil per for the next 2+ years. But cause we are paying him so much money we are likely stuck with him as a starter.

whocares1 · Post #392 » by **whocares1** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:21 pm

K P 6 wrote:
whocares1 wrote:
K P 6 wrote:It’s easy for Fiz to get on Burke but I bet he won’t gwr on Hardaway.

Tim took 10 shots..

You don’t get it. U think Bc he took 10 shots in less minutes is progress?

Why you think he got less minutes? :roll:

nvm man you switch sides all the time so I’ll see you on my side eventually.

prophet_of_rage · Post #393 » by **prophet_of_rage** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:33 pm

fatalogic wrote:THJ isn’t bad, he’s just playing outside his role. You put Draymond Greene on this team and tell him to be the #1 option; I’m not sure the results are much better. THJ is a starting caliber 2 on at most teams up to the boarder line playoffs teams. They just need to reign him in a bit.

Exactly. Tim Hardaway is a starting level shooting guard in the NBA. He is very good. He is not a first option, but he is forced to play it for this team. Put two scorers ahead of him and everybody is cheering TIMMAY! Instead of TOMMY!

Post #394 » by **Capn'O** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:44 pm

mpharris36 wrote:if we get RJ Barrett...THjr can firmly plant his ass on the bench

Also if anyone else that we have or acquire proves to be a better option.

Observation around the league is that Year 3 is usually when these big contract guys stop getting unmerited playing time. He should be a bench spark by next year, imo.

Post #395 » by **Capn'O** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:47 pm

prophet_of_rage wrote:
fatalogic wrote:THJ isn’t bad, he’s just playing outside his role. You put Draymond Greene on this team and tell him to be the #1 option; I’m not sure the results are much better. THJ is a starting caliber 2 on at most teams up to the boarder line playoffs teams. They just need to reign him in a bit.

Exactly. Tim Hardaway is a starting level shooting guard in the NBA. He is very good. He is not a first option, but he is forced to play it for this team. Put two scorers ahead of him and everybody is cheering TIMMAY! Instead of TOMMY!

Generally agreed but I would put him as a sparkplug/6th man for a very good to great team.

So, yeah, he starts for us for a minute still.

Bklyn&company · Post #396 » by **Bklyn&company** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:56 pm

The team is fine... we won't win much at all this year... I still say 15 to 20 games... but we will be competitive.
I Like what I see defensively.... I want to see THJ grow more.. become more efficient... he should want to become or go to an All-Star level
Unlike most I honestly don't think he is far off. THJ has the potential too.

Disappointed in what I see in Frank... but like I said last year .... it's going to take 2 to 3 yrs before he starts to show us the goods. Still think he is not a full time NBA point guard... and will end up more like a Caris Levert type. He needs to start shooting the ball and attacking the basket.

Burke shot needs to start falling... he is getting good looks just not hitting them. I like what I see in Kanter... Hez is disappointing, he has potential but dammit man. SMH....Doston playing well, Trier and Knox need to both slow down on offense and focus on defense.... Baker I never liked... why is he on the team again? Can't shoot or dunk.... SMH! LOL

M. Robinson needs to be let loose.... seriously

Dammit Trade Lee and Thomas already....

Play M.Rob more...

Clyde_Style · Post #397 » by **Clyde_Style** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:58 pm

Capn'O wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:if we get RJ Barrett...THjr can firmly plant his ass on the bench

Also if anyone else that we have or acquire proves to be a better option.

Observation around the league is that Year 3 is usually when these big contract guys stop getting unmerited playing time. He should be a bench spark by next year, imo.

That would be great. Is that your observation or are there others who have said as much?

whocares1 · Post #398 » by **whocares1** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:03 pm

mpharris36 wrote:if we get RJ Barrett...THjr can firmly plant his ass on the bench

RJ is hopefully a 3. Romeo is a 2 but Barret would be a wing.

Post #399 » by **mpharris36** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:08 pm

whocares1 wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:if we get RJ Barrett...THjr can firmly plant his ass on the bench

RJ is hopefully a 3. Romeo is a 2 but Barret would be a wing.

RJ can play both. You can roll Frank/RJ/Knox/KP/Mitch

if you land Durant you could go Frank/RJ/Durant/Knox/KP

if you land Middelton you could go Frank/Middelton/RJ/Knox/KP

he would be interchangeable at the 2/3....he would just be a playmaking wing that could defend both spots.

F N 11 · Post #400 » by **F N 11** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:10 pm

whocares1 wrote:
K P 6 wrote:
whocares1 wrote:
Tim took 10 shots..

You don’t get it. U think Bc he took 10 shots in less minutes is progress?

Why you think he got less minutes? nvm man you switch sides all the time so I’ll see you on my side eventually.

U think he sat because he was being disciplined? Lol he sat Bc we were being blown out and he’s one of our “best players”. Idk what’s your side but I know what side I’m on.