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Post#261 » by awy » Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:42 pm

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Adelheid wrote:Its one thing to be a bad defender, but its another thing to have no defensive effort at all. I'm a bit worried about Knox. He is only 18 I know, but you cant have him spend his rookie years developing like this or else its gonna be much harder to discipline him when his habits are set.


The kid is 19 and has only played 6 games. You have to give him time. This is what i was saying before about these young players testing the patience of the fans and organization. For this to work these guys are going to take 2-3 years to develop minimum.


Rookies shouldn't have issues with effort and attitude/demeanor on the court. Rookies should be going out there to prove they belong in the league, that's why they're usually give 4 years. Knox isn't even showing that. I'd be okay with poor play, as long as effort is there. He gives nothing so far. I hope he's fixed, much sooner rather than later.

it's fair to give him a few games to work himself into shape after an injury. this is a wait and see area of concern though.
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Post#263 » by br7knicks » Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:50 pm

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The kid is 19 and has only played 6 games. You have to give him time. This is what i was saying before about these young players testing the patience of the fans and organization. For this to work these guys are going to take 2-3 years to develop minimum.


Rookies shouldn't have issues with effort and attitude/demeanor on the court. Rookies should be going out there to prove they belong in the league, that's why they're usually give 4 years. Knox isn't even showing that. I'd be okay with poor play, as long as effort is there. He gives nothing so far. I hope he's fixed, much sooner rather than later.

it's fair to give him a few games to work himself into shape after an injury. this is a wait and see area of concern though.


Definitely think that's more than fair. I just hope it doesn't get swept under the rug. Effort and mentality is important early in a career
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Post#264 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:54 pm

If the Knicks are going to continue to start Mitch as part of their plan for development, then it’s even more important to continue to start Frank at PG.

Now stop talking about Frank!


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Post#265 » by kane2021 » Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:59 pm

Here’s the thing. Mudiay is knocking on that door.


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Post#266 » by awy » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:01 pm

kane2021 wrote:Here’s the thing. Mudiay is knocking on that door.


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aint happening unless it's the door to getting cut.
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aint happening unless it's the door to getting cut.

Getting cut?


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Post#268 » by awy » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:09 pm

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kane2021 wrote:Here’s the thing. Mudiay is knocking on that door.


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aint happening unless it's the door to getting cut.

Getting cut?


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he's shown stretches of good play especially running the offense, but he'll need to show it for a long stretch given his long track record of being extremely bad. he's still making dumb decisions and can't finish so it's likely that he'll return to being very bad.
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Post#269 » by Jonathan starks » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:12 pm

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Knicks and Lakers are in totally different positions. Knicks need to develop their youth, while the Lakers need to win games. In fact, if the Lakers don't win enough games, Walton will be fired. If he weren't coaching with the threat of losing his job, I am sure he'd be trying to develop his youth more.

Meanwhile Fizdale is not coaching for his job. In fact his job requires that he develop his youth, in favor of chasing wins. If that's something you don't want to watch or be a part of, then by all means start rooting and following the Lakers.

Also of 5 players that the knicks draft last 2 years where would rank frank has asset out of these players. These are my ranking 1. Knox, 2 Robinson, 3 Dotson, 4.Tier and 5. Frank


Why is Dotson ahead of Trier?


Why is anyone ahead of Trier?
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Post#270 » by kane2021 » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:23 pm

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awy wrote:aint happening unless it's the door to getting cut.

Getting cut?


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he's shown stretches of good play especially running the offense, but he'll need to show it for a long stretch given his long track record of being extremely bad. he's still making dumb decisions and can't finish so it's likely that he'll return to being very bad.

I’m really perplexed. Getting cut? I’m seeing a young man moving up the rotation. He’s knocked Burke out. And he’s closer to getting cut than starting?


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Post#271 » by awy » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:25 pm

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kane2021 wrote:Getting cut?


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he's shown stretches of good play especially running the offense, but he'll need to show it for a long stretch given his long track record of being extremely bad. he's still making dumb decisions and can't finish so it's likely that he'll return to being very bad.

I’m really perplexed. Getting cut? I’m seeing a young man moving up the rotation. He’s knocked Burke out. And he’s closer to getting cut than starting?


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he's not getting cut anytime soon but probably still not going to be in the league eventually.
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Post#272 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:25 pm

What's the date everyone bashes Mitchell because he only impacts one side of the ball and why did we spend a high 2nd pick on that?

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Post#273 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:27 pm

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taj2133 wrote:Also of 5 players that the knicks draft last 2 years where would rank frank has asset out of these players. These are my ranking 1. Knox, 2 Robinson, 3 Dotson, 4.Tier and 5. Frank


Why is Dotson ahead of Trier?


Why is anyone ahead of Trier?


Why is THJr ahead of Trier in the rotation, is what I want to know.
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Post#274 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:28 pm

kane2021 wrote:Here’s the thing. Mudiay is knocking on that door.


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Players can improve after 3 or 4 years in the league? Say it ain't so. Not you, but I see a lot people claiming the book is closed on players even in their rookie year.
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Post#275 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:30 pm

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He just needed to keep doing it. I think he hit a jumper not that long after it, and then after that, bupkis.

At least he's sort of attempting more shots.
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Post#276 » by prophet_of_rage » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:31 pm

awy wrote:
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awy wrote:he's shown stretches of good play especially running the offense, but he'll need to show it for a long stretch given his long track record of being extremely bad. he's still making dumb decisions and can't finish so it's likely that he'll return to being very bad.

I’m really perplexed. Getting cut? I’m seeing a young man moving up the rotation. He’s knocked Burke out. And he’s closer to getting cut than starting?


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he's not getting cut anytime soon but probably still not going to be in the league eventually.


Every one will eventually be out of the league.



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Post#277 » by prophet_of_rage » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:33 pm

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Why is Dotson ahead of Trier?


Why is anyone ahead of Trier?


Why is THJr ahead of Trier in the rotation, is what I want to know.


Because he’s better and the book isn’t closed yet, right.


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Post#278 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:34 pm

Jakay wrote:THJ is fool's gold. Is he good? Yes. Can he be? No.

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Post#279 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:34 pm

cgmw wrote:
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Sark wrote:

Knicks and Lakers are in totally different positions. Knicks need to develop their youth, while the Lakers need to win games. In fact, if the Lakers don't win enough games, Walton will be fired. If he weren't coaching with the threat of losing his job, I am sure he'd be trying to develop his youth more.

Meanwhile Fizdale is not coaching for his job. In fact his job requires that he develop his youth, in favor of chasing wins. If that's something you don't want to watch or be a part of, then by all means start rooting and following the Lakers.

Also of 5 players that the knicks draft last 2 years where would rank frank has asset out of these players. These are my ranking 1. Knox, 2 Robinson, 3 Dotson, 4.Tier and 5. Frank

1) Knox
2) Frank
3) Mitch
4) Trier
5) Dot



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Post#280 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:36 pm

prophet_of_rage wrote:
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Why is anyone ahead of Trier?


Why is THJr ahead of Trier in the rotation, is what I want to know.


Because he’s better and the book isn’t closed yet, right.


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If it wasn't for THJr's $, Trier would be starting. And isn't THJr's book long closed as players like Frank seemed to be finished 4 years earlier in their career?

I'd say they all could improve. Except maybe THJr on defense. Let's not get crazy.
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