Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread

[GONYK]

is 26th in the league something to crow about ? there's only 30 teams.

26th in the league among all players. He'd actually be 21st among guards which is slightly worse than Bradley Beal, slightly better than Steph Curry. Make of it what you will. His scoring is top notch, his passing is not nealy as bad as advertised which is what I'm getting at considering the tomfoolery this offseason. He's an good piece at either guard spot. Not saying crow, saying thank God it's not in the realm of Gildrus-Alexander, Pat Beverly, Marcus Smart, Sexton, McCollum ... all players we'd gladly accept at the guard spot in NY.

His slash line last season was 41%/29%/57%. Over his career, it takes 14 shots and 3 FT's to get 15 points.

How is that top notch scoring?

[god shammgod]

is 26th in the league something to crow about ? there's only 30 teams.

26th in the league among all players. He'd actually be 21st among guards which is slightly worse than Bradley Beal, slightly better than Steph Curry. Make of it what you will. His scoring is top notch, his passing is not nealy as bad as advertised which is what I'm getting at considering the tomfoolery this offseason. He's an good piece at either guard spot. Not saying crow, saying thank God it's not in the realm of Gildrus-Alexander, Pat Beverly, Marcus Smart, Sexton, McCollum ... all players we'd gladly accept at the guard spot in NY.

steph is not really the point there though, draymond is. beal isn't either obviously. those guys are good off the ball. i'm not a big dennis fan. i play into it to f*ck with melo but i'm actually not really sold either. he can't really shoot or defend or pass exceptionally (you gotta give me that) but he needs the ball to drive. and with the ball in his hands he's not really setting up other people much. he's very limited.

[melo4three]

is 26th in the league something to crow about ? there's only 30 teams.

26th in the league among all players. He'd actually be 21st among guards which is slightly worse than Bradley Beal, slightly better than Steph Curry. Make of it what you will. His scoring is top notch, his passing is not nealy as bad as advertised which is what I'm getting at considering the tomfoolery this offseason. He's an good piece at either guard spot. Not saying crow, saying thank God it's not in the realm of Gildrus-Alexander, Pat Beverly, Marcus Smart, Sexton, McCollum ... all players we'd gladly accept at the guard spot in NY.

His slash line last season was 41%/29%/57%. Over his career, it takes 14 shots and 3 FT's to get 15 points.

How is that top notch scoring?

43/32/64 for the season, he was coming off an injury when he got here not to mention a talent deficient team that was 10-40. If you are worried about injuries that is fair, but if healthy there is no way he doesn't improve massively from the 21 game sample we got last year

[Knicksfan20]

His slash line last season was 41%/29%/57%. Over his career, it takes 14 shots and 3 FT's to get 15 points.

How is that top notch scoring?

43/32/64 for the season, he was FAT when he got here not to mention a talent deficient team that was 10-40. If you are worried about injuries that is fair, but if healthy there is no way he doesn't improve massively from the 21 game sample we got last year

FTFY

[GONYK]

26th in the league among all players. He'd actually be 21st among guards which is slightly worse than Bradley Beal, slightly better than Steph Curry. Make of it what you will. His scoring is top notch, his passing is not nealy as bad as advertised which is what I'm getting at considering the tomfoolery this offseason. He's an good piece at either guard spot. Not saying crow, saying thank God it's not in the realm of Gildrus-Alexander, Pat Beverly, Marcus Smart, Sexton, McCollum ... all players we'd gladly accept at the guard spot in NY.

His slash line last season was 41%/29%/57%. Over his career, it takes 14 shots and 3 FT's to get 15 points.

How is that top notch scoring?

43/32/64 for the season, he was coming off an injury when he got here not to mention a talent deficient team that was 10-40. If you are worried about injuries that is fair, but if healthy there is no way he doesn't improve massively from the 21 game sample we got last year

You're right. I misread the table.

But that season slash line is also terrible, as is his career slash. So it's not a 21 game sample.

So it still begs the question: How is he a top notch scorer?

[DOT]

His slash line last season was 41%/29%/57%. Over his career, it takes 14 shots and 3 FT's to get 15 points.

How is that top notch scoring?

43/32/64 for the season, he was coming off an injury when he got here not to mention a talent deficient team that was 10-40. If you are worried about injuries that is fair, but if healthy there is no way he doesn't improve massively from the 21 game sample we got last year

You're right. I misread the table.

But that season slash line is also terrible, as is his career slash. So it's not a 21 game sample.

So it still begs the question: How is he a top notch scorer?

He scored 13.6 ppg, same as Al Horford and Jerami Grant, on .502 TS%, which was good for 184th in the league, right between Austin Rivers and Terry Rozier

I like the kid, and I think he's gonna have a really good year, but to call him a top notch scorer especially right now is pretty inaccurate, to say the least

[Phish Tank]

DSJ's performance should really not be evaluated by his own statline. It'll be evaluated on how everyone else on the floor plays when he's on the floor with them.

But that can't be determined until the season starts. So we shall wait and see.....

[MadGrinch]

I dont get it though. Every video we saw this summer of him shooting the hitch was non existent.

Is that a old video?? Pre off season??

Go look at the vid where DSJ dropped 50 at the crawsover. There’s no “hitch”. He’ll be fine. I trust Keith Smart.

I hope so man because my excitement for this season was based on dsjr making that oladipo leap.

Oladipo made the leap from quality starter to star from his 4th season to his 5th

His last season in okc he was a plus defender who avg 16 points a game 49% from 2 , 36% from 3 , almost 5 boards and 4 assists a game

Dsjr is not there yet

[Knicksfan1992]

Biggest things to look for from DSJ this season as a scorer is can he be more efficient around the rim. A guy with his kind of athleticism should be more towards 60% instead of 55% like he was last year and then obviously his catch and shoot 3's need to get much better. If those things improve like i think they will, then Dennis will be much more efficient.

I'm obviously optimistic about him but I think we all should be because he's probably our best chance at having a backcourt star outside of maybe RJ.

[Obitron64]

im excited.

[melo4three]

His slash line last season was 41%/29%/57%. Over his career, it takes 14 shots and 3 FT's to get 15 points.

How is that top notch scoring?

43/32/64 for the season, he was coming off an injury when he got here not to mention a talent deficient team that was 10-40. If you are worried about injuries that is fair, but if healthy there is no way he doesn't improve massively from the 21 game sample we got last year

You're right. I misread the table.

But that season slash line is also terrible, as is his career slash. So it's not a 21 game sample.

So it still begs the question: How is he a top notch scorer?

I think what they were meaning was that his skillset and ability give him the potential to be top notch. Of which he has shown flashes of and he should make strides towards being an elite scorer this year.

[GONYK]

43/32/64 for the season, he was coming off an injury when he got here not to mention a talent deficient team that was 10-40. If you are worried about injuries that is fair, but if healthy there is no way he doesn't improve massively from the 21 game sample we got last year

You're right. I misread the table.

But that season slash line is also terrible, as is his career slash. So it's not a 21 game sample.

So it still begs the question: How is he a top notch scorer?

I think what they were meaning was that his skillset and ability give him the potential to be top notch. Of which he has shown flashes of and he should make strides towards being an elite scorer this year.

Maybe.

If that's the standard though, then the same can be said about Knox.

I think DSJ will be better this year, but he has to make a pretty big jump to be anything approaching elite.

[Kampuchea]

Dennis Smith Jr. May Have Fultzed His Shooting Form


https://deadspin.com/dennis-smith-jr-may-have-fultzed-his-shooting-form-1838363702

[Jalen Bluntson]

You're right. I misread the table.

But that season slash line is also terrible, as is his career slash. So it's not a 21 game sample.

So it still begs the question: How is he a top notch scorer?

I think what they were meaning was that his skillset and ability give him the potential to be top notch. Of which he has shown flashes of and he should make strides towards being an elite scorer this year.

Maybe.

If that's the standard though, then the same can be said about Knox.

I think DSJ will be better this year, but he has to make a pretty big jump to be anything approaching elite.

I'm hoping for a better than DAR trajectory. If that shot we see in videos is for real...and he ups his FT %....I'll be happy.

[melo4three]

You're right. I misread the table.

But that season slash line is also terrible, as is his career slash. So it's not a 21 game sample.

So it still begs the question: How is he a top notch scorer?

I think what they were meaning was that his skillset and ability give him the potential to be top notch. Of which he has shown flashes of and he should make strides towards being an elite scorer this year.

Maybe.

If that's the standard though, then the same can be said about Knox.

I think DSJ will be better this year, but he has to make a pretty big jump to be anything approaching elite.

I don't think so a couple percent a couple percent there with more volume would be approaching elite at the very least

say 18 and 7 on 44/35/71, that is basically just the efficiency he was putting up last year in dallas with more volume.

[god shammgod]

team rj & trier lol

[Chanel Bomber]

team rj & trier lol

Trier gets the most slept-on award.

[GONYK]

team rj & trier lol

Trier gets the most slept-on award.

Is he slept on?

I feel like people are very effusive about what he brings in his role.

[Chanel Bomber]

team rj & trier lol

Trier gets the most slept-on award.

Is he slept on?

I feel like people are very effusive about what he brings in his role.

Precisely, confining Trier in the 6th man role which seems to be the consensus here might be a mistake. What if he's too good to stay in "his role"? If he shows he can be a more willing passer, he could and should compete for a spot in the starting lineup and who knows even become a star in this league. He's the only shot creator on our roster who had an above-average TS% last season besides Randle. I could be wrong but I just think we're underselling his upside.

[Clyde_Style]

Trier gets the most slept-on award.

Is he slept on?

I feel like people are very effusive about what he brings in his role.

Precisely, confining Trier in the 6th man role which seems to be the consensus here might be a mistake. What if he's too good to stay in "his role"? If he shows he can be a more willing passer, he could and should compete for a spot in the starting lineup and who knows even become a star in this league. He's the only shot creator on our roster who had an above-average TS% last season besides Randle. I could be wrong but I just think we're underselling his upside.

If Frank and Trier end up as our starting backcourt we'll see a few heads here explode