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Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:42 pm
by BKlutch
F N 11 wrote:Knicks gunna have a breakout year imo. We have a team full of slept on talent. The difference is they all want to get better.

Not just that - this talent is mostly very young so has a real chance to keep growing normally. Those who breakout will go beyond the normal growth of the kiddies. This is exciting.

Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:13 pm
by TheGreenArrow
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CANT **** WAIT!!!!!

Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:22 am
by 3toheadmelo
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Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:34 pm
by KingDavid
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This looks like before the acl tear?

Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:55 pm
by 3toheadmelo
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This looks like before the acl tear?

Yeah I think it was before

Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:00 pm
by NYKAL
Jeff Van Gully wrote:
BKAY wrote:As a longtime DSJ skeptic, I have to admit he has been putting in the work you want to see in the off season. Its at the point, where not a week has gone by without some clip recently. Working on his shot and hopefully is stronger on defense. If those two things happen, he is shaping up to be a solid starting pg for us.


lack of clips doesn't mean you're not working. but i feel you. DSJ is showing us the effort, and i've got nothing but respect for that. it was a concern of mine in the pre-draft with him. remained a concern in DAL. it's go time for him and many young players who've gotten a season or three under their belts.

very much looking forward to how it looks on the court.


I think he has extra motivating after being underappreciated in Dallas and then being traded to the team he actually wants to play for. I think he's determined to succeed. I was never a big DSJ fan but, I try not to judge too harsh until they've reached their 3rd year. A surprising amount of players actually regress in year 2 but, then break out in year 3.

Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:19 pm
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Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:57 pm
by thebuzzardman
I can't wait until the excellence of DSJr leads us to 30 wins.

Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:14 pm
by BBALLER4FR
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I sure hope DSJr is not looking to replicate Baron Davis. Not that Davis wasn't one of the most dynamic PG's in the game but I don't feel like emulating this would be a benefit to the team. If he believes he has the skill set to be Baron, he'd be best served to shoot for some hybrid of Baron Davis and Chris Paul. Dial back on the Baron flash and develop more of that CP3 floor general.

Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:12 pm
by 3toheadmelo
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I sure hope DSJr is not looking to replicate Baron Davis. Not that Davis wasn't one of the most dynamic PG's in the game but I don't feel like emulating this would be a benefit to the team. If he believes he has the skill set to be Baron, he'd be best served to shoot for some hybrid of Baron Davis and Chris Paul. Dial back on the Baron flash and develop more of that CP3 floor general.

Yeah I feel you on that. A hybrid of those players would be pretty awesome. He does look up to both of them and they actually have been mentoring him over the past couple of years so the influence is there.

Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:33 pm
by NYKAL
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I'd be exstatic if he reached BD's level (without BD's fragile body)

Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:08 pm
by Jeff Van Gully
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I'd be exstatic if he reached BD's level (without BD's fragile body)


i believe in the draft thread some of us mentioned baron davis as a ceiling comparison for junior.

Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:49 pm
by TheScout31
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I'd be exstatic if he reached BD's level (without BD's fragile body)


i believe in the draft thread some of us mentioned baron davis as a ceiling comparison for junior.


Many did, and I thought it was an odd one. Athletically, yah, they're a match. Both definitely more scoring oriented PGs (with poor shot selection and efficiency), but Davis' vision was far superior to Smith's. DSJr is a fine passer, but Davis had legit elite vision.

Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread

Posted: Sun Sep 1, 2019 2:15 am
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Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread

Posted: Sun Sep 1, 2019 7:40 am
by NYKinMIA
If this kid is as committed as he's led us to believe this off-season. Special, imo.

Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread

Posted: Sun Sep 1, 2019 9:16 pm
by Jeff Van Gully
TheScout31 wrote:
Jeff Van Gully wrote:
NYKAL wrote:

I'd be exstatic if he reached BD's level (without BD's fragile body)


i believe in the draft thread some of us mentioned baron davis as a ceiling comparison for junior.


Many did, and I thought it was an odd one. Athletically, yah, they're a match. Both definitely more scoring oriented PGs (with poor shot selection and efficiency), but Davis' vision was far superior to Smith's. DSJr is a fine passer, but Davis had legit elite vision.


couldn't agree more. and while baron took a lot of bad shots, he came into the NBA with better offensive skills.

Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 2, 2019 7:56 pm
by moocow007
Smith's problem hasn't ever been talent or athleticism. It's been his mental makeup (not game cause he actually does know what to do on the court).

His rep is not that of a hard working team first player. He hasn't always took care of himself physically which may have contributed to his up and down performances and health issues. And he does have that me first rep that clashed in Dallas with coach and teammates (true or not, that's the rep so you have to believe there's some truth in that).

It's a contributing factor into why he was drafted 9th instead of in the top 3. From a pure talent and tools standpoint many scouts said he was a clear top 2-3 talent (possibly the top talent).

So it's good to see that conditioning is something he's been taking a lot of time working on and being serious about. It's something that he's not really shown great interest in in the past. Does it guarantee anything? No. But it's a good sign.

Just like with Frank, this is a potential make or break season for Junior.

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Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 2, 2019 8:02 pm
by Are We Ther Yet
moocow007 wrote:Smith's problem hasn't ever been talent or athleticism. It's been his mental game.

His rep is not that of a hard working team first player. He hasn't always took care of himself physically which may have contributed to his up and down performances and health issues. And he does have that me first rep that clashed in Dallas with coach and teammates (true or not, that's the rep so you have to believe there's some truth in that).

It's a contributing factor into why he was drafted 9th instead of in the top 3. From a pure talent and tools standpoint many scouts said he was a clear top 2-3 talent.

So it's good to see that conditioning is something he's been taking a lot of time working on and being serious about. It's something that he's not really shown great interest in in the past. Does it guarantee anything? No. But it's a good sign.

Just like with Frank, this is a potential make or break season for Junior.

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It's been reported that his knee surgery is why he dropped.

Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 2, 2019 8:18 pm
by moocow007
Are We Ther Yet wrote:
moocow007 wrote:Smith's problem hasn't ever been talent or athleticism. It's been his mental game.

His rep is not that of a hard working team first player. He hasn't always took care of himself physically which may have contributed to his up and down performances and health issues. And he does have that me first rep that clashed in Dallas with coach and teammates (true or not, that's the rep so you have to believe there's some truth in that).

It's a contributing factor into why he was drafted 9th instead of in the top 3. From a pure talent and tools standpoint many scouts said he was a clear top 2-3 talent.

So it's good to see that conditioning is something he's been taking a lot of time working on and being serious about. It's something that he's not really shown great interest in in the past. Does it guarantee anything? No. But it's a good sign.

Just like with Frank, this is a potential make or break season for Junior.

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It's been reported that his knee surgery is why he dropped.
That wasn't the reason he dropped all the way to 9 is the point. Teams were reportedly scared away because of concerns about his mental makeup which included his work ethic. A top 3 talent (again some felt he was the top talent) wouldn't drop to 9 even with the knee issues.

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Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 2, 2019 8:38 pm
by Are We Ther Yet
moocow007 wrote:
Are We Ther Yet wrote:
moocow007 wrote:Smith's problem hasn't ever been talent or athleticism. It's been his mental game.

His rep is not that of a hard working team first player. He hasn't always took care of himself physically which may have contributed to his up and down performances and health issues. And he does have that me first rep that clashed in Dallas with coach and teammates (true or not, that's the rep so you have to believe there's some truth in that).

It's a contributing factor into why he was drafted 9th instead of in the top 3. From a pure talent and tools standpoint many scouts said he was a clear top 2-3 talent.

So it's good to see that conditioning is something he's been taking a lot of time working on and being serious about. It's something that he's not really shown great interest in in the past. Does it guarantee anything? No. But it's a good sign.

Just like with Frank, this is a potential make or break season for Junior.

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It's been reported that his knee surgery is why he dropped.
That wasn't the reason he dropped all the way to 9 is the point. Teams were reportedly scared away because of concerns about his mental makeup which included his work ethic. A top 3 talent (again some felt he was the top talent) wouldn't drop to 9 even with the knee issues.

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Well...I would think ACL surgery has a huge impact on things. Most likely...bigger impact than any work ethic rumors. How can a top 2-3 talent have bad work ethic.