Official 2019 Yankees Thread

[j4remi]

Have not cared for baseball for years so im out the loop on contract talks, but 400? .

Yeah thats crazy. I was being somewhat funny, and they was talking 400 million.

No joke, one of these guys turned down 300 million to try and fish for the same or more from a team he'd rather rock with:
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25205173/bryce-harper-turned-10-year-300m-offer-nats

To be fair though, it does look like the contract values have finally topped out.

[JXL]

Have fun not winning a ring for 5 years Manny.

[Fury]

Guys, the padres are gonna be good. They have a great farm system.

[Juco24]

No man's worth that

[Rich Rane]

Wonder how much Arenado will ask for now if he makes it to free agency.

[BKlutch]

Manny got a 10 year contract. H'es 26 and he'll be great until about age 32 or 33. Third base requires a lot of agility. The last 3-4 years of his contract are going to really hurt the team. So glad it's not us!

[thebuzzardman]

Guys, the padres are gonna be good. They have a great farm system.

And every single guy in the farm system will pan out or be traded for a top notch player, right?

I mean, the Yankees had the top farm system until some guys were promoted, and not every guy panned out, nor was every guy traded for a positive return.

It's not like they are going to be abysmal, and the Yanks are proof (among other teams) that a good farm can lead to a decent turnaround pretty quickly, but on the other hand, no guarantees either.

[Rich Rane]

Manny got a 10 year contract. H'es 26 and he'll be great until about age 32 or 33. Third base requires a lot of agility. The last 3-4 years of his contract are going to really hurt the team. So glad it's not us!

Think he'll be playing short for the Padres.

[GEOLINK]

Padres/White Sox are the teams who will regret signing either one because it'll tie too much of their payroll and they'll likely will want to trade them 2 years down the road.

10/300? No thank you.

[GEOLINK]

Yankees overthought this... SHould have given Manny 7/245 and given him the same opt out or better than the Padres did. I'm not sold on Andujar and now we have to bank on a LeMahieu/old man Tulo combo to hold it down until Didi comes back? yuck...

Yankees weren't going to overspend just like the rest of the league with brains weren't.

Padres blinked.

[Knicksfan1992]

Yankees overthought this... SHould have given Manny 7/245 and given him the same opt out or better than the Padres did. I'm not sold on Andujar and now we have to bank on a LeMahieu/old man Tulo combo to hold it down until Didi comes back? yuck...

Yankees weren't going to overspend just like the rest of the league with brains weren't.

Padres blinked.

Nah Yankees had the team in place to where they can overspend and Hank and Hal decided to penny pinch...It's a joke that a team that grosses as much money as the Bombers do let the Padres get a marquee guy at a young age, who fit perfectly in our lineup BTW, by outbidding them.

This is different than Ells, Cano, McCan etc. Machado is 26. That deal will only be bad for the last 2-3 years AT MOST...

The Padres didn't blink. They punked the rest of the league who were too stubborn and jaded to give a top tier player big money.

Good for them. Bad for us IMO

[GEOLINK]

Yankees overthought this... SHould have given Manny 7/245 and given him the same opt out or better than the Padres did. I'm not sold on Andujar and now we have to bank on a LeMahieu/old man Tulo combo to hold it down until Didi comes back? yuck...

Yankees weren't going to overspend just like the rest of the league with brains weren't.

Padres blinked.

Nah Yankees had the team in place to where they can overspend and Hank and Hal decided to penny pinch...It's a joke that a team that grosses as much money as the Bombers do let the Padres get a marquee guy at a young age, who fit perfectly in our lineup BTW, by outbidding them.

This is different than Ells, Cano, McCan etc. Machado is 26. That deal will only be bad for the last 2-3 years AT MOST...

The Padres didn't blink. They punked the rest of the league who were too stubborn and jaded to give a top tier player big money.

Good for them. Bad for us IMO

If the Yankees are cheap what do you call the Red Sox and Cubs?

Phillies owner was gonna spend crazy money. Where’s that been?

[Knicksfan1992]

Yankees weren't going to overspend just like the rest of the league with brains weren't.

Padres blinked.

Nah Yankees had the team in place to where they can overspend and Hank and Hal decided to penny pinch...It's a joke that a team that grosses as much money as the Bombers do let the Padres get a marquee guy at a young age, who fit perfectly in our lineup BTW, by outbidding them.

This is different than Ells, Cano, McCan etc. Machado is 26. That deal will only be bad for the last 2-3 years AT MOST...

The Padres didn't blink. They punked the rest of the league who were too stubborn and jaded to give a top tier player big money.

Good for them. Bad for us IMO

If the Yankees are cheap what do you call the Red Sox and Cubs?

Red Sox and Cubs don't gross nearly as much money as the Yankees do. Also, the Red Sox and Cubs have both won titles more recently than the Yankees have so it's a little more understandable that they aren't willing to spend.

This is Hank and Hal penny pinching period.

[IllmaticHandler]

Yankees overthought this... SHould have given Manny 7/245 and given him the same opt out or better than the Padres did. I'm not sold on Andujar and now we have to bank on a LeMahieu/old man Tulo combo to hold it down until Didi comes back? yuck...

Yankees weren't going to overspend just like the rest of the league with brains weren't.

Padres blinked.

Nah Yankees had the team in place to where they can overspend and Hank and Hal decided to penny pinch...It's a joke that a team that grosses as much money as the Bombers do let the Padres get a marquee guy at a young age, who fit perfectly in our lineup BTW, by outbidding them.

This is different than Ells, Cano, McCan etc. Machado is 26. That deal will only be bad for the last 2-3 years AT MOST...

The Padres didn't blink. They punked the rest of the league who were too stubborn and jaded to give a top tier player big money.

Good for them. Bad for us IMO

He disagrees with you fam....

[Knicksfan1992]

Look the Yankees are going to have a good team next year regardless. They had a chance to make that team dominant this offseason and so far have balked... I think it's somewhat inexcusable to do that considering well multiple factors...

A) They're the Yankees and make more money than any other team and it's not close according to a quick google search that anyone here can do. Money should not be an issue (obviously within reason) but given Machado's age, our team needs, and the relationships the guy has with current members of the team it's damn near indefensible to me that they wouldn't splurge the cash for him when they can cover his and Stanton's entire deal with 1 year of revenue... Comparing them to the Red Sox, Cubs, and Phillies is faulty because they still make so much more money than those franchises and have had a lower payroll than 2 of them for a few years now.
People pay more money to see the Yankees and it's a slap in the face to the fans to let a marquee free agent, who by all indications, wanted to come here walk because he was too expensive... If he wasn't too expensive for the Padres, then he definitely wasn't too expensive for the Yankees...

B) Aaron Judge, Sanchez, and Severino are quickly approaching their pay days. The time to strike was now to go all in. I liken it to what the Sixers did with getting Harris. You strike when you can We don't know what the future will be, but we know this team is good enough to compete right now and not getting Harper or Machado this year will be doing those guys a disservice.

C) The Yankees don't have Didi until August. We are now relying on a guy who has terrible splits outside of the most hitter friendly park in the league, another washed up has been who can't stay healthy, and a young guy who has some of the worst defensive metrics in baseball and was so bad that he had to be taken out of important games late and has zero discipline at the plate to cover the most important infield positions on the diamond.

I like Cashman. I think he's the greatest GM in history, if we're being completely honest with ourselves, but this was a major blunder on the Yankees organization moreso than any others.

[GEOLINK]

Nah Yankees had the team in place to where they can overspend and Hank and Hal decided to penny pinch...It's a joke that a team that grosses as much money as the Bombers do let the Padres get a marquee guy at a young age, who fit perfectly in our lineup BTW, by outbidding them.

This is different than Ells, Cano, McCan etc. Machado is 26. That deal will only be bad for the last 2-3 years AT MOST...

The Padres didn't blink. They punked the rest of the league who were too stubborn and jaded to give a top tier player big money.

Good for them. Bad for us IMO

If the Yankees are cheap what do you call the Red Sox and Cubs?

Red Sox and Cubs don't gross nearly as much money as the Yankees do. Also, the Red Sox and Cubs have both won titles more recently than the Yankees have so it's a little more understandable that they aren't willing to spend.

This is Hank and Hal penny pinching period.

We'll agree to disagree because I can see this convo going in a circle.

IMO The Yankees are playing it smart.

When this thing took till the middle of February told you something is up.

Yankees and others must've known for months this was the offer Manny's team was looking for and no one was going to sniff at it.

[Papi_swav]

Yankees overthought this... SHould have given Manny 7/245 and given him the same opt out or better than the Padres did. I'm not sold on Andujar and now we have to bank on a LeMahieu/old man Tulo combo to hold it down until Didi comes back? yuck...

Don't worry Arenado will be there next year who is a better all around player anyway and he won't get no 10 year deal.

[KnicksGadfly]

Yankees overthought this... SHould have given Manny 7/245 and given him the same opt out or better than the Padres did. I'm not sold on Andujar and now we have to bank on a LeMahieu/old man Tulo combo to hold it down until Didi comes back? yuck...

Don't worry Arenado will be there next year who is a better all around player anyway and he won't get no 10 year deal.

Nah don't kid ourselves. Ownership cheap as ****. We'll sign a minimum player, hope he gets double value and content ourselves with the wildcard.

Also...when does Machado's contract end again? Exactly. Age 36, 37? This ain't a Robinson Cano contract. Didn't know the Wilpons bought the Yankees. Yea, our salary cap is tied up in guys like Ellsbury. But I don't give a **** when I consider the money they make, the fact they went cheap in previous years, baseball CBA and the Red Sox kicking our ass on our turf.

Edit:
1. No draft pick compensation loss
2. No salary hard cap like the NBA that prevents you from signing players
3. Not the traditional age 30 FA
4. No prospect coming up that's on Machado's level

This is not a win-now move for a team that has a history of aiming to dominate and create dynasties, has a young core locked in place, and has gotten its ass kicked by the Red Sox recently. The Yankees brand is 27 rings. That's what we do.

[BKlutch]

Manny got a 10 year contract. H'es 26 and he'll be great until about age 32 or 33. Third base requires a lot of agility. The last 3-4 years of his contract are going to really hurt the team. So glad it's not us!

Think he'll be playing short for the Padres.

Maybe when he's 32 he'll be playing OF or 1B

[Papi_swav]

Yankees overthought this... SHould have given Manny 7/245 and given him the same opt out or better than the Padres did. I'm not sold on Andujar and now we have to bank on a LeMahieu/old man Tulo combo to hold it down until Didi comes back? yuck...

Don't worry Arenado will be there next year who is a better all around player anyway and he won't get no 10 year deal.

Nah don't kid ourselves. Ownership cheap as ****. We'll sign a minimum player, hope he gets double value and content ourselves with the wildcard.

Also...when does Machado's contract end again? Exactly. Age 36, 37? This ain't a Robinson Cano contract. Didn't know the Wilpons bought the Yankees. Yea, our salary cap is tied up in guys like Ellsbury. But I don't give a **** when I consider the money they make, the fact they went cheap in previous years, baseball CBA and the Red Sox kicking our ass on our turf.

Edit:
1. No draft pick compensation loss
2. No salary hard cap like the NBA that prevents you from signing players
3. Not the traditional age 30 FA
4. No prospect coming up that's on Machado's level

This is not a win-now move for a team that has a history of aiming to dominate and create dynasties, has a young core locked in place, and has gotten its ass kicked by the Red Sox recently. The Yankees brand is 27 rings. That's what we do.

Haven't ya'll learned already? Buying championships don't work. We've bought the top guys at every position (except Beltran) through the whole 2000s and we've only got 1 chip in 2009 while we sucked at the end of those contracts (Arod, Tex, Ells etc.) .

Yea the MLB has no cap, but NOBODY wants to pay crazy amount of taxes. Why do you think the richest ppl on earth avoid taxes even though they have millions to billions. It just is what it is and it will always be this way, the rich will avoid tax at all costs.

I believe Andujar's offense can match Machado's offense, it just his defense that sucks. Arenado is a better player than Machado IMO and we can get him next year more than likely and he won't cost 300M or 10 years. We have enough offense, we need great outstanding pitching to win.