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all praise be to the gawd money mitch. carry on.

Is there anyone who would still trade him without hesitation for AD, if we sign KD & Irving?

dakomish23 wrote:Is there anyone who would still trade him without hesitation for AD, if we sign KD & Irving?

Yes, anyone NOT a Knicks fan.

dakomish23 wrote:Is there anyone who would still trade him without hesitation for AD, if we sign KD & Irving?

Yes. Me. In a heartbeat. Goodbye nice 2nd round pick, hello future HOF'er.

No more prospect hugging around here. He rebounds well, blocks shots really well. AD does everything well. Goodbye.

Mitch unfortunately will look awesome in a Pelicans jersey with local boy returns to save franchise narrative.

We'll be rooting for you from afar Mitch!

LeStud wrote:

dakomish23 wrote:Is there anyone who would still trade him without hesitation for AD, if we sign KD & Irving?

Yes, anyone NOT a Knicks fan.

Why does it mean you’re not a Knicks fan b/c someone feels AD is the right move even if it costs you Mitch?

Since when is fandom tied to transactions? We all have different opinions on what we think the team should do.

I wanted no part of the THJ signing, playing the vets over the kids and didn’t want W’s last season. Most were on board. Does that mean I’m not a Knicks fan?

I was worried when he started out the year with those nagging injuries. Glad he's healthy and tearing **** up.

Part of me feels, New Orleans begins to include Robinson and a top 3 pick as the focal point, and if not they may not be interested

I've said this numerous times... there's NO WAY I'd trade a decent starting 5 in DSJ/Frank/Money Mitch/Knox/Zion? for any one player. And add another First round pick??? Think about it... that's 5 lotto picks. With that said, to make salaries match - we'd have to send the Pels Zion? Add an unprotected 1st, DSJ/Knox/Frank and if that's not enough - kick rocks! Simply put, I'm not including Money Mitch

Again, you don’t trade Mitch unless AD signs an extension immediately. No waiting for the off season.

i wouldn't trade him without exploring his upside more fully. what can he do offensively etc.

No way we trade Mitch...he's more of a unicorn than KP.

dakomish23 wrote:

LeStud wrote:

dakomish23 wrote:Is there anyone who would still trade him without hesitation for AD, if we sign KD & Irving?

Yes, anyone NOT a Knicks fan.

Why does it mean you’re not a Knicks fan b/c someone feels AD is the right move even if it costs you Mitch?

Since when is fandom tied to transactions? We all have different opinions on what we think the team should do.

I wanted no part of the THJ signing, playing the vets over the kids and didn’t want W’s last season. Most were on board. Does that mean I’m not a Knicks fan?

There's a huge connection between fandom and willingness to trade a player. You're asking a Knicks group if they'd trade the next DPOY. Of course they won't and proof is in responses, so your question is better posed for a forum of non Knicks fans to get a more impartial take, hence my original answer.

LeStud wrote:

dakomish23 wrote:

LeStud wrote:Yes, anyone NOT a Knicks fan.

Why does it mean you’re not a Knicks fan b/c someone feels AD is the right move even if it costs you Mitch?

Since when is fandom tied to transactions? We all have different opinions on what we think the team should do.

I wanted no part of the THJ signing, playing the vets over the kids and didn’t want W’s last season. Most were on board. Does that mean I’m not a Knicks fan?

There's a huge connection between fandom and willingness to trade a player. You're asking a Knicks group if they'd trade the next DPOY. Of course they won't and proof is in responses, so your question is better posed for a forum of non Knicks fans to get a more impartial take, hence my original answer.

Mitch will win more than one DPOY when its all said and done. AD is NOT a dog- Mitch is.
Mitch brings much more value when you factor in salary, what you dont have to give up by NOT trading for AD,
he's better defensively TODAY and he doesn't even know what he's doing;
smdh (many of you dont understand the significance of that),
he's already shown more leadership than AD has in his first year in the league,
the only thing that AD may always have over him is offensive ability and offensive production but again-
step away from AD's numbers and put the entire picture in context.
Some of you don't realize you have to strongly consider and properly manage/balance the salary cap- if done wrong
it will hamper you in the future...
Not to mention, AD is always injured- in his previous 2 seasons he only had two years where he finished with 75 games- he other 4 years: 64,67,68,61

So NO!- im not "impartial" because he's a knick- i'm just a
"strategist" and have a deep understanding and respect for value...

LeStud wrote:

dakomish23 wrote:

LeStud wrote:Yes, anyone NOT a Knicks fan.

Why does it mean you’re not a Knicks fan b/c someone feels AD is the right move even if it costs you Mitch?

Since when is fandom tied to transactions? We all have different opinions on what we think the team should do.

I wanted no part of the THJ signing, playing the vets over the kids and didn’t want W’s last season. Most were on board. Does that mean I’m not a Knicks fan?

There's a huge connection between fandom and willingness to trade a player. You're asking a Knicks group if they'd trade the next DPOY. Of course they won't and proof is in responses, so your question is better posed for a forum of non Knicks fans to get a more impartial take, hence my original answer.

I thought you were saying if you’re willing to trade Mitch, that means you’re not a Knicks fan. Apologies.

Context wrote:

LeStud wrote:

dakomish23 wrote:
Why does it mean you’re not a Knicks fan b/c someone feels AD is the right move even if it costs you Mitch?

Since when is fandom tied to transactions? We all have different opinions on what we think the team should do.

I wanted no part of the THJ signing, playing the vets over the kids and didn’t want W’s last season. Most were on board. Does that mean I’m not a Knicks fan?

There's a huge connection between fandom and willingness to trade a player. You're asking a Knicks group if they'd trade the next DPOY. Of course they won't and proof is in responses, so your question is better posed for a forum of non Knicks fans to get a more impartial take, hence my original answer.

Mitch will win more than one DPOY when its all said and done. AD is NOT a dog- Mitch is.
Mitch brings much more value when you factor in salary, what you dont have to give up by NOT trading for AD,
he's better defensively TODAY and he doesn't even know what he's doing;
smdh (many of you dont understand the significance of that),
he's already shown more leadership than AD has in his first year in the league,
the only thing that AD may always have over him is offensive ability and offensive production but again-
step away from AD's numbers and put the entire picture in context.
Some of you don't realize you have to strongly consider and properly manage/balance the salary cap- if done wrong
it will hamper you in the future...
Not to mention, AD is always injured- in his previous 2 seasons he only had two years where he finished with 75 games- he other 4 years: 64,67,68,61

So NO!- im not "impartial" because he's a knick- i'm just a
"strategist" and have a deep understanding and respect for value...

Talk about fandom...

Exhibit A. Fan claims Dot is the Knicks' next Ray Allen and expects his "impartial" hot take to be taken seriously

dakomish23 wrote:Is there anyone who would still trade him without hesitation for AD, if we sign KD & Irving?

I don't think it's without hesitation but AD is so underrated here it's kind of absurd.

Knicksfan1992 wrote:

dakomish23 wrote:Is there anyone who would still trade him without hesitation for AD, if we sign KD & Irving?

I don't think it's without hesitation but AD is so underrated here it's kind of absurd.

It's tough. I would include Mitch in an AD package but I wouldn't be sure it was the right move. It's more an indictment on today's NBA than AD but something is wrong when AD & Jrue + their supporting cast can't even make the playoffs. He's won one playoff series in his career and that was largely because Jrue and Rondo destroyed Lillard and McCollum (as great as AD was in that series). AD as an individual player is fantastic but I'm not sure he's what you need in today's NBA. That said, if he's joining KD and Kyrie then it's a whole other animal. Sign me up.

BadNewsBarnes wrote:No way we trade Mitch...he's more of a unicorn than KP.

I kind of agree. But if they need AD and things are heating up, I'm not confident he's retained.