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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1861 » by DaT WaVeY RiCaN » Thu Aug 8, 2019 6:08 pm

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Honestly I think that floor is being able to finish, get to the line, hit free throws.
It kind of reminds me of Simmons. Ppl want him to develop a shot but I would feel uncomfortable with him shooting on the perimeter because it is so unnatural.

He actually can knock them down unlike Simmons (0-17 in his nba career)

Frank just isnt a natural born scorer and thats okay as long as he improves.

Shooting splits per month last year:

39%
15%
37%
31%

Last year:

38%
21%
38%
35%
33%
29%
35%

He can shoot, he's just super inconsistent. Like, if you take out the one month he shot 15% last year, he's at like 34, 35% the rest of the year

Why we comparing Frank to Ben Simmons tho?
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1862 » by bearadonisdna » Thu Aug 8, 2019 6:36 pm

DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:
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DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:He actually can knock them down unlike Simmons (0-17 in his nba career)

Frank just isnt a natural born scorer and thats okay as long as he improves.

Shooting splits per month last year:

39%
15%
37%
31%

Last year:

38%
21%
38%
35%
33%
29%
35%

He can shoot, he's just super inconsistent. Like, if you take out the one month he shot 15% last year, he's at like 34, 35% the rest of the year

Why we comparing Frank to Ben Simmons tho?


It was my comparison.
The are similar because of glaring offensive deficiencies albeit in different areas.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1863 » by KnicksGod » Thu Aug 8, 2019 6:38 pm

I'd say it's a very noticeable difference in his dribble. From a C dribbler to a B+.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1864 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Aug 9, 2019 4:35 am

Pretty good video.

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Post#1865 » by bearadonisdna » Fri Aug 9, 2019 4:54 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:Pretty good video.



Yeah for sure, just watched it the other night.
It has a summary of franks knicks career as well as commentary from a French knicks podcaster.

Overall they like Frank but the knicks terry and trey is worried about his opportunities.
Offensively to say he is a work in progress is an understatement.

If he is the BEST perimeter defender on the team, he should find chances imo.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1866 » by DaT WaVeY RiCaN » Fri Aug 9, 2019 4:57 pm

Whens next France game?
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1867 » by KnicksGod » Fri Aug 9, 2019 5:23 pm

On a team that has not defended well, you just make the time for Frank and that’s that. Should be a given.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1868 » by GONYK » Fri Aug 9, 2019 5:28 pm

KnicksGod wrote:On a team that has not defended well, you just make the time for Frank and that’s that. Should be a given.


Frank at point of attack + an elite rim protector = top 10 defense in the NBA.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1869 » by j4remi » Fri Aug 9, 2019 5:36 pm

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KnicksGod wrote:On a team that has not defended well, you just make the time for Frank and that’s that. Should be a given.


Frank at point of attack + an elite rim protector = top 10 defense in the NBA.


The crazy part being they'll both be 21 for the majority of this season and I'd bet on that holding true assuming they stay healthy.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1870 » by GONYK » Fri Aug 9, 2019 5:38 pm

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KnicksGod wrote:On a team that has not defended well, you just make the time for Frank and that’s that. Should be a given.


Frank at point of attack + an elite rim protector = top 10 defense in the NBA.


The crazy part being they'll both be 21 for the majority of this season and I'd bet on that holding true assuming they stay healthy.


Play Frank wherever you want on offense, but we have a lot better chance of winning if he's sharing minutes with Mitch for the majority of the game while guarding the 1.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1871 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Aug 9, 2019 5:52 pm

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HarthorneWingo wrote:Pretty good video.



Yeah for sure, just watched it the other night.
It has a summary of franks knicks career as well as commentary from a French knicks podcaster.

Overall they like Frank but the knicks terry and trey is worried about his opportunities.
Offensively to say he is a work in progress is an understatement.

If he is the BEST perimeter defender on the team, he should find chances imo.


But if you look at the videos from his French league games and some of the video highlights of him from the beginning of his rookie season, he's much more confident shooting the ball from long range. Fizdale fcked up Frank's head with all that Mudiay talk. I thought Fizdale was going to have a hands-free orgasm when he said all that stuff about getting Mudiay right during the press conference.

I've decided that Fizdale is on my bad side to start the season. Prove me wrong or else you gone.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1872 » by CharlesOakley » Fri Aug 9, 2019 5:58 pm

Fizzdale is:

1. classic Knicks fake hustle
2. master tank commander

I think #1 is a lot more likely.
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Post#1873 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Aug 9, 2019 6:01 pm

Fiz going to be the next in long line of Knick coaches to get fired within 2.5 years.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1874 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Aug 9, 2019 6:02 pm

CharlesOakley wrote:Fizzdale is:

1. classic Knicks fake hustle
2. master tank commander

I think #1 is a lot more likely.


Yep. His only accomplishment is that licked Lebron's sphincter well while at Miami.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1875 » by KnicksGod » Fri Aug 9, 2019 6:02 pm

I still think his jumper will be good. The dribble improvement is really interesting because at his height and with his good vision, it is a weapon.

Jumper can take time but nothing broken there. Plus he's shown some good pullup moves and footwork is decent even.

I still am a big believer in him. Maybe I was wrong about him playing point but that doesn't much matter. Maybe he could be a version of Scottie Pippen type of player (okay poor man's).
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1876 » by bearadonisdna » Fri Aug 9, 2019 6:07 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
bearadonisdna wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Pretty good video.



Yeah for sure, just watched it the other night.
It has a summary of franks knicks career as well as commentary from a French knicks podcaster.

Overall they like Frank but the knicks terry and trey is worried about his opportunities.
Offensively to say he is a work in progress is an understatement.

If he is the BEST perimeter defender on the team, he should find chances imo.


But if you look at the videos from his French league games and some of the video highlights of him from the beginning of his rookie season, he's much more confident shooting the ball from long range. Fizdale fcked up Frank's head with all that Mudiay talk. I thought Fizdale was going to have a hands-free orgasm when he said all that stuff about getting Mudiay right during the press conference.

I've decided that Fizdale is on my bad side to start the season. Prove me wrong or else you gone.


Would agree fitz didn’t do the best development in a tank year.
It’s disappointing because in a tank, developing should be as close to the primary objective as losing is.

When your trying to win, you won’t be able to establish your preferred destiny, only what it takes to win. This is a missed opportunity imo.
We have only seen fitz in a losing context so he may deserve benefit of the doubt. In Memphis I guess he got tuned out by the vets. He does have that Glare thing but the knicks are young.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1877 » by remi_222 » Fri Aug 9, 2019 6:13 pm

DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:Whens next France game?


august 15, 16, 17 vs Montenegro, Brazil and Argentina
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1878 » by K-DOT » Fri Aug 9, 2019 6:59 pm

GONYK wrote:
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Frank at point of attack + an elite rim protector = top 10 defense in the NBA.


The crazy part being they'll both be 21 for the majority of this season and I'd bet on that holding true assuming they stay healthy.


Play Frank wherever you want on offense, but we have a lot better chance of winning if he's sharing minutes with Mitch for the majority of the game while guarding the 1.

Fun stats for the day

Our Drtg this year was 112.9, tied for 3rd worst in the league

The 2 man lineup of Frank and Mitch had a Drtg of 107.3, which would have put us at 8th

The 3 man lineup of Frank, Dot, and Mitch had a Drtg of 98.8. The team with the best Drtg in the league last year? The Bucks, at 104.9

And just because I want to keep talking about it, that stretch where we started Frank, Dot, Tim, Vonleh, and Mitch, those 5 had a Drtg of 100.5 over those 8 games, and an Ortg of 107.7 (higher than our season average of 104). So over 8 games we were a bottom 10 offense, but the best defense in the league by far, and yet because of one bad quarter (the Magic game), Fiz yanked that lineup and never played it again
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1879 » by DaT WaVeY RiCaN » Fri Aug 9, 2019 7:35 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Fiz going to be the next in long line of Knick coaches to get fired within 2.5 years.

Why? Lol

Hes slowly changing the perception of our team amongst NBA players.

Not to mention hes great with the young guys.

Marc Gasol even admitted that Fiz made him a better player.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1880 » by KnicksGod » Fri Aug 9, 2019 7:40 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
CharlesOakley wrote:Fizzdale is:

1. classic Knicks fake hustle
2. master tank commander

I think #1 is a lot more likely.


Yep. His only accomplishment is that licked Lebron's sphincter well while at Miami.


I think we are in line for some Payton v. Frank discussion and angst. I like both guys though. I think Payton was a really good signing actually.

Frank needs to be given a key role but a manageable one. This handles bump, if it holds up, is big.
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