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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#741 » by Dantares » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:40 am

God why can't he shoot like that in the games.
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Post#742 » by Polk377 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:13 am

Dantares wrote:God why can't he shoot like that in the games.


This is progression. His shot looks a lot smoother than this season with less hitch, quicker release and better balance. He will get things right guys and will be a game changer on the defensive end.
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Post#743 » by JustCame » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:46 am

I'm just hoping he turns into Tony Allen with an average 3pt shot.
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Post#744 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:36 am

Frank looking smooth. Hard work is paying off. Hope he’s working on his handle too
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#745 » by knicksh20b » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:42 am

Dantares wrote:God why can't he shoot like that in the games.


He's gotta learn to. Hopefully he can.
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Post#746 » by F N 11 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:27 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:Frank looking smooth. Hard work is paying off. Hope he’s working on his handle too

That’s why I’m not not tripping on Frank. Last season alone his handle improved light years.
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Post#747 » by F N 11 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:29 am

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Looks to have changed his form a bit!

Will he be in SL?

Son got the Klay Thompson looking release now.
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Post#748 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:44 am

I'm just glad to hear Louis Labia is tightening up his game.
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Post#749 » by Fat Kat » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:07 am

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Dantares wrote:God why can't he shoot like that in the games.


He's gotta learn to. Hopefully he can.


Hopefully a clearly defined 3&D role can help him focus and prioritize.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#750 » by matchman » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:00 pm

:pray: That shooting form and the motion is getting there.
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Post#751 » by NYKAL » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:09 pm

not impressed by practice video. Lots of NBA players look like great shooters in practice but, when the bright lights come on, they lay bricks That said, I'm not hoping for failure. Him improving could only benefit the team.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#752 » by K-DOT » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:10 pm

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knicksh20b wrote:
Dantares wrote:God why can't he shoot like that in the games.


He's gotta learn to. Hopefully he can.


Hopefully a clearly defined 3&D role can help him focus and prioritize.

I mean, that'd help

His problem, like a lot of young players, is consistency. I know it's easy to just sh*tpost about "Frank sucks, can't shoot," I mean, I do it all the time for other players

But, look at his splits last year for 3pt shooting. https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/ntilila01/splits/2019

He shot 39% in October, then 15% in November, back up to 37% in December, then down to 31% in January

He had stretches of being really good at shooting, one incredibly bad stretch, and one regular bad stretch. If he works hard enough, I see no reason he can't get to being a consistent 36, 37 percent shooter. Which is well above the Mendoza line for someone as good defensively as him, and while he's not a great playmaker for a PG, he is a good secondary facilitator as an off guard. Think Nic Batum with much better defense, that's his ceiling. It's not sexy, and you can replace him, but I think giving up on him for nothing at this point is a bad move

But this year is the year he needs to start showing something. If he doesn't, I'll be sad, but I'd support trading him
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Post#753 » by Jose7 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:21 pm

Frank’s value is at all time low. Makes 0 sense in trading him..he’s a non value prospect at this time..let’s see if his makeup (family background) can translate into becoming an effective offensive player and maybe actually being healthy..

I’m all in for the youth rebuild..if we pass on big dawgs/don’t get max cats would love to get a Beverly type guy in our franchise..
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Post#754 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:22 pm

NYKAL wrote:not impressed by practice video. Lots of NBA players look like great shooters in practice but, when the bright lights come on, they lay bricks That said, I'm not hoping for failure. Him improving could only benefit the team.


Same thing I say when people say "Mitch has form on his jumper! He'll be taking jumpers and 3's".

I'll believe when I see it in games. I think Mitch took 3 or 4 jumpers all year. If it was game good, he'd have taken more of them. On the plus side, he made at least half his of his 4 jumpers!!!!

Kanter shoots 3's in practice. Nicely.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#755 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:17 pm

Fat Kat wrote:
knicksh20b wrote:
Dantares wrote:God why can't he shoot like that in the games.


He's gotta learn to. Hopefully he can.


Hopefully a clearly defined 3&D role can help him focus and prioritize.


at worst he could have that as a base and continue to expand/develop.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#756 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:19 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
NYKAL wrote:not impressed by practice video. Lots of NBA players look like great shooters in practice but, when the bright lights come on, they lay bricks That said, I'm not hoping for failure. Him improving could only benefit the team.


Same thing I say when people say "Mitch has form on his jumper! He'll be taking jumpers and 3's".

I'll believe when I see it in games. I think Mitch took 3 or 4 jumpers all year. If it was game good, he'd have taken more of them. On the plus side, he made at least half his of his 4 jumpers!!!!

Kanter shoots 3's in practice. Nicely.


i think the takeaway from this video was the form/release development. not simply if he could hit a few in a row on camera.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#757 » by Meat » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:31 pm

Dantares wrote:God why can't he shoot like that in the games.

performance anxiety obv
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Post#758 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:38 pm

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NYKAL wrote:not impressed by practice video. Lots of NBA players look like great shooters in practice but, when the bright lights come on, they lay bricks That said, I'm not hoping for failure. Him improving could only benefit the team.


Same thing I say when people say "Mitch has form on his jumper! He'll be taking jumpers and 3's".

I'll believe when I see it in games. I think Mitch took 3 or 4 jumpers all year. If it was game good, he'd have taken more of them. On the plus side, he made at least half his of his 4 jumpers!!!!

Kanter shoots 3's in practice. Nicely.


i think the takeaway from this video was the form/release development. not simply if he could hit a few in a row on camera.


Agreed. And I think Mitch has nice form as well. I think he'll be a solid shooter 12-17 feet, sooner than later. 3 pointers? I think he'll shoot them too, though how well remains to be seen.

For both guys, I'll still wait on feeling too much until summer league/pre season
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#759 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:39 pm

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Same thing I say when people say "Mitch has form on his jumper! He'll be taking jumpers and 3's".

I'll believe when I see it in games. I think Mitch took 3 or 4 jumpers all year. If it was game good, he'd have taken more of them. On the plus side, he made at least half his of his 4 jumpers!!!!

Kanter shoots 3's in practice. Nicely.


i think the takeaway from this video was the form/release development. not simply if he could hit a few in a row on camera.


Agreed. And I think Mitch has nice form as well. I think he'll be a solid shooter 12-17 feet, sooner than later. 3 pointers? I think he'll shoot them too, though how well remains to be seen.

For both guys, I'll still wait on feeling too much until summer league/pre season


of course. it doesn't mean much until you see it in game action.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#760 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:44 pm

Jose7 wrote:Frank’s value is at all time low. Makes 0 sense in trading him..he’s a non value prospect at this time..let’s see if his makeup (family background) can translate into becoming an effective offensive player and maybe actually being healthy..

I’m all in for the youth rebuild..if we pass on big dawgs/don’t get max cats would love to get a Beverly type guy in our franchise..


if no big fish, we need to supplement the roster with players who can help raise these pups.

you probably end up keeping lance thomas for his last year.

i think beverley is still valuable and could want years on his deal. most guys will value time unless you're going to strategically pay on one-year deals like the sixers have done with redick. pat bev might take a one year for significantly more than his per-year long-term price.
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