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Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: UFC 253 Adesanya/Costa and the post Jon Jones LHW era begins

Posted: Sun Oct 4, 2020 2:03 pm
by j4remi
HarthorneWingo wrote:Izzy juicing roids story is picking up traction as a result of that pectoral muscle seen in the Costa fight.

Remi, what's the scoop?


I've seen two conflicting approaches on the story. I've seen a bunch of body builders, including former and current juicers, point to Izzy's pec and say that it's steroids. I've also seen a handful of a doctors that talk MMA mention that while you can't rule out steroids; there are other completely reasonable explanations that could cause it (including just trauma to the area).

My personal MMA philosophy has always been "they're probably all on something" but at the same time, I've gotta give Izzy the credit that he's never looked like a juicing fighter. His build is vascular or dry muscle; his pain thresholds seem mostly normal although he has grit; and his power is about precision rather than blasting through guards. He's also never failed in the USADA pool nor had big changes in his performance like guys that might be mistiming cycles.

So all that to say, I'm not really sure. I'll never be shocked by a guy failing a drug test but in this case, I'm giving Adesanya the benefit of a doubt.

Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: UFC 253 Adesanya/Costa and the post Jon Jones LHW era begins

Posted: Tue Oct 6, 2020 2:19 am
by HarthorneWingo
Usman v Burns for 256 is off. Usman still too banged up. UFC is looking a replacement fights.

Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: UFC 253 Adesanya/Costa and the post Jon Jones LHW era begins

Posted: Tue Oct 6, 2020 2:22 am
by bringbackhoffa
HarthorneWingo wrote:Usman v Burns for 256 is off. Usman still too banged up. UFC is looking a replacement fights.


Leon v Burns, and if burns declines do Colby v Jorge for BMF belt

Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: UFC 253 Adesanya/Costa and the post Jon Jones LHW era begins

Posted: Tue Oct 6, 2020 2:47 am
by HarthorneWingo
bringbackhoffa wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Usman v Burns for 256 is off. Usman still too banged up. UFC is looking a replacement fights.


Leon v Burns, and if burns declines do Colby v Jorge for BMF belt


Colby Covington was at the Trump v Biden debate ... not wearing a mask! Is he in quarantine? :noway:

Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: UFC 253 Adesanya/Costa and the post Jon Jones LHW era begins

Posted: Tue Oct 6, 2020 2:53 am
by bringbackhoffa
HarthorneWingo wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Usman v Burns for 256 is off. Usman still too banged up. UFC is looking a replacement fights.


Leon v Burns, and if burns declines do Colby v Jorge for BMF belt


Colby Covington was at the Trump v Biden debate ... not wearing a mask! Is he in quarantine? :noway:


Jorge doing a bus tour with Don Jr so they both at risk..

Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: UFC 253 Adesanya/Costa and the post Jon Jones LHW era begins

Posted: Tue Oct 6, 2020 4:08 am
by HarthorneWingo
bringbackhoffa wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:
Leon v Burns, and if burns declines do Colby v Jorge for BMF belt


Colby Covington was at the Trump v Biden debate ... not wearing a mask! Is he in quarantine? :noway:


Jorge doing a bus tour with Don Jr so they both at risk..


Except that Don Jr has tested negative thus far. So maybe he took a few precautions - along with his sister and Kushner - that the others didn't? I don't think we're sure yet which people got infected at which event, yet, because the contract tracers are meeting up with resistance from the campaign to provide accurate info.

My whole point is it's one thing to support Trump like Colby has on social media and at events but it's quite another to voluntarily put your own career and health on the line for this numbskull.

Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: UFC 253 Adesanya/Costa and the post Jon Jones LHW era begins

Posted: Tue Oct 6, 2020 5:55 pm
by bringbackhoffa
Darren till twitter on fire today, straight up clowning Perry

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Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: UFC 253 Adesanya/Costa and the post Jon Jones LHW era begins

Posted: Tue Oct 6, 2020 9:06 pm
by HarthorneWingo
bringbackhoffa wrote:Darren till twitter on fire today, straight up clowning Perry

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Perry’s tweeting about Till’s babies’ mammas. :lol:

Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: UFC 253 Adesanya/Costa and the post Jon Jones LHW era begins

Posted: Tue Oct 6, 2020 9:09 pm
by bringbackhoffa
HarthorneWingo wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:Darren till twitter on fire today, straight up clowning Perry

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Perry’s tweeting about Till’s babies’ mammas.

And till posts perry baba mama as his next baba mama and then posts perry ex-wife as another one of his baby mama's lol this is gold

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Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: UFC 253 Adesanya/Costa and the post Jon Jones LHW era begins

Posted: Thu Oct 8, 2020 5:16 am
by HarthorneWingo
Tony's getting shafted and disrespected by the UFC. He doesn't deserve this at all.


Watch on YouTube

Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: UFC 253 Adesanya/Costa and the post Jon Jones LHW era begins

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:12 am
by Manhattan Project
Without a doubt the sickest kicking KO I’ve ever seen, that was straight out of a video game.

Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: UFC 253 Adesanya/Costa and the post Jon Jones LHW era begins

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:29 am
by j4remi
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Rothwell vs tybura is one hell of a fight so far.

Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: UFC 253 Adesanya/Costa and the post Jon Jones LHW era begins

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:50 am
by Manhattan Project
j4remi wrote:
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Rothwell vs tybura is one hell of a fight so far.


So I guess you're the best person to ask, where does that KO rank for you?

Henderson over Bisping?
Rodriguez over Korean Zombie?
Barboza vs Etim?
Hall when he killed a man on TUF?

I don't want to be a prisoner of the moment, but yeah it was nasty.

Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: UFC 253 Adesanya/Costa and the post Jon Jones LHW era begins

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:06 am
by j4remi
Manhattan Project wrote:
j4remi wrote:
Read on Twitter


Rothwell vs tybura is one hell of a fight so far.


So I guess you're the best person to ask, where does that KO rank for you?

Henderson over Bisping?
Rodriguez over Korean Zombie?
Barboza vs Etim?
Hall when he killed a man on TUF?

I don't want to be a prisoner of the moment, but yeah it was nasty.


I just finished a message to some friends where I said, “this might be knee jerk, but I think that’s one of the greatest KO’s in history”

I’d have to really sit and think about my top ten because I have a feeling it’s in there. Add Silva vs fryklund and Masvidal vs askren to your list and thats basically the territory I feel like that KO was in...but my adrenaline’s pumping right now lol.

Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: UFC 253 Adesanya/Costa and the post Jon Jones LHW era begins

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:10 am
by Manhattan Project
j4remi wrote:
Manhattan Project wrote:
j4remi wrote:
Read on Twitter


Rothwell vs tybura is one hell of a fight so far.


So I guess you're the best person to ask, where does that KO rank for you?

Henderson over Bisping?
Rodriguez over Korean Zombie?
Barboza vs Etim?
Hall when he killed a man on TUF?

I don't want to be a prisoner of the moment, but yeah it was nasty.


I just finished a message to some friends where I said, “this might be knee jerk, but I think that’s one of the greatest KO’s in history”

I’d have to really sit and think about my top ten because I have a feeling it’s in there. Add Silva vs fryklund and Masvidal vs askren to your list and thats basically the territory I feel like that KO was in...but my adrenaline’s pumping right now lol.


I think Yair's elbow beats Silva's for me, but Silva's was done soooooo long along I completely forgot that one. I guess if you add Masvidal/Askren, McGregor/Aldo makes it in there. Yeah this KO had everything, the surprise factor, the we've never seen it, the epic fall/reaction from Impa. Can't wait to see some of these lists over the next few days.

Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: UFC 253 Adesanya/Costa and the post Jon Jones LHW era begins

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:10 am
by HarthorneWingo
Barbosa!

29-28? :-?

Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: UFC 253 Adesanya/Costa and the post Jon Jones LHW era begins

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:31 am
by HarthorneWingo
Those clips to the top of the head don't seem to land clean but they do the job.

Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: UFC 253 Adesanya/Costa and the post Jon Jones LHW era begins

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:35 am
by j4remi
Wow, Barboza and Sandhagen with great wins! I think Dana wanted Moraes to skip past Sterling but now that Sandhagen just didn’t that, no more excuses to cheat Aljo out his title shot. This division is so sick!

Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: UFC 253 Adesanya/Costa and the post Jon Jones LHW era begins

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:13 am
by HarthorneWingo
j4remi wrote:Wow, Barboza and Sandhagen with great wins! I think Dana wanted Moraes to skip past Sterling but now that Sandhagen just didn’t that, no more excuses to cheat Aljo out his title shot. This division is so sick!


Sandhagen looked great. Marlon couldn't get close. His corner sounded clueless after the first round.

Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: UFC 253 Adesanya/Costa and the post Jon Jones LHW era begins

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:40 am
by Manhattan Project
j4remi wrote:Wow, Barboza and Sandhagen with great wins! I think Dana wanted Moraes to skip past Sterling but now that Sandhagen just didn’t that, no more excuses to cheat Aljo out his title shot. This division is so sick!


So I love me the Korean Zombie as much as the next guy, so I guess the question is, does Ortega have enough power in his hands to put him away? Will ring rust really be a thing for Ortega, because all I can see is him being picked apart by Holloway in that epic beat down. I want Zombie to win, I'd love to see him fight for the belt again even though I don't think he'd win.