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Re: Official 2020 Mets Thread, p. 50 

Post#1161 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:18 pm

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If Andres Gimemez is the SS of the future and JD is firmly entrenched at 3B. 2B should go to McNeil IMO. That leaves Rosario out of the mix. What can we get back if we trade both Rosario and Diaz?


Obviously Cano is the big question mark. Will there be a universal DH going forward? With McNeil/Smith/Davis ability to play LF I'd imagine some sort of rotation for that position.

The second half last year Rosario was really putting together a nice run, this year he's been pretty bad, but it's hard for me to put a lot of stock into this season for anyone. You'd imagine we'd go after pitching or try to restock pile the farm system, but who knows man. Gimenez glove looks legit, far better than Rosario's, the question is can he hit? What happens when teams actually start to scout him and learn how to pitch to him? It's far too early to be throwing in the towel on Rosario.


Perhaps. I really really like Gimenez so perhaps I'm projecting a bit. I think the DH is now here to stay. Given that, I'd prefer to have Alonso DH and Dom Smith play 1B where he's a potential Gold Glove. I know that's going to hurt Pete's feeling but I think that's what's best for the team.

Cano is hitting up a storm, so maybe now is the time to try and get something/anything for him. Cano is not part of the team's future. I'd like to see an infield of

1B Dom Smith
2B Jeff McNeil
SS Gimenez
3B JD Davis
DH Alonso
C ?

We really need a catcher and a center fielder.

In any event, we should find out who our new owner is before the end of the year and that owner or ownership group will certainly part ways with all of the old baggage. Goodbye Brodie. Goodbye Rojas (I hope we keep Chili Davis and Jeremy Hefner). And I think they'll eat any mistakes on the team which present obstacles to the development of the team.
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Re: Official 2020 Mets Thread, p. 50 

Post#1162 » by KnicksGadfly » Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:15 am

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Re: Official 2020 Mets Thread, p. 50 

Post#1163 » by JXL » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:29 pm

On the latest episode of "Embarrassed Mets"

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Post#1164 » by blueNorange » Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:25 pm

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it's weird because brodie left his rich gig just to be jeff's mouthpiece, and they just gave him the kiss of death.

it sucks because all this is being talked more than what the mets/marlins did and dom smith's emotional speech.
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Post#1165 » by JXL » Fri Aug 28, 2020 6:09 pm

Mets and Knicks are 2 peas in a pod.

They can do and say the things that's beneficial, but that all can be undone by incompetence in their respective front offices.
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Re: Official 2020 Mets Thread, p. 50 

Post#1166 » by blueNorange » Fri Aug 28, 2020 6:53 pm

JXL wrote:Mets and Knicks are 2 peas in a pod.

They can do and say the things that's beneficial, but that all can be undone by incompetence in their respective front offices.

hopefully, that's all over soon when the wiplons sell, i just don't want it to be a-rod because he has no money, he's borrowing from other investors to the point that if he does buy the mets, he'll be in debt from the start so the mets go from cheap owners to new cheap owners.

also the gross tactics j-lo have done and aren't even owners, using the color of their skin as a reason why they should buy the mets even when they still can't reach 2 billion with their investors. but here's the kicker, rumors have that a-rod will still let jeff wilpon have a job if he sold it him.

they even go as low as saying wouldn't it be nice if baseball had a puerto rican female as an owner when completely ignoring that steve cohen(the billionaire with deep pockets that's a die hard mets fan) has a wife that's puerto rican.

knicks are stuck in this hell, the mets are going to come out of it .. but it depends on who they get sold to.

if it's steven cohen then the baseball will be on watch because the mets would have one of the richest owners in baseball.
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Re: Official 2020 Mets Thread, p. 50 

Post#1167 » by JXL » Fri Aug 28, 2020 6:57 pm

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JXL wrote:Mets and Knicks are 2 peas in a pod.

They can do and say the things that's beneficial, but that all can be undone by incompetence in their respective front offices.

hopefully, that's all over soon when the wiplons sell, i just don't want it to be a-rod because he has no money, he's borrowing from other investors to the point that if he does buy the mets, he'll be in debt from the start so the mets go from cheap owners to new cheap owners.

also the gross tactics j-lo have done and aren't even owners, using the color of their skin as a reason why they should buy the mets even when they still can't reach 2 billion with their investors. but here's the kicker, rumors have that a-rod will still let jeff wilpon have a job if he sold it him.

they even go as low as saying wouldn't it be nice if baseball had a puerto rican female as an owner when completely ignoring that steve cohen(the billionaire with deep pockets that's a die hard mets fan) has a wife that's puerto rican.

knicks are stuck in this hell, the mets are going to come out of it .. but it depends on who they get sold to.

if it's steven cohen then the baseball will be on watch because the mets would have one of the richest owners in baseball.


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Re: Official 2020 Mets Thread, p. 50 

Post#1168 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:19 pm

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JXL wrote:Mets and Knicks are 2 peas in a pod.

They can do and say the things that's beneficial, but that all can be undone by incompetence in their respective front offices.

hopefully, that's all over soon when the wiplons sell, i just don't want it to be a-rod because he has no money, he's borrowing from other investors to the point that if he does buy the mets, he'll be in debt from the start so the mets go from cheap owners to new cheap owners.

also the gross tactics j-lo have done and aren't even owners, using the color of their skin as a reason why they should buy the mets even when they still can't reach 2 billion with their investors. but here's the kicker, rumors have that a-rod will still let jeff wilpon have a job if he sold it him.

they even go as low as saying wouldn't it be nice if baseball had a puerto rican female as an owner when completely ignoring that steve cohen(the billionaire with deep pockets that's a die hard mets fan) has a wife that's puerto rican.

knicks are stuck in this hell, the mets are going to come out of it .. but it depends on who they get sold to.

if it's steven cohen then the baseball will be on watch because the mets would have one of the richest owners in baseball.


If only Jeff Bezos can see he can become a trillionaire if he owned the Knicks.


Forget Bezos. We have Cohen who's actually a fan of the team.

Manfred will never approve a sale to JRod
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Re: Official 2020 Mets Thread, p. 50 

Post#1169 » by mpharris36 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:43 am

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Post#1170 » by mpharris36 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:48 am

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Re: Official 2020 Mets Thread, p. 50 

Post#1171 » by Manhattan Project » Sat Aug 29, 2020 3:06 am

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How sad is it that I still need to see it to believe it, we've been here before. :lol:
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Re: Official 2020 Mets Thread, p. 50 

Post#1172 » by blueNorange » Sat Aug 29, 2020 3:08 am

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praise jesus!!

FOH arod!

re-sign conforto and thor.

sign lindor.

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Re: Official 2020 Mets Thread, p. 50 

Post#1173 » by blueNorange » Sat Aug 29, 2020 3:10 am

the days of every free agent receiving a stupid offer from only the yankees, dodgers, angels, or redsox are over.

mets will now be one of those teams.
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Re: Official 2020 Mets Thread, p. 50 

Post#1174 » by mpharris36 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 3:13 am

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praise jesus!!

FOH arod!

re-sign conforto and thor.

sign lindor.

claim ny.


add JT realmuto in there as well

we have the wealthiest owner in sports!
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Post#1175 » by blueNorange » Sat Aug 29, 2020 3:18 am

sign trevor bauer, sign them all.

cohen has 10-15 good years left in him, he's going all in.
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Re: Official 2020 Mets Thread, p. 50 

Post#1176 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:40 am

blueNorange wrote:sign trevor bauer, sign them all.

cohen has 10-15 good years left in him, he's going all in.


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Re: Official 2020 Mets Thread, p. 50 

Post#1177 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:41 am

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praise jesus!!

FOH arod!

re-sign conforto and thor.

sign lindor.

claim ny.


add JT realmuto in there as well

we have the wealthiest owner in sports!


Gimenez is our SS. :x
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Re: Official 2020 Mets Thread, p. 50 

Post#1178 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:04 am

Baty added to the 60 man roster FWIW
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Re: Official 2020 Mets Thread, p. 50 

Post#1179 » by Jeffrey » Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:25 pm

KnicksGadfly wrote:Watcha guys think about your GM?


Just my feeling but he has been ****. He's an **** and the Mets have the worst PR that started from what's his face that just retired.

Trades: D-
Free Agents: F
Draft: B+
International FAs: won't know for many years


Trades" Two of his biggest trades will be known as top 5 worst trades for the next decade.
Cano and Diaz for Jay Bruce, Anthony Swarzak, Gerson Bautista, Justin Dunn and Kelenic

Even if Cano continues his torrid hitting it is still a lopsided trade because I have never seen a trade where a team takes the FULL salary of a player in their late 30s.

I have never seen a trade for a player in the twilight of their career with PED next to their name being traded for a top prospect in Kelenic and his star continues to rise.

Never seen a GM that puts so much value on a closer even though he was 25 years old and coming off 1 great year.

Marcus Stroman for Anthony Kay and Simeon Woods-Richardson
Giving up two top 10 arms in our farm system for 10-12 stars and will hit free agency. Not even sure if he is worth what he might be asking for.

JD Davis, Cody Bohanek for Luis Santana, Ross Adolph and Scott Manea
I will give BVW credit for this trade but then again it really fell on his lap. Will explain further below

Free Agents: 2018 free agent signing
Jeurys Familia - 3 year 30 million
Justin Wilson - 2 years 20 million
Jed Lowrie - 2 years 20 million
Wilson Ramos - 2 years 19 million

2019 Free Agent signings
Michael Wacha - 1 year 3 million that can go up to 7 million in incentives
Rick Porcello - 1 year 10 million guarantee
Dellin Betances - 1 year 10.5 million guarantee that can go up to 14.5 million
Brad Barch - resigned

High priced players that didn't do as much as you would hope for and none had huge impacts.

Letting go of Zach Wheeler without countering offer and then needed to make stupid remarks.

Draft - His philosophy was to target high potential players in the later round and pay them accordingly which I agree with. His last two draft was just that. But imagine if you still had Kelenic, Simeon Woods-Richardson, Anthony Kay, Justin Dunn?

2019
Brety Bay - no.4 prospect
Josh Wolf - no.10
Matthew Allan - overslot - no.5 prospect

2020
Pete Crow-Armstrong - no.6 prospect
JT Ginn - no.7 prospect
Isiah Greene - no.11 prospect

Current Mets Roster
Currently, we do have good pieces and I'm not sure if I can give BVW the credit. I will give credit for bringing up Pete Alfonso which led to one of the best rookie year in ages. As a GM, you needed to be mindful regarding salaries, arbitration etc. We lost a year because of that.

Lineup
Jeff McNeil - was never slotted to be in the starting lineup only when Cano/Lowrie/Frazier went down.
JD Davis - was never slotted no more than a bench player until others went down
Dom Smith - was an afterthought
Conforto - before BVW
Nimmo - before BVW
Cano - trade
Ramos - signed as FA
Guillermo/Geminez - will give credit for bringing them up
Rosario - before BVW

The roster is solid, we are top 3 in BA, top 3 in OBP but deadlast in RISP. If this was a full-season I'm pretty sure it will be level itself out.

Pitching Staff
Jacob DeGrom - pure ace and got a long-term contract. He didn't negotiate it since it was conflict of interest
David Peterson - brought up and doing fine. Give him credit for that
Michael Wacha - Horrible signing
Rick Porcello - Horrible signing
Seth Lugo - going from top reliever to rotation since we are depleted. Felt like this should've been the move a while ago
Steven Matz - pergatory - not a starter or reliever

Bullpen
Diaz - closer to setup now back to closer. Not due to his dominance but Lugo moving up to rotation
Other relievers - shrugs, nothing earth shattering
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Re: Official 2020 Mets Thread, p. 50 

Post#1180 » by blueNorange » Tue Sep 1, 2020 5:51 pm

so cohen isn't playing, after he officially buys the mets he's gonna try to buy sny.
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