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Re: Official 2020 Mets Thread, p. 50 

Post#1281 » by aggo » Wed Dec 2, 2020 10:36 pm

I'd rather Bauer + springer if Cohen is set on spending $$.


we need the SP. the offense isn't actually the issue especially if DH is coming and they can play Smith/Alonso together
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Post#1282 » by blueNorange » Wed Dec 2, 2020 10:38 pm

but with bauer you roll the dice that he most likely cheated.

the spike in spin rate is not natural.
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Post#1283 » by aggo » Wed Dec 2, 2020 10:38 pm

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blueNorange wrote:btw y'all the person on another mets forum with legit known sources(he's broken many deals before) said this.

but as always fwiw.

I don’t know about very good chance but an option that has been floated that I heard was Odorizzi or Kluber with JT and springer.

a lot out there.


it sounds like 2 of the 3 is an ideal situation.

I'm not sure trusting either Stroman or Noah as a #2 in a big game is a thing I would be comfortable with. Odorizzi is more of a 3 or 4 type guy.

But having both JT and Springer I wouldn't pass up but I would probably prefer Bauer and Springer with a defensive catcher.

But beggers can't be choosers. Just think in any series if the mets are throwing Degrom and Bauer back to back they would be really tough to beat.


I guess signing JT actually does make more sense than usual, and its a very "gtfo im here" kinda message because it directly makes your opponent weaker.

but net on net in terms of performance and added wins, I think Bauer would net the mets more wins given that the starting rotation seems a lot weaker than the offense rn.
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Post#1284 » by blueNorange » Wed Dec 2, 2020 10:42 pm

this tweet doesn't look good since it did end up happening with his spin rate.
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Post#1285 » by newyorker4ever » Wed Dec 2, 2020 11:03 pm

blueNorange wrote:btw y'all the person on another mets forum with legit known sources(he's broken many deals before) said this.

but as always fwiw.

I don’t know about very good chance but an option that has been floated that I heard was Odorizzi or Kluber with JT and springer.

a lot out there.


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Post#1287 » by blueNorange » Wed Dec 2, 2020 11:43 pm

the mets just paid someone nearly 8 million to be their 7th inning pitcher.
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Post#1288 » by Im Coming Home » Wed Dec 2, 2020 11:52 pm

is MLB Free Agency starting? Lets gooo
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Post#1289 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Dec 5, 2020 4:50 am

Im Coming Home wrote:is MLB Free Agency starting? Lets gooo


I wonder if this is a ploy to get Bauer to come down in his price? I didn't see this one coming.

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Post#1290 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Dec 8, 2020 9:51 am

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Post#1291 » by blueNorange » Wed Dec 9, 2020 8:01 pm

there's so much smoke about springer and mccann being mets, it's almost a given at this point.

apparently realmuto doesn't want to come to ny unless it's a 6 year deal with big time money, pretty much a "pay me to literally change my mind" situation.
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Re: Official 2020 Mets Thread, p. 50 

Post#1292 » by aggo » Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:14 am

blueNorange wrote:there's so much smoke about springer and mccann being mets, it's almost a given at this point.

apparently realmuto doesn't want to come to ny unless it's a 6 year deal with big time money, pretty much a "pay me to literally change my mind" situation.

as long as he doesnt sign with the Phillies I dont care.

I trust Alderson, but I really hope he doesnt actually believe the current starting rotation is enough to last an entire season.

McCann + springer with no SP would worry me.

I'd rather springer + SP.
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Re: Official 2020 Mets Thread, p. 50 

Post#1293 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:16 am

aggo wrote:
blueNorange wrote:there's so much smoke about springer and mccann being mets, it's almost a given at this point.

apparently realmuto doesn't want to come to ny unless it's a 6 year deal with big time money, pretty much a "pay me to literally change my mind" situation.

as long as he doesnt sign with the Phillies I dont care.

I trust Alderson, but I really hope he doesnt actually believe the current starting rotation is enough to last an entire season.

McCann + springer with no SP would worry me.

I'd rather springer + SP.


What other offers does Realmuto have anyhow? I'm not reading any reports of other teams beating down his door trying to sign him. Maybe his agent is pricing him out of the market particularly in another possible COVID-impacted season. I think there may be some gamesmanship going on here by both sides. But if JT really doesn't want to come here and be a part of this lineup and pitching staff, then F him. :lol:
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Post#1294 » by blueNorange » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:59 pm

mets signed james mccann 4 years/40 mill

good deal, they're banking on his upward trend and he's not making a lot at all -- now sign springer!
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Post#1295 » by Jeffrey » Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:56 pm

blueNorange wrote:mets signed james mccann 4 years/40 mill

good deal, they're banking on his upward trend and he's not making a lot at all -- now sign springer!


I think it's a good deal as long as it leads to someone bigger. It will be a bridge to our top prospect (if he continues his trend). I would not want to pay a catcher for that many years and no DH in NL in sight.
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Post#1296 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:12 pm

Nice. Excellent deal for the Mets. Sandy's in charge!
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Post#1297 » by blueNorange » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:48 pm

Jeffrey wrote:
blueNorange wrote:mets signed james mccann 4 years/40 mill

good deal, they're banking on his upward trend and he's not making a lot at all -- now sign springer!


I think it's a good deal as long as it leads to someone bigger. It will be a bridge to our top prospect (if he continues his trend). I would not want to pay a catcher for that many years and no DH in NL in sight.

even if mccann is a .700 ops player, that contract isn't bad.

he also throws out 36% cs for his career.

but more importantly he's only a bridge until francisco alvarez is ready.
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Re: Official 2020 Mets Thread, p. 50 

Post#1298 » by Jeffrey » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:25 pm

blueNorange wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:
blueNorange wrote:mets signed james mccann 4 years/40 mill

good deal, they're banking on his upward trend and he's not making a lot at all -- now sign springer!


I think it's a good deal as long as it leads to someone bigger. It will be a bridge to our top prospect (if he continues his trend). I would not want to pay a catcher for that many years and no DH in NL in sight.

even if mccann is a .700 ops player, that contract isn't bad.

he also throws out 36% cs for his career.

but more importantly he's only a bridge until francisco alvarez is ready.


Exactly! I'm hoping the Mets use the free agent market to plug in short-term fixes unless it's a superstar. I see the catcher position as a short term fix (4 or less years) until a prospect comes up (if all goes right).

When I look at CF, there's really no one waiting in the wings except for Crow-Armstrong who is probably 4-5 years away. By then, Springer would have to move to the corner outfield.

As for pitching, always need a bundle of them and we just don't have that depth right now. It was simple to QA Stroman and tender Matz. I'm all for signing Bauer and a workhorse like Tanaka.

My FA wishlist:
1. Bauer
2. Springer

That's it. I don't see that many holes for the Mets. Because we don't have the DH rule next year... maybe we can do without Springer and sign Jackie Bradley Jr? Go all in on Bauer and Tanaka?
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Re: Official 2020 Mets Thread, p. 50 

Post#1299 » by aggo » Sun Dec 13, 2020 3:29 am

blueNorange wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:
blueNorange wrote:mets signed james mccann 4 years/40 mill

good deal, they're banking on his upward trend and he's not making a lot at all -- now sign springer!


I think it's a good deal as long as it leads to someone bigger. It will be a bridge to our top prospect (if he continues his trend). I would not want to pay a catcher for that many years and no DH in NL in sight.

even if mccann is a .700 ops player, that contract isn't bad.

he also throws out 36% cs for his career.

but more importantly he's only a bridge until francisco alvarez is ready.



70% production of JT with 25% of the cost = right decision



we still need at least 1 SP.

dream = springer + 1 of odorizzi/tanaka
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Re: Official 2020 Mets Thread, p. 50 

Post#1300 » by blueNorange » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:33 am

mets named jared porter as their new gm, everyone in baseball has said great things about the guy.

is this real life? great leadership from top to bottom? a new culture.
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