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2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast.

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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast. 

Post#1881 » by AllanHoustonFan » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:36 am

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ibraheim718 wrote:Forget Kyrie and Durant and Davis.. hope you get extremely lucky with the player you select this year.. one year contracts.. keep sucking until that transcendent player comes along and you can get lucky enough to draft him. Luck luck luck luck!!!


I think that DLO is going to happen lol It fits with the youth movement. This board is going to go NUTS. I'm not sure where we'll go from there. Any other young guys on the market?


Is he an unrestricted free agent?

restricted
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Post#1882 » by JBreezeNY » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:36 am

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JBreezeNY wrote:Roc Nation??

Whaaaaa?

A player of Kyrie’s level?

That’s...interesting


Don’t they have KD too

Oh wow I didn’t know that :o

That’s a fun fact of the day :lol:
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Post#1883 » by mpharris36 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:36 am

enjoy playing in front of the least attended home games kyrie :lol:
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast. 

Post#1884 » by drekwins » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:36 am

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drekwins wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:Forget Kyrie and Durant and Davis.. hope you get extremely lucky with the player you select this year.. one year contracts.. keep sucking until that transcendent player comes along and you can get lucky enough to draft him. Luck luck luck luck!!!


I think that DLO is going to happen lol It fits with the youth movement. This board is going to go NUTS. I'm not sure where we'll go from there. Any other young guys on the market?


Is he an unrestricted free agent?


restricted by Brooklyn but if they sign Kyrie and another FA, they have to renounce his rights. They may anyways since DLO indicated that he didn't want Kyrie.
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Post#1885 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:37 am

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K-DOT wrote:Like, okay, let's look at this in the next few years

Nobody really good is available in 2020. Maybe AD if he goes to free agency, but I doubt it, and I'm not betting he'd choose us. So we can't get a FA to pair with KD for 21

2021, KD comes back, and his team is a bunch of kids. Absolute best case scenario if he comes back completely the same player with no affects from the achilles, we're maybe, maybe a 43 win team, first round loss. Then, even if a top free agent wants to come, we have to make significant cuts to the youth we've been developing to fit them around KD's cap hold. And now KD is entering the season at 33, and even assuming the injury didn't affect him, he's gonna start declining at some rate. So if we look long term, we need to sign a top FA in 2021 or else we end up in a situation where KD's contract overlaps with the kids getting new deals, which means we don't have any space to bolster the roster, and we end up middling until KD leaves and the kids come into their primes

There's nothing to gain by signing him at this point, even if he pulls a Nique

Mitch is signed for 3 years for cheap, RJ would be on a rookie deal still.
Frank might be gone. We don’t know what progression Knox & DSJr will have. We don’t know who we drafting next year.

Dotson and Trier expire at the end of the coming season. Mitch, Frank and DSJ in summer 2021.
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Post#1886 » by ibraheim718 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:37 am

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drekwins wrote:
I think that DLO is going to happen lol It fits with the youth movement. This board is going to go NUTS. I'm not sure where we'll go from there. Any other young guys on the market?


Is he an unrestricted free agent?

restricted


They ain't letting him go. Scratch him.
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Post#1887 » by SelbyCobra » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:37 am

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BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:Don't Beal got a lifetime minutes restriction or something??
He's a baller tho.

Lifetime minute restriction. Lol that sounds horrible but I think you’re right.


I remember the same thing after the stress reaction in his leg. It was going to be chronic and he could have a minutes restriction for the rest of his career.

But the other day I was looking up data on a lot of the guys in the headlines lately and ran into a stat that blew my mind, probably more than anything I've seen this year - here is the total minutes played leaderboard for this past season:

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Post#1888 » by F N 11 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:37 am

TheGreenArrow wrote:Damn roc nation represents kd also....

Kleiman left
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amit wrote:Frank prime will be like 10 ppg. Hes not that kind of PG and we knew it since he got drafted. Thats why scorers players around frank will be the bast for him
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast. 

Post#1889 » by AllanHoustonFan » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:38 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
AllanHoustonFan wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:
Is he an unrestricted free agent?

restricted


They ain't letting him go. Scratch him.

They are going to have to if their intentions are to sign two max cats
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast. 

Post#1890 » by drekwins » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:38 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
AllanHoustonFan wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:
Is he an unrestricted free agent?

restricted


They ain't letting him go. Scratch him.


They don't have a choice if they sign Jimmy Butler or Harris. They'll have to renounce his cap hold.
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Post#1891 » by K-DOT » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:38 am

DowNY wrote:
K-DOT wrote:Like, okay, let's look at this in the next few years

Nobody really good is available in 2020. Maybe AD if he goes to free agency, but I doubt it, and I'm not betting he'd choose us. So we can't get a FA to pair with KD for 21

2021, KD comes back, and his team is a bunch of kids. Absolute best case scenario if he comes back completely the same player with no affects from the achilles, we're maybe, maybe a 43 win team, first round loss. Then, even if a top free agent wants to come, we have to make significant cuts to the youth we've been developing to fit them around KD's cap hold. And now KD is entering the season at 33, and even assuming the injury didn't affect him, he's gonna start declining at some rate. So if we look long term, we need to sign a top FA in 2021 or else we end up in a situation where KD's contract overlaps with the kids getting new deals, which means we don't have any space to bolster the roster, and we end up middling until KD leaves and the kids come into their primes

There's nothing to gain by signing him at this point, even if he pulls a Nique

Mitch is signed for 3 years for cheap, RJ would be on a rookie deal still.
Frank might be gone. We don’t know what progression Knox & DSJr will have. We don’t know who we drafting next year.

Frank and DSJ will have to be gone if we want a max FA in 2021. Both will have cap holds of 15 mil. And Mitch will have to be re-signed that year too, because if we pick up his 4th year, he becomes an unrestricted free agent

We have less flexibility than you think, and again, this is assuming KD doesn't drop off at all
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Post#1892 » by Jay10 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:38 am

BowlRips wrote:Knicks have been resigned to the fact that Kyrie is going to Brooklyn

or they didn't want him.
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Post#1893 » by SARGO127 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:38 am

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DowNY wrote:
K-DOT wrote:Like, okay, let's look at this in the next few years

Nobody really good is available in 2020. Maybe AD if he goes to free agency, but I doubt it, and I'm not betting he'd choose us. So we can't get a FA to pair with KD for 21

2021, KD comes back, and his team is a bunch of kids. Absolute best case scenario if he comes back completely the same player with no affects from the achilles, we're maybe, maybe a 43 win team, first round loss. Then, even if a top free agent wants to come, we have to make significant cuts to the youth we've been developing to fit them around KD's cap hold. And now KD is entering the season at 33, and even assuming the injury didn't affect him, he's gonna start declining at some rate. So if we look long term, we need to sign a top FA in 2021 or else we end up in a situation where KD's contract overlaps with the kids getting new deals, which means we don't have any space to bolster the roster, and we end up middling until KD leaves and the kids come into their primes

There's nothing to gain by signing him at this point, even if he pulls a Nique

Mitch is signed for 3 years for cheap, RJ would be on a rookie deal still.
Frank might be gone. We don’t know what progression Knox & DSJr will have. We don’t know who we drafting next year.

Dotson and Trier expire at the end of the coming season. Mitch, Frank and DSJ in summer 2021.


Mitch can’t hit FA until 2022. Why do people keep saying 2021?
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast. 

Post#1894 » by WargamesX » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:39 am

With all this talk of Kyrie and Tobias to Brooklyn. DLo.... being available is a thing.

Could he work next to RJ, Knox, and Mitch?
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Post#1895 » by AllanHoustonFan » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:39 am

Jay10 wrote:
BowlRips wrote:Knicks have been resigned to the fact that Kyrie is going to Brooklyn

or they didn't want him.

Knicks want him contingent on KD signing here.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast. 

Post#1896 » by TheGreenArrow » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:40 am

F N 11 wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:Damn roc nation represents kd also....

Kleiman left


You are correct my man...

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Post#1897 » by ibraheim718 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:40 am

drekwins wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:
AllanHoustonFan wrote:restricted


They ain't letting him go. Scratch him.


They don't have a choice if they sign Jimmy Butler or Harris. They'll have to renounce his cap hold.


I think Butler and Harris both go back to Philly
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Post#1898 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:40 am

WargamesX wrote:With all this talk of Kyrie and Tobias to Brooklyn. DLo.... being available is a thing.

Could he work next to RJ, Knox, and Mitch?

They gon’ come for you.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast. 

Post#1899 » by K-DOT » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:40 am

SARGO127 wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
DowNY wrote:Mitch is signed for 3 years for cheap, RJ would be on a rookie deal still.
Frank might be gone. We don’t know what progression Knox & DSJr will have. We don’t know who we drafting next year.

Dotson and Trier expire at the end of the coming season. Mitch, Frank and DSJ in summer 2021.


Mitch can’t hit FA until 2022. Why do people keep saying 2021?

4th year is a team option

If we pick it up, he's an unrestricted free agent in 2022

If we decline it, he's a restricted free agent in 2021

Meaning we could keep him an extra year for cheap, but he can just f*ck off if he wants at age 23
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Post#1900 » by newyorker4ever » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:40 am

TheGreenArrow wrote:Shout out to bowlrips he said kyrie to the nets is a done deal about a week ago...


I said he was gonna go there about 2 weeks ago and said he'd get J.Butler or T.Harris to go with him.

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