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Offseason Thread - Now it's everyone's offseason

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What should we do?

**** 2019. Keep rebuilding.
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Sign KD and Punt
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Try for KD AND Kawhi first and rebuild if not
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Sign Young High Level Starters
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Sign KD and Additional Players
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Re: Offseason Thread - Now it's everyone's offseason 

Post#1061 » by snadler » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:33 am

When the Knicks hired Fiz you think he was thinking the rebuild was going to last for more than a year or when he was quoted as saying we are going to be hated again he was optimistic
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Re: Offseason Thread - Now it's everyone's offseason 

Post#1062 » by Knicksfan1992 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:33 am

3toheadmelo wrote:DSJ > Lonzo


They're different. They'd actually complement each other really well. Lonzo has always thrived as a quick decision ball mover with another lead guard with him. LA was foolish (pre LeBron) to let Russell go. Him and Lonzo would have made a ton of sense together. They got stuck thinking both played the same position when really Lonzo is a ball handling wing in his best form.
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Re: Offseason Thread - Now it's everyone's offseason 

Post#1063 » by ophdog » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:34 am

So we have to use our cap space to reach the floor. Outside of kawhi coming is there any doubt now we need to sign Kd and wait and let the kids develop another year
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Re: Offseason Thread - Now it's everyone's offseason 

Post#1064 » by AggO » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:35 am

whoever thinks lonzo is such an upgrade over DSJ that hes worth swapping 3 for 4 pick needs to be shot
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Re: Offseason Thread - Now it's everyone's offseason 

Post#1065 » by Knicksfan1992 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:35 am

ophdog wrote:So we have to use our cap space to reach the floor. Outside of kawhi coming is there any doubt now we need to sign Kd and wait and let the kids develop another year


No we dont... we could sign no one but minimum deal guys and the difference will just get paid to the players. Knicks wouldn't violate any rules doing that.
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Re: Offseason Thread - Now it's everyone's offseason 

Post#1066 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:35 am

snadler wrote:When the Knicks hired Fiz you think he was thinking the rebuild was going to last for more than a year or when he was quoted as saying we are going to be hated again he was optimistic

He's talked about the Sixers a lot since the beginning of the season, so I'm rather sure he knew the possibilities.
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Re: Offseason Thread - Now it's everyone's offseason 

Post#1067 » by Knick4Real » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:35 am

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BeagleBoss wrote:I swear some here just want a young team for the sake of having a young team. Even though the young players are not that good. :weird:


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THEY want a real rebuild the right way
The other way hasn’t worked worked in 40 years!


There is no "right" way, otherwise, every team would follow Step 1, Step 2, Step 3 and instantly win a championship. Except, that's not how it works.

The "right" way is setting yourself up for a year like this when a rare FA class comes along and you're in the position to grab one and bring your franchise back to relevancy. Fortunately, we did that -- then the KD injury happened. Now, we just need some luck.

I support anyone who suits up in a KNICKS jersey -- but for anyone cheering DSJr, Trier, and Frank as a good thing by themselves and that somehow they alone will be a joy to watch, well, I say: :noway:
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Re: Offseason Thread - Now it's everyone's offseason 

Post#1068 » by god shammgod » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:36 am

AggO wrote:whoever thinks lonzo is such an upgrade over DSJ that hes worth swapping 3 for 4 pick needs to be shot


jesus :lol:
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Re: Offseason Thread - Now it's everyone's offseason 

Post#1069 » by SARGO127 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:36 am

DowNY wrote:
SARGO127 wrote:I’m just pissed because I feel like the Lakers got him for free, not because we didn’t trade for AD

For free how? By keeping Kuzma?
They traded everything else.
Ball, Ingram, Hart, 4th pick, the rights to their next 6 1st rd picks.....
They don’t even have Zubac anymore.


Rights to the next 6 picks? Can you explain? Because they can’t trade consecutive picks?
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Re: Offseason Thread - Now it's everyone's offseason 

Post#1070 » by Knox » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:37 am

Knick4Real wrote:
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The other way hasn’t worked worked in 40 years!


There is no "right" way, otherwise, every team would follow Step 1, Step 2, Step 3 and instantly win a championship. Except, that's not how it works.

The "right" way is setting yourself up for a year like this when a rare FA class comes along and you're in the position to grab one and bring your franchise back to relevancy. Fortunately, we did that -- then the KD injury happened. Now, we just need some luck.

I support anyone who suits up in a KNICKS jersey -- but for anyone cheering DSJr, Trier, and Frank as a good thing by themselves and that somehow they alone will be a joy to watch, well, I say: :noway:


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Re: Offseason Thread - Now it's everyone's offseason 

Post#1071 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:38 am

AggO wrote:whoever thinks lonzo is such an upgrade over DSJ that hes worth swapping 3 for 4 pick needs to be shot

You coulda found a better way of expressing that bro.
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Re: Offseason Thread - Now it's everyone's offseason 

Post#1072 » by ophdog » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:39 am

Knicksfan1992 wrote:
ophdog wrote:So we have to use our cap space to reach the floor. Outside of kawhi coming is there any doubt now we need to sign Kd and wait and let the kids develop another year


No we dont... we could sign no one but minimum deal guys and the difference will just get paid to the players. Knicks wouldn't violate any rules doing that.


Which is better than giving than betting one of the best players in the world recovers and is still good?
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Re: Offseason Thread - Now it's everyone's offseason 

Post#1073 » by Fat Kat » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:39 am

AggO wrote:whoever thinks lonzo is such an upgrade over DSJ that hes worth swapping 3 for 4 pick needs to be shot


Aggressive but warranted
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Re: Offseason Thread - Now it's everyone's offseason 

Post#1074 » by ophdog » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:40 am

SARGO127 wrote:
DowNY wrote:
SARGO127 wrote:I’m just pissed because I feel like the Lakers got him for free, not because we didn’t trade for AD

For free how? By keeping Kuzma?
They traded everything else.
Ball, Ingram, Hart, 4th pick, the rights to their next 6 1st rd picks.....
They don’t even have Zubac anymore.


Rights to the next 6 picks? Can you explain? Because they can’t trade consecutive picks?


They have pick swaps on the other picks
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Re: Offseason Thread - Now it's everyone's offseason 

Post#1075 » by god shammgod » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:40 am

Fat Kat wrote:
AggO wrote:whoever thinks lonzo is such an upgrade over DSJ that hes worth swapping 3 for 4 pick needs to be shot


Aggressive but warranted


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Re: Offseason Thread - Now it's everyone's offseason 

Post#1076 » by SelbyCobra » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:40 am

I'm upset the Knicks didn't get Davis. He works a few doors down the hall from a healthy KD or Kawhi, but is still one of the few guys in the league who even has an office on that cornerstone floor, in my opinion.

I'm excited the Knicks retain Mitch, the 3rd overall pick this year, a handful of talented but thus far middling/unimpressive infant prospects, and the Mavs unprotected 2021.
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Re: Offseason Thread - Now it's everyone's offseason 

Post#1077 » by DowNY » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:41 am

So... now we got Kyrie’s “close friend” teasing at Kyrie joining the Lakers now

& we got Kawhi’s cousin & sister liking and commenting on Kawhi to Lakers photoshopped pics on IG.

Also reports of Kemba. Lmao
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Re: Offseason Thread - Now it's everyone's offseason 

Post#1078 » by BBALLER4FR » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:41 am

TheGreenArrow wrote:
Read on Twitter


This guys a **** clown man.

**** the whole media.

He ain't lying though. I hate him but there's truth behind the dagger.
Sooooo..ummmm.....we tanking again or what?
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Re: Offseason Thread - Now it's everyone's offseason 

Post#1079 » by god shammgod » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:43 am

DowNY wrote:So... now we got Kyrie’s “close friend” teasing at Kyrie joining the Lakers now

& we got Kawhi’s cousin & sister liking and commenting on Kawhi to Lakers photoshopped pics on IG.

Also reports of Kemba. Lmao


i mean, if you join durant you gotta wait a year and hope he recovers. they're the west favorite right now without even doing anything else. if you're a free agent you gotta consider them strongly.
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Re: Offseason Thread - Now it's everyone's offseason 

Post#1080 » by Cookies4Life » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:44 am

I like Lonzo, he's an excellent playmaker, can run the fastbreak and is an above average defender. He's not a good shooter and awful at the FT line which is very concerning. His father isn't as bad as people are making him out to be, he quieted down a lot this past season.

If DSJ wasn't on this team than it would be enticing to go after Lonzo. Also Frank might play spot minutes as the backup 1 so there's no point for someone like Lonzo on this team. If he was a deadeye shooter, than I can get on board.

TBH I like the idea of pairing Frank and Lonzo together as our starting backcourt. They're both quite tall and both plus defenders. If either of them could develop a shot than that pairing would work very well together.

As far as the AD trade, the Lakers gave up 2 recent #2 pick selections, Hart who is a decent backup and a bunch of draft picks. It didn't look like any other team were willing to give up much for a potential 1 year rental of AD, so the Pels actually did quite well for themselves given the circumstances.

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