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Summer League Thread // Schedule Released: Zion vs RJ July 5th

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Re: Summer League Thread // Schedule Released: Zion vs RJ July 5th 

Post#41 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:57 am

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Post#42 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:03 pm

So, the confirmed SL players so far are

Knox
Trier
Mitch
(all 3 for unknown number of games)

RJ
WiggyB
Wilkes

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Lamar Peters (undrafted)
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Post#43 » by F N 11 » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:04 pm

ny-n-md wrote:If Frank plays, then why not DSJ? They’re from the same draft class separated by one pick. I don’t think either plays nor Dotson who was in the same draft.

You know what you getting from Dot you know what you getting from DSJ. Frank has not established anything and needs all the minutes with his teammates he can get. Perfect chance next to RJ.
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Post#44 » by camillepd » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:13 pm

According to this article Lamar Peters could be elite:

http://www.reflector-online.com/sports/article_e1d2a910-5637-11e9-8ee3-9bcdceda0f27.htmlters could be elite:
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Post#45 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:13 pm

Damn. Peters sets his feet really fast and gets his shot up really fast, with range and accuracy

I think he sticks in the league

Also, that handle keeps defenders off balance and they have to respect his shot.

I dunno - there are guys with way better scouting eyes than me, but it just seems like he has "it"

Maybe WiggyB is this years "Mitch" and Peters is this years "Trier"

*edit* - based on that article, even though he's a junior, maybe still needs to sort out his decision making a bit. Sounds like another guy, what was his name? Oh year, Trier.

Peters might be more likely to be G-League bound, but feels like he could emerge from there.
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Post#46 » by MaseInYourFace » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:17 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:So, the confirmed SL players so far are

Knox
Trier
Mitch
(all 3 for unknown number of games)

RJ
WiggyB
Wilkes

Zak Irvin (GLeague Knicks)
Lamar Peters (undrafted)
Tyler Cavanaugh (unaffiliated GLeague guy)


What about the D2 kid?
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Post#47 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:18 pm

MaseInYourFace wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:So, the confirmed SL players so far are

Knox
Trier
Mitch
(all 3 for unknown number of games)

RJ
WiggyB
Wilkes

Zak Irvin (GLeague Knicks)
Lamar Peters (undrafted)
Tyler Cavanaugh (unaffiliated GLeague guy)


What about the D2 kid?


Good catch


Knox
Trier
Mitch
(all 3 for unknown number of games)

RJ
WiggyB
Wilkes (undrafted)
Austin (undrafted)

Zak Irvin (GLeague Knicks)
Lamar Peters (undrafted)
Tyler Cavanaugh (unaffiliated GLeague guy)[/quote]
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Re: Summer League Thread // Schedule Released: Zion vs RJ July 5th 

Post#48 » by Fat Kat » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:20 pm

ny-n-md wrote:I can’t wait for the first game. Not only will the rookies play, but I want to see Mitch vs Hayes. Will Mitch block Zion at the rim? Mitch will have his hands full this game but he’s such a high motor athlete he’ll still have impact. Should be fun.


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Post#49 » by MaseInYourFace » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:21 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Damn. Peters sets his feet really fast and gets his shot up really fast, with range and accuracy

I think he sticks in the league

Also, that handle keeps defenders off balance and they have to respect his shot.

I dunno - there are guys with way better scouting eyes than me, but it just seems like he has "it"

Maybe WiggyB is this years "Mitch" and Peters is this years "Trier"

*edit* - based on that article, even though he's a junior, maybe still needs to sort out his decision making a bit. Sounds like another guy, what was his name? Oh year, Trier.

Peters might be more likely to be G-League bound, but feels like he could emerge from there.


I can usually tell pretty quickly watching a guy why he wasn’t picked. I can’t really tell with this guy. Would have to dig deeper.
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Post#50 » by ny-n-md » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:24 pm

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ny-n-md wrote:If Frank plays, then why not DSJ? They’re from the same draft class separated by one pick. I don’t think either plays nor Dotson who was in the same draft.

You know what you getting from Dot you know what you getting from DSJ. Frank has not established anything and needs all the minutes with his teammates he can get. Perfect chance next to RJ.

I agree, but DSJ gets a lot of hate on these parts while Frank still has supporters. I think it is very telling on how people really feel to not include DSJ while suggesting Frank plays. We all know he can ball. I really hope they both pan out. 2 different types of players that complement each other.
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Post#51 » by MaseInYourFace » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:25 pm

MaseInYourFace wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Damn. Peters sets his feet really fast and gets his shot up really fast, with range and accuracy

I think he sticks in the league

Also, that handle keeps defenders off balance and they have to respect his shot.

I dunno - there are guys with way better scouting eyes than me, but it just seems like he has "it"

Maybe WiggyB is this years "Mitch" and Peters is this years "Trier"

*edit* - based on that article, even though he's a junior, maybe still needs to sort out his decision making a bit. Sounds like another guy, what was his name? Oh year, Trier.

Peters might be more likely to be G-League bound, but feels like he could emerge from there.


I can usually tell pretty quickly watching a guy why he wasn’t picked. I can’t really tell with this guy. Would have to dig deeper.


Ohh he’s very small! He looked taller in the tape.
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Post#52 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:26 pm

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MaseInYourFace wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Damn. Peters sets his feet really fast and gets his shot up really fast, with range and accuracy

I think he sticks in the league

Also, that handle keeps defenders off balance and they have to respect his shot.

I dunno - there are guys with way better scouting eyes than me, but it just seems like he has "it"

Maybe WiggyB is this years "Mitch" and Peters is this years "Trier"

*edit* - based on that article, even though he's a junior, maybe still needs to sort out his decision making a bit. Sounds like another guy, what was his name? Oh year, Trier.

Peters might be more likely to be G-League bound, but feels like he could emerge from there.


I can usually tell pretty quickly watching a guy why he wasn’t picked. I can’t really tell with this guy. Would have to dig deeper.


Ohh he’s very small! He looked taller in the tape.


Yup, height is an issue. But guys like Van Fleet recently, Nate Rob earlier - sometimes they make it.
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Post#53 » by Fat Kat » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:31 pm

ny-n-md wrote:
F N 11 wrote:
ny-n-md wrote:If Frank plays, then why not DSJ? They’re from the same draft class separated by one pick. I don’t think either plays nor Dotson who was in the same draft.

You know what you getting from Dot you know what you getting from DSJ. Frank has not established anything and needs all the minutes with his teammates he can get. Perfect chance next to RJ.

I agree, but DSJ gets a lot of hate on these parts while Frank still has supporters. I think it is very telling on how people really feel to not include DSJ while suggesting Frank plays. We all know he can ball. I really hope they both pan out. 2 different types of players that complement each other.


My take is that these types of games give a player a boost in confidence. Frank might need that, while DSJr. doesn’t lack in that area at all.
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Post#54 » by MaseInYourFace » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:37 pm

I wouldn’t really play Trier unless you really stress to him to play more of a point role. Otherwise, pretty useless to have him there.
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Post#56 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:28 pm

A couple games should be good to get some reps in during the summer time. That's likely the extent of it. All of them gotta be hyped for the first game for sure.
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Post#57 » by robillionaire » Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:59 pm

RJ
Trier
Bradzingis
Knox
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Post#58 » by ny-n-md » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:01 pm

robillionaire wrote:RJ
Trier
Bradzingis
Knox
Mitch

Knox vs Zion will be a problem. That dude is super quick, strong and explosive. True test for Kev.
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Post#59 » by robillionaire » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:32 pm

ny-n-md wrote:
robillionaire wrote:RJ
Trier
Bradzingis
Knox
Mitch

Knox vs Zion will be a problem. That dude is super quick, strong and explosive. True test for Kev.


yeah. zion vs anybody will probably be a problem, we don't really have anyone with the size and muscle to check him.
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Post#60 » by F N 11 » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:37 pm

ny-n-md wrote:
F N 11 wrote:
ny-n-md wrote:If Frank plays, then why not DSJ? They’re from the same draft class separated by one pick. I don’t think either plays nor Dotson who was in the same draft.

You know what you getting from Dot you know what you getting from DSJ. Frank has not established anything and needs all the minutes with his teammates he can get. Perfect chance next to RJ.

I agree, but DSJ gets a lot of hate on these parts while Frank still has supporters. I think it is very telling on how people really feel to not include DSJ while suggesting Frank plays. We all know he can ball. I really hope they both pan out. 2 different types of players that complement each other.

My only argument is if Frank can get his 3 point shooting to respectable he may be a better fit next to RJ. Just because Frank is bigger and can guard the opposing teams best guard. However if DSJ takes a big leap it will be hard. I feel Dotson would be automatic and a staple too, my point is I actually have faith in these kids to get better and make Fiz’s job hard.
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