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K-DOT wrote:But the thing is, if we're using the Nets as an example, they didn't do what we're doing, not even close

They took on contracts for picks, built up long term depth, so when the stars were ready to sign, they had a decent team that would pretty much be the same team those stars would have around them. They went from worst in the league to 28 wins two years ago because that's how good their young guys were, to 42 wins last year, again because that's how good their young guys were

What we're doing is bringing together a bunch of depth that won't be here when we want to sign stars and not taking on bad contracts for picks. What are we getting out of the vets, 5, 6 more wins? And possibly stunting the growth of our young guys who are the guys we should be the supporting cast if a big name wants to come here. Giving Morris or Portis shots does literally nothing for us now or in the next few years

Y'all talk like if Kawhi or Giannis want to come here, these are the guys we'd be surrounding them with. But they're not, cause they're looking for bigger contracts and will be gone. So there's no point to signing guys like them to short term deals. Just let the kids develop, if we win 30 games, that's fine because it shows we're progressing, if we win 20 that's fine cause we'd still have cap space and get another top pick, if we win 40 games, that's outstanding cause it means our guys are super ahead of schedule and will be a super enticing core come 2021

But giving out short term deals to guys in their mid to late 20s who are just looking to put up numbers to get a big contract in a year or two that we can't afford to re-sign when we need role players is pointless right now

dakomish23 wrote:Would be far and away the 2nd best signing of the offseason.

Too bad we can’t undo all other ones besides Randle.

When is everyone going to play? We have a lot of kids who should be the priority. These FAs aren’t going to be happy just waiving towels.

bearadonisdna wrote:Hard not to ok this move because he may be better than Taj and Bobby but could play along side either one of them.
If he can play some small forward that's a huge plus because he could fit into a lot of lineup and his baseline talent would be about as good as any other of the other small forwards.

Honestly doing everything to get the FC strong asf could really be beneficial. It would suck to miss out on opportunities and plus any of these guys could return if they are important to the rebuild.

HarthorneWingo wrote:

bearadonisdna wrote:Hard not to ok this move because he may be better than Taj and Bobby but could play along side either one of them.
If he can play some small forward that's a huge plus because he could fit into a lot of lineup and his baseline talent would be about as good as any other of the other small forwards.

Honestly doing everything to get the FC strong asf could really be beneficial. It would suck to miss out on opportunities and plus any of these guys could return if they are important to the rebuild.

Knicks front office has decided to go out and get players they think can help us win now without compromising the future. The added bonus with these signings is that each of these players has a chance to impress our front office and becoming a part of the future. Hopefully, this entices other players to look in our direction as well when looking to make a move.

bearadonisdna wrote:

HarthorneWingo wrote:

bearadonisdna wrote:Hard not to ok this move because he may be better than Taj and Bobby but could play along side either one of them.
If he can play some small forward that's a huge plus because he could fit into a lot of lineup and his baseline talent would be about as good as any other of the other small forwards.

Honestly doing everything to get the FC strong asf could really be beneficial. It would suck to miss out on opportunities and plus any of these guys could return if they are important to the rebuild.

Knicks front office has decided to go out and get players they think can help us win now without compromising the future. The added bonus with these signings is that each of these players has a chance to impress our front office and becoming a part of the future. Hopefully, this entices other players to look in our direction as well when looking to make a move.

Also They are team friendly contracts for quality depth.
There could be trades open at the deadline from a desperate team needing help.

dakomish23 wrote:Would be far and away the 2nd best signing of the offseason.

Too bad we can’t undo all other ones besides Randle.

When is everyone going to play? We have a lot of kids who should be the priority. These FAs aren’t going to be happy just waiving towels.

TBri1974 wrote:

dakomish23 wrote:Would be far and away the 2nd best signing of the offseason.

Too bad we can’t undo all other ones besides Randle.

When is everyone going to play? We have a lot of kids who should be the priority. These FAs aren’t going to be happy just waiving towels.

I would like Morris equally to Bullock. In Fact, assuming he recovers, I would have rather we had only signed Randle, Morris and Bullock. I am okay with Payton - although it clogs up the PG rotation - and not sure where Portis, Gibson and Ellington fit.

TBri1974 wrote:

dakomish23 wrote:Would be far and away the 2nd best signing of the offseason.

Too bad we can’t undo all other ones besides Randle.

When is everyone going to play? We have a lot of kids who should be the priority. These FAs aren’t going to be happy just waiving towels.

I would like Morris equally to Bullock. In Fact, assuming he recovers, I would have rather we had only signed Randle, Morris and Bullock. I am okay with Payton - although it clogs up the PG rotation - and not sure where Portis, Gibson and Ellington fit.

El Poochio wrote:Would be worse signing than Beasley cuz he is actually good does this team think they can actually make the playoffs? Delusional

35 years old Taj Gibson 30 years old Marcus Morris these signings make no sense for a team vying for draft if they want to change the culture they should start by not letting a problem child like Morris turn down from his word

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dakomish23 wrote:

TBri1974 wrote:

dakomish23 wrote:Would be far and away the 2nd best signing of the offseason.

Too bad we can’t undo all other ones besides Randle.

When is everyone going to play? We have a lot of kids who should be the priority. These FAs aren’t going to be happy just waiving towels.

I would like Morris equally to Bullock. In Fact, assuming he recovers, I would have rather we had only signed Randle, Morris and Bullock. I am okay with Payton - although it clogs up the PG rotation - and not sure where Portis, Gibson and Ellington fit.

At least with those 3 I could see a rotation that doesn’t block the majority of the kids. Knox takes a hit though

DSJ Frank
Dotson Trier
Morris Bullock Ignas
Randle Knox
Mitch

We’ll see how this plays out. I hope I’m wrong and we’re focused on the kids than playing these guys we signed to try to win some meaningless games