matchman wrote: Clyde_Style wrote:
blanko wrote:Harsh but real talk.
You guys in hk seem to think that you are under british rule.
You guys belong to a totalitarian socialist government now. These protests wont end well, the world will do nothing for you. Beijing could put all 7 million of you in maoist gulags and wont bat an eye. Look at what they are doing to the Uighurs.
Dont get this confused, these people so called cheering you on from the comfort of their western homes wont be in a torture cell next to you, they wont be in a gulag with you.
Stop messing with beijing. All you will accomplish by these process is speed up(not slow down) the mainlandification of H.K.
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I don't think anyone is here with rose colored glasses. It is clear they want to fight and who are we to tell anyone not to fight for their freedom? All I can do is wish them luck really. I believe they are quite aware of the consequences and have decided to take the risk of resistance.
To Blanko: Yes these youngsters are well assured that they are paying huge cost (freedom, time, future) to go for these fights. It is against dictatorship and some may even realize that Western society may do nothing after all. However people just do not want to lay down and accept defeat, yet. Or just become like the rest of that country called PRC. PRC propaganda is now declaring us as premature terrorists or individualism, bright words and they are trying to scare or fool around their own people. We are so far from that, but hey sometimes self-fulfilling prophecy works.
I know you are saying that out of worries, and thanks for that.
Clyde: Thanks for your continuous support. It is such a huge gamble against the strongest tyranny in the world. They have guns, money and those influence everywhere, that quite a portion of people around my age (I am 36 now) are considering moving to other countries. However it is so against my flavour. This superpower is just everywhere and all over the world. Unless I cut off all my roots, family, friends and everything I have built upon, otherwise there is simply no point doing so. These youngsters and all those people who have come out to demonstration, are giving me power during this time of struggle.
Honestly no idea how it will end, my wife keeps asking me this but I truly don't know.
I understand the desire to stay and fight, but if you have the means and decide it is time to leave I suggest you do what works for you and those closest to you and not have any shame about abandoning HK.
When you know you are in the middle of a major historical moment it is possible to be fully engaged without the full perspective about the consequences for your future on a heart level. You may know intellectually you are David vs. Goliath and are fighting perhaps enormous odds, but that is why parables like that exist, because sometimes David wins. The drama may keep you pulled into the events regardless of where it leads to in the future and you do need to take moments of complete alone time to contemplate your destiny in all of this.
However, if you feel you can afford to leave and know somewhere you can go to and re-establish yourself, it should be part of your calculations too. Many Jews should have left Germany, but they stayed behind because it was home. Nobody shakes a finger at them for leaving what turned into an oven.
So do the math and do what is best for you and your family in the end. One person can be a hero, but sometimes a family doesn't need a hero, they need a guardian. That's for you to decide, but if you stay and fight for your freedom I'll try to offer the little bit of moral support I can from this side of the world.
Good luck, Stay Safe