Re: OT: Hong Kong, China, United States and NBA
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:33 am
Sports is our Business
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1877970
god shammgod wrote:
And hong kong can turn into the mainland any time.E-Balla wrote:blanko wrote:China is committing genocide now on muslims. What the Israelis did to palestinians is going on times 2 in china.E-Balla wrote:Because even including the fact that their governor is elected people in Hong Kong have more rights than Puerto Ricans AND Americans?
https://www.cato.org/human-freedom-index-new
And for economic freedom specifically they're #1 in the world:
https://www.heritage.org/index/ranking
Most human right indexes that separate Hong Kong from China show they have more rights than we do. What good does a vote do if you have less rights outside of voting? Like for all the criticism of China here, how many people do you think American police would've killed by now if we had a race riot that lasted that long and got that violent? Sometimes it's easier to point fingers than to look at ourselves. Now none of this means what China's doing is good, just means that China isn't some boogeyman way worse than the US.
Sent from my SM-N960N using Tapatalk
We're discussing Hong Kong. Mainland China has separate issues completely.
blanko wrote:Puerto rico has the right to self determination. Independence, statehood, or keep thenstatus quo.MadGrinch wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:
That's all well and good, but, again, that is not what he was doing and what people were criticizing. If he framed it like you just did he might be considered differently right now, but he most decidedly did not just say his opinion is as valid as Morey's or anyone elses. He did the opposite.
And if his knowledge is as great as you claim it is, then show it when you enter the breach, don't puff up your chest about your great and infinite wisdom vs. the inferior knowledge of others and expect that to be sufficient. He showed us nothing about that supposed great knowledge, but he sure made a lot of pretense about it. That my friend is straight up azzhole behavior. If you see it differently, then so be it.
you know if you are the kind of person who takes umbrage at behavior rather than the message so be it .
i personally didn't take it that way and probably would be more understanding even if i did ,I saw him as speaking up for people (himself included) that were put in a hostile environment unnecessarily.
i have personally been in a situation where i'm in a foreign country and people don't have best feelings about where i've come from , its not the best situation to find yourself in .
and my situation was no where near what Lebron James clearly went through but i can empathize because i've been in this country and see how we can treat people who our govt. and citizens treat as an enemy even when they personally did nothing to deserve that treatment.
and I'll keep mentioning fighting for Hong Kong for rights we don't personally as a nation enjoy comes off as silly to me and wasted energy . I need people to explain the urgency that Hong Kong's rights come before actual Americans in the same boat?
Puerto Rico is in a similar situation as are most US territories ...PR has been in this situation for over 100 years ,
Why should any American feel pressure to speak up for Hong Kong before their own Americans?
which is it just feels like manufactured outrage .
Hong kong doesnt have any of those options.
Puerto rico has the right to elect its governors
Hong kongs governors are appointed by Beijing.
I mean how are these two situations even comparable?
Sent from my SM-N960N using Tapatalk
blanko wrote:https://youtu.be/g9QIETD4QV0
These asians never had true democracy how dare they demand for freedom?
Sent from my SM-N960N using Tapatalk
Blah blah, they never had democracy what makes them think they deserve it now?tuna108 wrote:This kid is going to get the noble peace prize some day. For those interested watch the documentary "Joshua " on netflix. he was 14 when he started. amazing.tuna108 wrote:Beijing ‘supports’ Hong Kong in banning activist Joshua Wong from upcoming local electionblanko wrote:https://youtu.be/g9QIETD4QV0
These asians never had true democracy how dare they demand for freedom?
Sent from my SM-N960N using Tapatalk
https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/10/30/beijing-supports-hong-kong-banning-activist-joshua-wong-upcoming-local-election/
Stay safe Matchman. Bad day today, will likely get worse, leading to cancelation of Nov 24 election.matchman wrote:Things are getting a lot worse. This morning there is a campaign to block the traffic and a strike in Nov 11.
Now these bastard cops just shoot in the street without reasons. 3 rounds and 2 down shooting unarmed people.
?s=09
watching it unfold live now. Heartbreaking.matchman wrote:
Table and mattress used as shield by CUHK students to defend against tear gas (by hand throw grenade and shotgun), rubber bullet and freakin' 0.38 pistol bullets.
BallSacBounce wrote:Where is that policeman's sense of humanity? Pepper sprayed for holding up a card with I guess some kind of message written on it.
Another difficult day for HK. Stay safe all. Hopefully magically things get resolved for the day.matchman wrote:https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-protests-usa-idUSKBN1XO2EU
Two senior U.S. senators began a process on Thursday for the U.S. Senate to quickly pass legislation that would place Hong Kong's special treatment by the United States under extra scrutiny, a sign of support for pro-democracy protesters in the Chinese-ruled city.
U.S. Senators Jim Risch, the Republican chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and Marco Rubio, a senior member of the panel, want to pass the "Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act" by unanimous voice vote.
The legislation would require the secretary of state to certify at least once a year that Hong Kong still retains enough autonomy to warrant the special U.S. trading consideration that bolsters its status as a world financial center.