Slicin N Dicin wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:Slicin N Dicin wrote:It's like Melo slept with some of y'all wives or moms the way you guys still talk about him....
Melo will always be considered one of the great players of his generation, is a surefire HOF'er. Those are facts.
Sure, he could've done some things different, but tell me which NBA player couldn't?
I don't recall a player touted to be as great as Melo to show as little ability to adapt their game as they aged as Melo.
He became a one-trick pony in a multi-dimensional game.
Greatness is a word that gets used glibly to describe a player with low-efficiency stats.
He was great at what exactly?
Scoring less efficiently than the majority of the league?
His stats were the result of high usage, not actual greatness.
He could have been a great player, but he's an idiot and great players are by definition never as dumb as Melo.
Great as referred to by almost all of his peers. Yes, Melo's greatest asset was his scoring, and people like to point out high usage/low efficiency. That was a result of the lack of talent around him. We saw the Knicks teams that were around him, even the Nuggets team's that he had weren't very well built. And when he did have those well built teams around him, we saw what he could do and where those teams could go (09' Nugs, 13' Knicks for example.)
You can't fault a player for playing with what they got. I know people like to blame him for the teams that were built around him, but that is on the FO of those organizations, not the player.
You may not like his mentality, you may not like what he was great at..BUT..he will be remembered as a great player and one of the better ones of this generation.
He came in as a rookie and turned around the Nugs franchise making them a tough team in a very tough west. He scored with the best of them and crashed the boards. He could defend when he wanted to (now that's another arguement about whether he should want to at all times) but the fact of the matter is, he excelled at what he did and is not the bum player many of you want to make him out to be.
Need to be objective when ranking players and take out personal bias or what stats or analytics you view as favorable.
We can agree to disagree on Melo however.
You have not come to terms with the truth that Melo's place in basketball history is so deeply tarnished at this point that he will NOT be remembered in 30 years as one of the greats of this past 15 years. You're clearly a rational poster, yet you are still trapped in the Melo Delusion and I'll never understand this cult built around a profoundly stupid player like Melo. He is the worst star of all time and no amount of stroking will ever make up for his fall from grace which is what he will be remembered for years removed from now. Yes, we'll have to disagree on this one.
