Re: Enes Kanter interview with Howard Beck
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:06 pm
Hey Kanter you're still upset cause your minutes were absorbed by this rookie?
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Hes_On_Fire wrote:I could already guess the reactions to this interview before opening the thread because 1. It's Kanter, who people have some weird obsession with hating when he's just a role player and 2. He insults the Lord and Savior frontman for JD and the Straightshot.
Kanter is not the first nor the last active/former player to make statements about ownership.
“I had no problem with my teammates. I was so cool with my teammates,” Kanter said. “I had a conversation with them. But I am a basketball player going out there to compete, I am going to try to win no matter what. That is just in my blood… And if someone — I’m not telling you the Knicks told me to do this — but if somebody is telling me the opposite, I’m not going to listen. My job is to go out there and play as hard as I can. Because the fans are paying so much money to come and see the game. Especially the Garden. My problem I guess that I wanted to win. Something that didn’t make sense is they told me I’m too old to play, and I was 26, and I was like, that doesn’t make sense. Then they bring in a guy four or five years older than me and they start playing him, I’m like, this doesn’t make sense. We had some stuff going on with the Knicks but I wish them the best.”
god shammgod wrote:kanter out here dry snitching“I had no problem with my teammates. I was so cool with my teammates,” Kanter said. “I had a conversation with them. But I am a basketball player going out there to compete, I am going to try to win no matter what. That is just in my blood… And if someone — I’m not telling you the Knicks told me to do this — but if somebody is telling me the opposite, I’m not going to listen. My job is to go out there and play as hard as I can. Because the fans are paying so much money to come and see the game. Especially the Garden. My problem I guess that I wanted to win. Something that didn’t make sense is they told me I’m too old to play, and I was 26, and I was like, that doesn’t make sense. Then they bring in a guy four or five years older than me and they start playing him, I’m like, this doesn’t make sense. We had some stuff going on with the Knicks but I wish them the best.”
Capn'O wrote:god shammgod wrote:kanter out here dry snitching“I had no problem with my teammates. I was so cool with my teammates,” Kanter said. “I had a conversation with them. But I am a basketball player going out there to compete, I am going to try to win no matter what. That is just in my blood… And if someone — I’m not telling you the Knicks told me to do this — but if somebody is telling me the opposite, I’m not going to listen. My job is to go out there and play as hard as I can. Because the fans are paying so much money to come and see the game. Especially the Garden. My problem I guess that I wanted to win. Something that didn’t make sense is they told me I’m too old to play, and I was 26, and I was like, that doesn’t make sense. Then they bring in a guy four or five years older than me and they start playing him, I’m like, this doesn’t make sense. We had some stuff going on with the Knicks but I wish them the best.”
Knicks logo on the tank and Kanter's face on the cat needed.
Kanter's a nut but the Knicks definitely have a Dolan perception problem. He's not the first to say it.
god shammgod wrote:Capn'O wrote:god shammgod wrote:kanter out here dry snitching
Knicks logo on the tank and Kanter's face on the cat needed.
Kanter's a nut but the Knicks definitely have a Dolan perception problem. He's not the first to say it.
the article admits that dolan is never really around though. but people, and the media, keep repeating this so it perpetuates.
Capn'O wrote:god shammgod wrote:Capn'O wrote:
Knicks logo on the tank and Kanter's face on the cat needed.
Kanter's a nut but the Knicks definitely have a Dolan perception problem. He's not the first to say it.
the article admits that dolan is never really around though. but people, and the media, keep repeating this so it perpetuates.
Right. And Kanter's point even seems to be that it may be more of a perception because he didn't feel Dolan's presence with the team.
If he doesn't sell, the only way it goes away is for the team to not do stupid **** for a few years and eventually start winning. Seems easy enough, right? Just look at every transaction with the lens that if it's **** stupid you shouldn't do it.
god shammgod wrote:Capn'O wrote:god shammgod wrote:
the article admits that dolan is never really around though. but people, and the media, keep repeating this so it perpetuates.
Right. And Kanter's point even seems to be that it may be more of a perception because he didn't feel Dolan's presence with the team.
If he doesn't sell, the only way it goes away is for the team to not do stupid **** for a few years and eventually start winning. Seems easy enough, right? Just look at every transaction with the lens that if it's **** stupid you shouldn't do it.
it's easy to not do stupid sh*t, it's hard to actually win though. if winning means being a real contender. otherwise everyone would tear it down, wait 3 or 4 years and now they're automatically great. luck is way more a factor than anyone seems to ever recognize when it comes to success in the nba. it's not a coincidence that the only long period of success since the 70s for the knicks came when they got lucky in the ewing draft.
but even if you mean just playing .500 basketball while keeping cap flexibility, that too is hard. because you're constantly changing players and letting guys go. if the clippers couldn't convince okc to part with george, they're in the lottery this year. they'd be a losing team. we might look at this collection of young talent a few years from now and realize that it's not good enough and need to let a lot of them go instead of being capped out and mediocre. we could do nothing stupid and be back down at the bottom. because going back down to the bottom might be smart at that time.
everyone on here seems to think they could run the knicks and be a great success easily but the truth is, it's really hard.
Capn'O wrote:god shammgod wrote:Capn'O wrote:
Right. And Kanter's point even seems to be that it may be more of a perception because he didn't feel Dolan's presence with the team.
If he doesn't sell, the only way it goes away is for the team to not do stupid **** for a few years and eventually start winning. Seems easy enough, right? Just look at every transaction with the lens that if it's **** stupid you shouldn't do it.
it's easy to not do stupid sh*t, it's hard to actually win though. if winning means being a real contender. otherwise everyone would tear it down, wait 3 or 4 years and now they're automatically great. luck is way more a factor than anyone seems to ever recognize when it comes to success in the nba. it's not a coincidence that the only long period of success since the 70s for the knicks came when they got lucky in the ewing draft.
but even if you mean just playing .500 basketball while keeping cap flexibility, that too is hard. because you're constantly changing players and letting guys go. if the clippers couldn't convince okc to part with george, they're in the lottery this year. they'd be a losing team. we might look at this collection of young talent a few years from now and realize that it's not good enough and need to let a lot of them go instead of being capped out and mediocre. we could do nothing stupid and be back down at the bottom. because going back down to the bottom might be smart at that time.
everyone on here seems to think they could run the knicks and be a great success easily but the truth is, it's really hard.
I'm talking about the latter. If we simply avoid the the Bargs, Timmys, Eddy Currys, and Noahs of the world and hit .500 for a few years I think all the noise about the owner will stop. It did for a minute when Melo was good until we did that Bargs deal.
I get it that running a successful franchise is hard but the Knicks did some really stupid ****. Like REALLY stupid.
god shammgod wrote:Capn'O wrote:god shammgod wrote:
it's easy to not do stupid sh*t, it's hard to actually win though. if winning means being a real contender. otherwise everyone would tear it down, wait 3 or 4 years and now they're automatically great. luck is way more a factor than anyone seems to ever recognize when it comes to success in the nba. it's not a coincidence that the only long period of success since the 70s for the knicks came when they got lucky in the ewing draft.
but even if you mean just playing .500 basketball while keeping cap flexibility, that too is hard. because you're constantly changing players and letting guys go. if the clippers couldn't convince okc to part with george, they're in the lottery this year. they'd be a losing team. we might look at this collection of young talent a few years from now and realize that it's not good enough and need to let a lot of them go instead of being capped out and mediocre. we could do nothing stupid and be back down at the bottom. because going back down to the bottom might be smart at that time.
everyone on here seems to think they could run the knicks and be a great success easily but the truth is, it's really hard.
I'm talking about the latter. If we simply avoid the the Bargs, Timmys, Eddy Currys, and Noahs of the world and hit .500 for a few years I think all the noise about the owner will stop. It did for a minute when Melo was good until we did that Bargs deal.
I get it that running a successful franchise is hard but the Knicks did some really stupid ****. Like REALLY stupid.
we did do some stupid stuff in the past. no denying. i'm just talking about from here on out. if one or two of these picks don't tun to all-stars and no big time free agent comes, we could be tearing this down in just a couple years again. dotson & trier need to be paid after this year. frank and dennis after the next. and so one. all these free agents we signed have 2 year deals. reaching and maintaining 500 for multiple years isn't a given at all when there's gonna be a lot of roster turnover. not without a young superstar already on board.
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Gotta love the guys who don’t know they suck.
Chanel Bomber wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:robillionaire wrote:Imagine if he put the same effort that he does into social media and trolling the Knicks and trying to be a wrestler and parlayed all that time into practicing defense or guarding the pick and roll.
He was just reporting what other players have said. They all talk about this stuff amongst themselves. I’m glad he came out and said it. Maybe it’s another nail in Dolan’s coffin which will lead him to sell the team.
If he didn’t care, he wouldn’t have said anything. He did us a favor.
This is the worst possible time for Dolan to sell. We have a competent (or at least rational) FO that’s finally trying to rebuild through the draft and Dolan is not meddling, in fact he seems supportive of that rebuild and we know when the time comes he will be willing to spend dollars. I can live with the occasional embarrassing Dolan appearance in the news if we keep going in that direction. He seems to have learned from his mistakes basketball-wise.
Whoever buys the Knicks will have a huge ego and will try to impose his/her own ignorant vision and will be impatient to compete instantly and to show the world who’s the alpha in this thing. We don’t need another meddling owner ruining what could be a good thing, like what we saw in Houston this summer.
Free agents wouldn’t give a damn about Dolan if we had a winning product. The only reason they didn’t come here (with the exception of Amar’e) is because Miami in 2010 and Brooklyn in 2019 had just made the playoffs while we sucked.
DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:Well we havent put out a respectable team for over 5 years so of course the ownership gonna get blamed when you keep hiring the wrong people.
Why is this even a thread? Lol Perry and Fiz need to actually prove they can produce a solid basketball team then MAYBE stars will consider but until then nobody gonna wanna play for a tanking team.
If we are already established and producing a winning basketball team then players wont be as skittish as they would be to turn a whole franchise around and be the savior of NY. Thats alot to ask for from a player.