OT: Official KP Thread
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I love KP but our FO did the right thing by trading him and not giving him the Max. He might turn it around, but this would be a media **** show if he was playing like this in NY.
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The Knicks should’ve kept KP away from his brothers?
FOH!
Fawk KP, his brothers and anyone down with him.
FOH!
Fawk KP, his brothers and anyone down with him.
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Re: KP's A Maverick And I Spoke It Into Existence
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King of Canada wrote:MrOrange wrote:ChaosHamster wrote:
Do you have any source about that Janis stuff?
Look, people talk and many know one another. Particularly in the balling community. We are a 2 million nation, many people know one another, right? If you ask me for a link, then I would not be able to provide it, so you will have to trust my word on this. It is kind of the same as the whole story with KP's brawl during this summer. All there was that KP and his company was attacked by a well-known gang with criminal records. Everybody knew it, yet some folks here made a big deal out of it and blamed KP.
Hey man, it’s great to hear from anybody in the Latvian community. There was and is a ton of hate pointed toward KP and unfortunately some stupid things said about Latvia. I just want to say that I hope anybody that sees that stuff knows that it’s just online nonsense, and nobody means anything negative toward your country,
As for the comments about KP, fans are and will be hurt for a long time and KP does deserve a lot of the blame (nobody thinks it’s all on him). I wish he would have stuck it out, but he showed right from year one that he wasn’t made of NY stuff. He could have been a legend. The alabaster Ewing. We loved him even with his many faults. Either way, I hope he has a long career and I hope we can move along eventually. I don’t think that will happen though because I still miss Gallinari.
Speaking of gallo, I wonder if the Thunder would do Randle for Gallinari?
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I love KP but our FO did the right thing by trading him and not giving him the Max. He might turn it around, but this would be a media **** show if he was playing like this in NY.
Nobody is paying Morris the max. KP? Glad we're not paying him the Max.
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Fat Kat wrote:The Knicks should’ve kept KP away from his brothers?
FOH!
Fawk KP, his brothers and anyone down with him.
We all thought Phil was bonkers for talking of trading KP. He knew, and now I think we didn't realize he was right.
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Re: OT: Official KP Thread
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BKlutch wrote:Fat Kat wrote:The Knicks should’ve kept KP away from his brothers?
FOH!
Fawk KP, his brothers and anyone down with him.
We all thought Phil was bonkers for talking of trading KP. He knew, and now I think we didn't realize he was right.
I wanted to trade him when he skipped the exit meeting.
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Raps fan here, I didn't hate that kristaps trade for you guys. It seemed he wasn't playing for you guys going forward anyways, you opened up capspace for some potential max cats. If you hit on Zion, a superteam likely forms. You got a (pretty questionably talented) nba player and some picks, a fair return. Now it seems you have similar production from a cheaper guy. That said I guess the "unicorn" could turn into an absolute beast, but IMO that's far from a sure thing.
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like i keep saying, they didn't want him
“One thing he did say, a lot of things the press said, he felt like wasn’t true,’’ Burke said. “He feels like there was a narrative that got out about him, he couldn’t defend himself. I don’t know if [Dallas] told him not to talk that much, but he wasn’t talking. I do think he has his side.’’
Burke said he didn’t want to speak for Porzingis, but gave enough hints that events during his former teammate’s four-minute meeting with Knicks president Steve Mills and general manager Scott Perry changed his view forever.
“I don’t think he was happy at the time,’’ Burke told The Post in the most revealing testimony yet about Porzingis’ alleged trade demand. “But I do think he wanted to stay. I think something happened at the meeting. I don’t know everything. Going into the meeting, KP had one type of understanding. After the meeting, there was a 180.
“I know once Knicks management and KP had that meeting, KP was out of New York because of what was said. I think he went into the meeting hoping, like, ‘OK, what’s the plan for next year?’ And something went wrong in that meeting and it just blew up. And that was the end of Porzingis.”
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Of course they didn't want him. No player in his 4th year has the power to demand a trade. The CBA isn't built like that for players on their rookie deals. Every player signs his extension if offered. DeMarcus Cousins even signed with Sacramento, and he hated Sacramento from the bottom of his heart.
What probably really happened is a disagreement over his extension. He wanted a full max, and Merry Pills had no intention of giving him that. So they traded him so that he could get his money, and Perry could have DSJ, who he coveted.
What probably really happened is a disagreement over his extension. He wanted a full max, and Merry Pills had no intention of giving him that. So they traded him so that he could get his money, and Perry could have DSJ, who he coveted.
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god shammgod wrote:like i keep saying, they didn't want him
“One thing he did say, a lot of things the press said, he felt like wasn’t true,’’ Burke said. “He feels like there was a narrative that got out about him, he couldn’t defend himself. I don’t know if [Dallas] told him not to talk that much, but he wasn’t talking. I do think he has his side.’’
Burke said he didn’t want to speak for Porzingis, but gave enough hints that events during his former teammate’s four-minute meeting with Knicks president Steve Mills and general manager Scott Perry changed his view forever.
“I don’t think he was happy at the time,’’ Burke told The Post in the most revealing testimony yet about Porzingis’ alleged trade demand. “But I do think he wanted to stay. I think something happened at the meeting. I don’t know everything. Going into the meeting, KP had one type of understanding. After the meeting, there was a 180.
“I know once Knicks management and KP had that meeting, KP was out of New York because of what was said. I think he went into the meeting hoping, like, ‘OK, what’s the plan for next year?’ And something went wrong in that meeting and it just blew up. And that was the end of Porzingis.”
Odd to see a player speak out so candidly.
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Another Knicks bashing Marc Berman article that should be taken with a grain of salt.This guy has always done a poor job of trolling Knicks fans.
I think he would be more affective helping Stephon Marbury write his memoir than he would writing for a major NY newspaper.
I think he would be more affective helping Stephon Marbury write his memoir than he would writing for a major NY newspaper.
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Porzingis finally has the rebound numbers up to where you would respect him. He still needs to develop some kind of consistent inside game where he can use his size to advantage on nights when the long-distance game is off. He's missed a lot of development time and needs to catch up.
Not sure what management told him in that meeting, but their heads should be on the block after this latest disaster of a season. None of them are worth what they are getting paid.
Not sure what management told him in that meeting, but their heads should be on the block after this latest disaster of a season. None of them are worth what they are getting paid.
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god shammgod wrote:like i keep saying, they didn't want him
“One thing he did say, a lot of things the press said, he felt like wasn’t true,’’ Burke said. “He feels like there was a narrative that got out about him, he couldn’t defend himself. I don’t know if [Dallas] told him not to talk that much, but he wasn’t talking. I do think he has his side.’’
Burke said he didn’t want to speak for Porzingis, but gave enough hints that events during his former teammate’s four-minute meeting with Knicks president Steve Mills and general manager Scott Perry changed his view forever.
“I don’t think he was happy at the time,’’ Burke told The Post in the most revealing testimony yet about Porzingis’ alleged trade demand. “But I do think he wanted to stay. I think something happened at the meeting. I don’t know everything. Going into the meeting, KP had one type of understanding. After the meeting, there was a 180.
“I know once Knicks management and KP had that meeting, KP was out of New York because of what was said. I think he went into the meeting hoping, like, ‘OK, what’s the plan for next year?’ And something went wrong in that meeting and it just blew up. And that was the end of Porzingis.”
So, I read this as the Knicks told KP they wanted to continue to rebuild, which should be f*cking obvious they needed/need to do, to anyone with a brain in their head, and KP probably wanted them to compete. Or something like that - that he wasn't down with "the rebuild".
I mean, again, we'll never exactly know, but as much as Pills suck, they were pretty on the level about what their approach was going to be.
I think the the major f*ck up by Pills, optics wise, this year, is that they said "we'd like to be competitive and build on that"
That was a mistake. They should have flatly stated "this is a continuation of the rebuild process and we'll see what happens".
They set an expectation of competing. More people would be comfortable with the idea they were tanking it again and playing youth.
Instead, it just looks like the Knicks suck and they suck at their job.
Then again, that's very honest too.
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thebuzzardman wrote:god shammgod wrote:like i keep saying, they didn't want him
“One thing he did say, a lot of things the press said, he felt like wasn’t true,’’ Burke said. “He feels like there was a narrative that got out about him, he couldn’t defend himself. I don’t know if [Dallas] told him not to talk that much, but he wasn’t talking. I do think he has his side.’’
Burke said he didn’t want to speak for Porzingis, but gave enough hints that events during his former teammate’s four-minute meeting with Knicks president Steve Mills and general manager Scott Perry changed his view forever.
“I don’t think he was happy at the time,’’ Burke told The Post in the most revealing testimony yet about Porzingis’ alleged trade demand. “But I do think he wanted to stay. I think something happened at the meeting. I don’t know everything. Going into the meeting, KP had one type of understanding. After the meeting, there was a 180.
“I know once Knicks management and KP had that meeting, KP was out of New York because of what was said. I think he went into the meeting hoping, like, ‘OK, what’s the plan for next year?’ And something went wrong in that meeting and it just blew up. And that was the end of Porzingis.”
So, I read this as the Knicks told KP they wanted to continue to rebuild, which should be f*cking obvious they needed/need to do, to anyone with a brain in their head, and KP probably wanted them to compete. Or something like that - that he wasn't down with "the rebuild".
I mean, again, we'll never exactly know, but as much as Pills suck, they were pretty on the level about what their approach was going to be.
I think the the major f*ck up by Pills, optics wise, this year, is that they said "we'd like to be competitive and build on that"
That was a mistake. They should have flatly stated "this is a continuation of the rebuild process and we'll see what happens".
They set an expectation of competing. More people would be comfortable with the idea they were tanking it again and playing youth.
Instead, it just looks like the Knicks suck and they suck at their job.
Then again, that's very honest too.
At the time of the meeting, Durant and Kyrie were still Knicks in the eyes of Dolan. He even went on radio to proclaim that. I doubt they told him that they wanted to rebuild in the meeting.
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Sark wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:
So, I read this as the Knicks told KP they wanted to continue to rebuild, which should be f*cking obvious they needed/need to do, to anyone with a brain in their head, and KP probably wanted them to compete. Or something like that - that he wasn't down with "the rebuild".
I mean, again, we'll never exactly know, but as much as Pills suck, they were pretty on the level about what their approach was going to be.
I think the the major f*ck up by Pills, optics wise, this year, is that they said "we'd like to be competitive and build on that"
That was a mistake. They should have flatly stated "this is a continuation of the rebuild process and we'll see what happens".
They set an expectation of competing. More people would be comfortable with the idea they were tanking it again and playing youth.
Instead, it just looks like the Knicks suck and they suck at their job.
Then again, that's very honest too.
At the time of the meeting, Durant and Kyrie were still Knicks in the eyes of Dolan. He even went on radio to proclaim that. I doubt they told him that they wanted to rebuild in the meeting.
Yeah. Too right. Sorry, Buzz, but I think your take is really wrong. Still. But you are right that the Coach and the FO suck.
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duetta wrote:Porzingis finally has the rebound numbers up to where you would respect him. He still needs to develop some kind of consistent inside game where he can use his size to advantage on nights when the long-distance game is off. He's missed a lot of development time and needs to catch up.
Not sure what management told him in that meeting, but their heads should be on the block after this latest disaster of a season. None of them are worth what they are getting paid.
Yep. They wanted to compete now and have failed miserably.
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dakomish23 wrote:duetta wrote:Porzingis finally has the rebound numbers up to where you would respect him. He still needs to develop some kind of consistent inside game where he can use his size to advantage on nights when the long-distance game is off. He's missed a lot of development time and needs to catch up.
Not sure what management told him in that meeting, but their heads should be on the block after this latest disaster of a season. None of them are worth what they are getting paid.
Yep. They wanted to compete now and have failed miserably.
We ARE competing now......For winning the lottery
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tuna108 wrote:dakomish23 wrote:duetta wrote:Porzingis finally has the rebound numbers up to where you would respect him. He still needs to develop some kind of consistent inside game where he can use his size to advantage on nights when the long-distance game is off. He's missed a lot of development time and needs to catch up.
Not sure what management told him in that meeting, but their heads should be on the block after this latest disaster of a season. None of them are worth what they are getting paid.
Yep. They wanted to compete now and have failed miserably.
We ARE competing now......For winning the lottery
I’m fine with that. It’s whats preferred. Backing into it b/c of a massive failure at executing your goal while foregoing better options to be in the same spot is my beef.
The FO forever gets a free pass when they have done nothing to deserve it
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If this FO were going with all in on a youth movement they wouldn’t have decided to sign the vets they did. The only purpose they’d serve is to stunt the growth of the kids by taking away their playing time.
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