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In season trade targets

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If all of these dudes become available this season who would you try to trade for?

Towns
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24%
Beal
4
6%
Booker
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11%
Bogdanovic
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14%
Hield
7
10%
CP3
4
6%
None of those clowns
22
31%
 
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Re: In season trade targets 

Post#61 » by spree2kawhi » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:12 pm

2010 wrote:Buddy Hield and Bogdan Bogdanovic need to be added to the poll. And take off ALL CAPS!

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Re: In season trade targets 

Post#62 » by dakomish23 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:38 pm

2010 wrote:
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dakomish23 wrote:Buddy Hield

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56% EFG 59% TS

Easy fit next to RBJ and Mitch

Don't think Vlade is letting him go though and if he'd consider it, we most likely don't have the ammo.


$100+ million for Buddy Hield though is steep.


Just two short years ago I couldn't GIVE Hield away in BaF.

With that said, just remember how Knox and RJ are looked at as mere pawns around here now. If they were elsewhere people would covet them. The problem is very few around have the patience for development.

This is not a Frank scenario. Knox has shown big improvements in his body, his strength, his passing, and his shot selection. RJ has come out the gate showing he has the physicality at 19 to power through grown ass men.

Yet we don't want them on a rookie scale deal. We want the pleasure of being the ones to max out Hield and super max Beal. Then cry how dumb Mills is as soon as the ink dries.


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Re: In season trade targets 

Post#63 » by bleedblue3303 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:55 pm

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But why?.gif


because the knicks arent getting anyone in free agency better than chris paul
mike conley will be just as expensive next summer with more years

How about we don't do either of those things?

Trading for Chris Paul, especially if we're not getting assets back, is easily the 2nd worst idea I've heard this month


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Post#64 » by Blockwatcher » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:44 pm

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Re: In season trade targets 

Post#65 » by dakomish23 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:28 am

Capn'O wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:Buddy Hield

Played and started in 82 games - 31.9 MPG
20.7 PPG 5.0 RPG 2.5 APG 0.7 SPG 0.4 BPG
46% on 16.6 FGA 43% on 7.9 3PA 89% on 2.4 FTA
56% EFG 59% TS

Easy fit next to RBJ and Mitch

Don't think Vlade is letting him go though and if he'd consider it, we most likely don't have the ammo.


$100+ million for Buddy Hield though is steep.


He might be a top 10 SG and a top 10 shooter

He’s 26 turning 27 so you’re giving his big pay day for his best years

Would I rather them commit to a rebuild and find a guy like him in the draft? Yeah, I’ve wanted this approach for years. They’re never going to do it. Ever. So if they’re gonna spend, do it on this type of acquisition.

After years of seeing dumb ass Mills waste money on trash players, I’m not gonna complain about paying a stud in his prime.
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Re: In season trade targets 

Post#66 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:46 am

dakomish23 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:Buddy Hield

Played and started in 82 games - 31.9 MPG
20.7 PPG 5.0 RPG 2.5 APG 0.7 SPG 0.4 BPG
46% on 16.6 FGA 43% on 7.9 3PA 89% on 2.4 FTA
56% EFG 59% TS

Easy fit next to RBJ and Mitch

Don't think Vlade is letting him go though and if he'd consider it, we most likely don't have the ammo.


$100+ million for Buddy Hield though is steep.


He might be a top 10 SG and a top 10 shooter

He’s 26 turning 27 so you’re giving his big pay day for his best years

Would I rather them commit to a rebuild and find a guy like him in the draft? Yeah, I’ve wanted this approach for years. They’re never going to do it. Ever. So if they’re gonna spend, do it on this type of acquisition.

After years of seeing dumb ass Mills waste money on trash players, I’m not gonna complain about paying a stud in his prime.

You're right, but this is why I'd prefer Bogdan though.
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Re: In season trade targets 

Post#67 » by dakomish23 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:48 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
$100+ million for Buddy Hield though is steep.


He might be a top 10 SG and a top 10 shooter

He’s 26 turning 27 so you’re giving his big pay day for his best years

Would I rather them commit to a rebuild and find a guy like him in the draft? Yeah, I’ve wanted this approach for years. They’re never going to do it. Ever. So if they’re gonna spend, do it on this type of acquisition.

After years of seeing dumb ass Mills waste money on trash players, I’m not gonna complain about paying a stud in his prime.

You're right, but this is why I'd prefer Bogdan though.


I wouldn’t say I prefer either, but I was pro signing Brogdon. Efficiency, shooting and solid (not great) defense. Would have been a nice piece to add to our core.
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Post#68 » by Deeeez Knicks » Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:55 pm

Capn'O wrote:Draft picks.


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Post#69 » by Deeeez Knicks » Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:57 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
He might be a top 10 SG and a top 10 shooter

He’s 26 turning 27 so you’re giving his big pay day for his best years

Would I rather them commit to a rebuild and find a guy like him in the draft? Yeah, I’ve wanted this approach for years. They’re never going to do it. Ever. So if they’re gonna spend, do it on this type of acquisition.

After years of seeing dumb ass Mills waste money on trash players, I’m not gonna complain about paying a stud in his prime.

You're right, but this is why I'd prefer Bogdan though.


I wouldn’t say I prefer either, but I was pro signing Brogdon. Efficiency, shooting and solid (not great) defense. Would have been a nice piece to add to our core.


I would have loved Brogdan, but not for 1 first, 2 seconds and $85mil. He was restricted so would have been really tough to get.
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Re: In season trade targets 

Post#70 » by dakomish23 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:33 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:You're right, but this is why I'd prefer Bogdan though.


I wouldn’t say I prefer either, but I was pro signing Brogdon. Efficiency, shooting and solid (not great) defense. Would have been a nice piece to add to our core.


I would have loved Brogdan, but not for 1 first, 2 seconds and $85mil. He was restricted so would have been really tough to get.


I’m not giving up our own picks unless it’s for a top 10 guy and that addition makes us a contender.

I’d consider giving up this pick if anything.

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We also could have upped the price (he’s starting at 20) and given him a PO (doesn’t have one). The first IND paid got them this 4 year, lower deal.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/indiana-pacers/malcolm-brogdon-20242/
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Post#71 » by Deeeez Knicks » Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:00 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
I wouldn’t say I prefer either, but I was pro signing Brogdon. Efficiency, shooting and solid (not great) defense. Would have been a nice piece to add to our core.


I would have loved Brogdan, but not for 1 first, 2 seconds and $85mil. He was restricted so would have been really tough to get.


I’m not giving up our own picks unless it’s for a top 10 guy and that addition makes us a contender.

I’d consider giving up this pick if anything.

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We also could have upped the price (he’s starting at 20) and given him a PO (doesn’t have one). The first IND paid got them this 4 year, lower deal.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/indiana-pacers/malcolm-brogdon-20242/


I think I would still pass on that one. He is a nice piece to add to a core or playoff team, but when you on the bottom i am not sure I would make that move.

Love the player though and would have been a nice pickup so do agree on that end.
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Re: In season trade targets 

Post#72 » by RHODEY » Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:13 pm

2010 wrote:Buddy Hield and Bogdan Bogdanovic need to be added to the poll. And take off ALL CAPS!


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Post#73 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:08 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
I would have loved Brogdan, but not for 1 first, 2 seconds and $85mil. He was restricted so would have been really tough to get.


I’m not giving up our own picks unless it’s for a top 10 guy and that addition makes us a contender.

I’d consider giving up this pick if anything.

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Dallas' 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-10 in 2023, 1-10 in 2024 and 1-10 in 2025; if Dallas has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2025, then Dallas will instead convey its 2025 2nd round pick to New York [Dallas-New York, 1/31/2019]

We also could have upped the price (he’s starting at 20) and given him a PO (doesn’t have one). The first IND paid got them this 4 year, lower deal.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/indiana-pacers/malcolm-brogdon-20242/


I think I would still pass on that one. He is a nice piece to add to a core or playoff team, but when you on the bottom i am not sure I would make that move.

Love the player though and would have been a nice pickup so do agree on that end.

Bogdan Bogdanovic, guys :) cheaper than Buddy and Brogdon.
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Post#74 » by semjazy » Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:32 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
I’m not giving up our own picks unless it’s for a top 10 guy and that addition makes us a contender.

I’d consider giving up this pick if anything.

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Dallas' 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-10 in 2023, 1-10 in 2024 and 1-10 in 2025; if Dallas has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2025, then Dallas will instead convey its 2025 2nd round pick to New York [Dallas-New York, 1/31/2019]

We also could have upped the price (he’s starting at 20) and given him a PO (doesn’t have one). The first IND paid got them this 4 year, lower deal.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/indiana-pacers/malcolm-brogdon-20242/


I think I would still pass on that one. He is a nice piece to add to a core or playoff team, but when you on the bottom i am not sure I would make that move.

Love the player though and would have been a nice pickup so do agree on that end.

Bogdan Bogdanovic, guys :) cheaper than Buddy and Brogdon.

I don't think he will be cheaper than those guys. Vlade seems to love him
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Post#75 » by br7knicks » Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:07 am

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Post#76 » by br7knicks » Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:09 am

honestly, none of them make sense.

towns - no. knicks don't need a defenseless, stat-padding, me-first piece of **** player. us fans went through melo for FAR too long. **** that again
booker - doesn't play defense, but a kevin martin type of guy in that he can score a **** load. but knicks need defense on the perimeter, especially if frank doesn't work out. already have RJ there. but booker is the more likely that makes sense.
beal - asking price too high, but fits the defense need, and #2 scoring option.
CP3 - haha
hield - i'm a fan, but how old is he?
bogdan - nope. have better options already on the team
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Post#77 » by br7knicks » Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:11 am

NYKHardKnock wrote:Towns and Booker hell no. That’s not the culture I want here. Beal yes. To a lesser extend I’d like Buddy.

Buddy for Knox swap? But we’d need to see Kev in action before anything


aren't he and the kings in talks of an extension?


knox and a draft pick doesn't even get a response from sacramento
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Post#78 » by br7knicks » Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:13 am

frothbrain wrote:DSjr and Bobby Portis for Mike Conley


i wouldn't be against this at all - over the summer, i actually brought up taking a guy like conley (and his contract) for some sort of compensation for taking it on.

conley is great, and would be amazing for the culture change.


plus, dsjr and portis would be out
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Post#79 » by br7knicks » Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:15 am

DowNY wrote:
NYKHardKnock wrote:Towns and Booker hell no. That’s not the culture I want here. Beal yes. To a lesser extend I’d like Buddy.

Buddy for Knox swap? But we’d need to see Kev in action before anything

Buddy worth more than just Knox. With that said, I like Buddy more than Booker.
I’d offer Knox, DSJr & a future top 20 protected pick.

RJ’s playmaking with Buddy’s elite shooting is money.


i wouldn't be against that at all. not sure kings entertain that, depending on how they go with extension talks - believe they're both in stalemate right now.
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Post#80 » by br7knicks » Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:16 am

Capn'O wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:Buddy Hield

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46% on 16.6 FGA 43% on 7.9 3PA 89% on 2.4 FTA
56% EFG 59% TS

Easy fit next to RBJ and Mitch

Don't think Vlade is letting him go though and if he'd consider it, we most likely don't have the ammo.


$100+ million for Buddy Hield though is steep.


i'd normally agree with you, but that's how things are going, with lesser players, though.

my only issue with buddy is that, he's ready to hit his prime, but most of the knicks are not. so if the knicks buy into him, he'll want other guys at his career arch. if he's willing to be a growing piece, sure. he'd be, what, 30, when his contract is up?
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