Official trade Julius Randle thread

[thebuzzardman]

I'm trying to think the last time I cringed this much every time a Knick got the ball.

Othello Harrington? Because it was never coming back?
Shandon Anderson, because of the dribbling buffonery?

Surely I'm missing someone. I'd add JR Smith, but you never knew when he'd heat up, and it just didn't annoy me like Randle does, or THJr did.

[NoZoLakers]

hes not a bad player. your coach is probably asking n allowing him to do "more" instead of keeping him in line as to what hes actually good at n thats paint scoring n rebounding

[mpharris36]

Maybe the Hornets? They dont seem like a very smart team and have some contracts, that might be interested in Randle. I would take Biyombo, Batum or Marvin Williams. Maybe they would even throw in a 2nd rounder in a Batum for Randle + filler deal.

I like that deal as well. You probably can get another small asset with Batum for Randle + small filler

[swisscheeseD]

I'm trying to think the last time I cringed this much every time a Knick got the ball.

Othello Harrington? Because it was never coming back?
Shandon Anderson, because of the dribbling buffonery?

Surely I'm missing someone. I'd add JR Smith, but you never knew when he'd heat up, and it just didn't annoy me like Randle does, or THJr did.

Maurice Taylor.

[SWYM]

Remember that time posters thought THJ would garner assets, same discussion.

No chance anyway takes 2 years of Randle @ his salary and again, it'll require assets to dump Randle.

In Perry we trust...

Bahahahaha

[nedleeds]

Maybe the Hornets? They dont seem like a very smart team and have some contracts, that might be interested in Randle. I would take Biyombo, Batum or Marvin Williams. Maybe they would even throw in a 2nd rounder in a Batum for Randle + filler deal.

If I thought Batum would be helpful for Frank maybe but he'll probably just get him drunk at wine bars and help him catch genital warts.

[Deeeez Knicks]

I'm trying to think the last time I cringed this much every time a Knick got the ball.

Othello Harrington? Because it was never coming back?
Shandon Anderson, because of the dribbling buffonery?

Surely I'm missing someone. I'd add JR Smith, but you never knew when he'd heat up, and it just didn't annoy me like Randle does, or THJr did.

Al Harrington

[Jeff Van Gully]

I'm trying to think the last time I cringed this much every time a Knick got the ball.

Othello Harrington? Because it was never coming back?
Shandon Anderson, because of the dribbling buffonery?

Surely I'm missing someone. I'd add JR Smith, but you never knew when he'd heat up, and it just didn't annoy me like Randle does, or THJr did.

Al Harrington

eddy curry to a lesser extent, because his FG% was solid, but he NEVER passed it back out. possession over.

z-bo had a little of that knucklhead to his game too.

shandon was a damn good call.

[Stannis]

Remember that time posters thought THJ would garner assets, same discussion.

No chance anyway takes 2 years of Randle @ his salary and again, it'll require assets to dump Randle.

In Perry we trust...

Bahahahaha

No where near as bad as THjr's 4 year fully guaranteed contract.

Randle's s only fully guaranteed in this year and next. The Knicks don't have free agency plans in 2020.

Also only 4 million guaranteed if not waived by June 28, 2021. It will suck if we have to eat 4 million in cap if we don't find a trade partner. But it shouldn't set us back too much to if we try to make a play in 2021 free agency.

[Cookies4Life]

They'd probably have to give up an asset attached in order to dump him now. Hopefully he improves as the season goes on and than maybe his trade value will build up. He's such an odd fit on this team and doesn't seem like a winning type of player IMO. His defense, excessive isolation plays and turnovers are what really bothers me about his game and we unfortunately just have to wait it out with him.

I imagine he'll be easier to trade by next summer when he becomes an expiring.

[thebuzzardman]

I'm trying to think the last time I cringed this much every time a Knick got the ball.

Othello Harrington? Because it was never coming back?
Shandon Anderson, because of the dribbling buffonery?

Surely I'm missing someone. I'd add JR Smith, but you never knew when he'd heat up, and it just didn't annoy me like Randle does, or THJr did.

Al Harrington

Felt like a more competent scorer. I didn't like his game, but not as cringeworthy as Randle. Randle just feels like a turnover waiting to happen every time he touches the ball.

I have to go way back to Shandon Anderson, who, when he wasn't fumbling the ball away, as a GUARD, was missing jumpers left and right.

Randle is like Mega Shandon.

[HarthorneWingo]

So happy to see this thread up. Sticky this mofo.

[lloydj]

Stupid A%% Thread. MOFO's

[Knicksfan20]

He is awful. Just so hard to watch. I dont' remember the last time I cringed so much for a player when the ball was in his hands. Maybe JR Smith? That thirsty clown.

Lance Thomas

[Mecca]

I love this song

[BLACKFEET 2010]

Stupid A%% Thread. MOFO's

This is a fact.

[knicksNOTslick]

I'm trying to think the last time I cringed this much every time a Knick got the ball.

Othello Harrington? Because it was never coming back?
Shandon Anderson, because of the dribbling buffonery?

Surely I'm missing someone. I'd add JR Smith, but you never knew when he'd heat up, and it just didn't annoy me like Randle does, or THJr did.

Clarence Weatherspoon. How he would either get blocked by the opponent or the rim.

[HarthorneWingo]

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2019/11/14/20964601/new-york-knicks-steve-mills-julius-randle-marcus-morris-offseason-free-agency

This team is actually so much worse than all of that. The roster Mills and Perry assembled is an endless black hole of self-interest and misaligned incentives that nudges every player to his worst instinct. It belongs in a Breaking Madden experiment, not actual reality. It’s a roster of mediocrity that adds up to a tiny fraction of the sum of its parts. It’s such a disaster that it’s impossible to blame any single factor for its dysfunction, which is ideal for a Teflon team president whose only skill is tossing others under the bus to save himself.

The Knicks’ “marquee” free agent signing this summer is the most fitting on-court avatar for all of this. Once upon a time, Julius Randle was a top prospect with a bright NBA future. But after spending his formative NBA years mired in the Lakers’ dysfunction, then a season on a lost New Orleans team where he put up numbers with no impact on winning, Randle has mastered the art of appearing to play hard while not actually playing hard in a constructive way.

So far, Randle has imported all of his bad habits and none of the shot-making he displayed in New Orleans. He catches the ball and holds it, triple-threating any potential opportunity away to scan a defense that should’ve already been tilted for him. Even on TV, you can feel the energy sucked out of the other four Knicks players as they stand helplessly waiting for Randle to make a play. No big man in the league averages more seconds or dribbles per touch.

What do the Knicks get from all that standing around? Usually, those plays are multiple-dribble moves into traffic that fail to work out.’

Or, contested three-pointers that never seem to go in. (Randle is shooting 21 percent on three-and-a-half three-point attempts a game. You’re open for a reason, my man).

*****

Any offense with this type of player using the most possessions is committing a basketball crime. The Knicks’ half-court offense is averaging just 81.4 points per 100 possessions through the first 11 games this season, according to Cleaning The Glass. The gap between them and the second-worst half-court offense is wider than the gap between second-worst and 10th-worst. In fact, no team has been below 82 points per 100 possessions on half-court possessions since the Process era 76ers of 2014-15.

Worse, half-court plays account for nearly 78 percent of the Knicks’ possessions, third-highest in the league.

[ny-n-md]

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2019/11/14/20964601/new-york-knicks-steve-mills-julius-randle-marcus-morris-offseason-free-agency

This team is actually so much worse than all of that. The roster Mills and Perry assembled is an endless black hole of self-interest and misaligned incentives that nudges every player to his worst instinct. It belongs in a Breaking Madden experiment, not actual reality. It’s a roster of mediocrity that adds up to a tiny fraction of the sum of its parts. It’s such a disaster that it’s impossible to blame any single factor for its dysfunction, which is ideal for a Teflon team president whose only skill is tossing others under the bus to save himself.

The Knicks’ “marquee” free agent signing this summer is the most fitting on-court avatar for all of this. Once upon a time, Julius Randle was a top prospect with a bright NBA future. But after spending his formative NBA years mired in the Lakers’ dysfunction, then a season on a lost New Orleans team where he put up numbers with no impact on winning, Randle has mastered the art of appearing to play hard while not actually playing hard in a constructive way.

So far, Randle has imported all of his bad habits and none of the shot-making he displayed in New Orleans. He catches the ball and holds it, triple-threating any potential opportunity away to scan a defense that should’ve already been tilted for him. Even on TV, you can feel the energy sucked out of the other four Knicks players as they stand helplessly waiting for Randle to make a play. No big man in the league averages more seconds or dribbles per touch.

What do the Knicks get from all that standing around? Usually, those plays are multiple-dribble moves into traffic that fail to work out.’

Or, contested three-pointers that never seem to go in. (Randle is shooting 21 percent on three-and-a-half three-point attempts a game. You’re open for a reason, my man).

*****

Any offense with this type of player using the most possessions is committing a basketball crime. The Knicks’ half-court offense is averaging just 81.4 points per 100 possessions through the first 11 games this season, according to Cleaning The Glass. The gap between them and the second-worst half-court offense is wider than the gap between second-worst and 10th-worst. In fact, no team has been below 82 points per 100 possessions on half-court possessions since the Process era 76ers of 2014-15.

Worse, half-court plays account for nearly 78 percent of the Knicks’ possessions, third-highest in the league.

Wow


I knew he was bad but this bad? Incredible

[Mike1989]