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Re: Knicks reportedly remain open to trading Julius Randle 

Post#221 » by HighRyzer83 » Thu Aug 6, 2020 10:27 am

I just don't want Aaron Gordon. I don't think he brings anything for us. Surely we can flip a young 20/10 into better than Gordon.
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Post#222 » by Dubious Handles » Thu Aug 6, 2020 11:16 am

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we probably can't do anything about randle so let's focus on what we can do. we can ban melo or at least give him an embarrassing sig. something like "i love julius randle". mods make it happen.


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Post#223 » by Dubious Handles » Thu Aug 6, 2020 11:28 am

HighRyzer83 wrote:I just don't want Aaron Gordon. I don't think he brings anything for us. Surely we can flip a young 20/10 into better than Gordon.


Julius is indeed a young stud, will be only 26 years young next season! Big men like himself take longer to mature, he will be hitting his prime soon.

He is a fantastic player, only needs to improve his 3pt shooting, free throw shooting, dribble, defensive awareness, defensive stance, athleticism, effort level, tunnel vision, and turnover rate. Once he figures it out, the league better watch out!
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Re: Knicks reportedly remain open to trading Julius Randle 

Post#224 » by 2010 » Thu Aug 6, 2020 11:40 am

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HighRyzer83 wrote:I just don't want Aaron Gordon. I don't think he brings anything for us. Surely we can flip a young 20/10 into better than Gordon.


Julius is indeed a young stud, will be only 26 years young next season! Big men like himself take longer to mature, he will be hitting his prime soon.

He is a fantastic player, only needs to improve his 3pt shooting, free throw shooting, dribble, defensive awareness, defensive stance, athleticism, effort level, tunnel vision, and turnover rate. Once he figures it out, the league better watch out!


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Re: Knicks reportedly remain open to trading Julius Randle 

Post#225 » by MaseInYourFace » Thu Aug 6, 2020 11:50 am

HighRyzer83 wrote:I just don't want Aaron Gordon. I don't think he brings anything for us. Surely we can flip a young 20/10 into better than Gordon.


Randle is probably a little better than him.
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Post#226 » by knickstape4ever » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:37 pm

Payne’s addition to Tom Thibodeau’s coaching staff has been hailed as a boon to aiding Knox’s slow development and getting back with Randle, who still could be a franchise building block at age 26.

-via Marc Berman

so Randle has gone from trade block to potential franchise building block? is this just Berman, or do the Knicks feel this way? on one hand, I wouldn't be surprised since Randle is a CAA client and now he has a personal relationship w/ Payne
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Post#227 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:51 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:Payne’s addition to Tom Thibodeau’s coaching staff has been hailed as a boon to aiding Knox’s slow development and getting back with Randle, who still could be a franchise building block at age 26.

-via Marc Berman

so Randle has gone from trade block to potential franchise building block? is this just Berman, or do the Knicks feel this way? on one hand, I wouldn't be surprised since Randle is a CAA client and now he has a personal relationship w/ Payne


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Post#228 » by bigfnjoe96 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:29 pm

Dubious Handles wrote:Julius is indeed a young stud, will be only 26 years young next season! Big men like himself take longer to mature, he will be hitting his prime soon.

He is a fantastic player, only needs to improve his 3pt shooting, free throw shooting, dribble, defensive awareness, defensive stance, athleticism, effort level, tunnel vision, and turnover rate. Once he figures it out, the league better watch out!
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Post#229 » by KnicksGadfly » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:09 am

I always ask this to the Randle stans: Which contender is this league would Randle make objectively better, by joining their starting lineup? Sadly, I never get an answer.

All I get are dumb responses like 20-10 and he scores so many points against the Cavs and Hawks...what a stud!
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Post#230 » by iLLmatic860 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:21 am

KnicksGadfly wrote:I always ask this to the Randle stans: Which contender is this league would Randle make objectively better, by joining their starting lineup? Sadly, I never get an answer.

All I get are dumb responses like 20-10 and he scores so many points against the Cavs and Hawks...what a stud!

If he actually had a 3 ball he would be deadly but that kills him in this era of basketball. I still feel he would beast as a 6th man off bench
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Re: Knicks reportedly remain open to trading Julius Randle 

Post#231 » by br7knicks » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:38 am

HighRyzer83 wrote:I just don't want Aaron Gordon. I don't think he brings anything for us. Surely we can flip a young 20/10 into better than Gordon.


i like gordon, but not for this team.

i like that he's defense first. i like that he has a high motor. i like that he has been improving his game almost every year since making the NBA. i do think the amount of athleticism with gordon, mitch, rj, (hypothetically Lamelo) would make this team incredibly fun to watch.


i don't like that he doesn't fit the current mold of the modern style of the NBA. he also seems like he's going to cost quite a bit to get. his game relies on athleticism, and he tends to get small injuries a bit. his game is going to fall quickly once his athleticism is negated - blake griffin has done an okay job adjusting his game, not sure if aaron gordon can/will do the same.
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Re: Knicks reportedly remain open to trading Julius Randle 

Post#232 » by br7knicks » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:40 am

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KnicksGadfly wrote:I always ask this to the Randle stans: Which contender is this league would Randle make objectively better, by joining their starting lineup? Sadly, I never get an answer.

All I get are dumb responses like 20-10 and he scores so many points against the Cavs and Hawks...what a stud!

If he actually had a 3 ball he would be deadly but that kills him in this era of basketball. I still feel he would beast as a 6th man off bench


i can agree with that. plus, having a 3PT shot would help prevent him from spin moving into 3 defenders
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Post#233 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:12 pm

KnicksGadfly wrote:I always ask this to the Randle stans: Which contender is this league would Randle make objectively better, by joining their starting lineup? Sadly, I never get an answer.

All I get are dumb responses like 20-10 and he scores so many points against the Cavs and Hawks...what a stud!

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Re: Knicks reportedly remain open to trading Julius Randle 

Post#234 » by KnicksGadfly » Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:34 pm

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KnicksGadfly wrote:I always ask this to the Randle stans: Which contender is this league would Randle make objectively better, by joining their starting lineup? Sadly, I never get an answer.

All I get are dumb responses like 20-10 and he scores so many points against the Cavs and Hawks...what a stud!

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Wouldn't count as a contender for me, but I can kinda see it. I doubt they would need him considering they already have an explosive offense and need defense in the worst way, but it can work. I'll give you it to be nice.

But anyway...so we got 1 team out of all the contenders, and it's a mid-tier team in the West. Bucks, Clippers, Lakers, Jazz, Rockets, OKC, Celtics, Heat, Nuggets, Raptors, Sixers, etc. All those guys don't want Randle. And the one team that could use Randle happens to have a three point shooting unicorn with good defense and can play with anybody, as well as a stud point guard who is a 1A option and can play with anybody.

If I'm Dallas, this is what I'm thinking. I could have Randle, who doesn't play d and can't shoot. Or I could try and get Kevin Love, who has more skills and the same weakness on d. Or Enes Kanter. Or Andre Drummond, who got moved for a 2nd. KP wants to play PF, and their most used lineup either had a great 3&D player at PF (Dorian Finney Smith), or a Tyson-Chandler-lite type of player in Dwight Powell who scores super efficiently and can d up. Marc Gasol will be out there, and Serge Ibaka too. If I'm Dallas, I need to fix the defense, not the offense.

Anyway, I rest my case.

Finally, go to any of those teams' forums and ask them who they would rather have, Aaron Gordon or Julius Randle? I think it's a joke that people think Randle is better.
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Re: Knicks reportedly remain open to trading Julius Randle 

Post#235 » by nedleeds » Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:13 pm

He's a small ball off the bench center. That's it. On the Knicks he's a point forward. I'd trade him and Knox and DSJ and a Dallas pick for Aaron Gordon. Aaron Gordon can play defense and finish. He's not perfect but jesus.

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Post#236 » by malik959 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:42 pm

BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:I always ask this to the Randle stans: Which contender is this league would Randle make objectively better, by joining their starting lineup? Sadly, I never get an answer.

All I get are dumb responses like 20-10 and he scores so many points against the Cavs and Hawks...what a stud!

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Post#237 » by Oscirus » Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:32 pm

BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:I always ask this to the Randle stans: Which contender is this league would Randle make objectively better, by joining their starting lineup? Sadly, I never get an answer.

All I get are dumb responses like 20-10 and he scores so many points against the Cavs and Hawks...what a stud!

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Perhaps, but we'd be dumb as **** to make the mavs better next year. They're not even an option
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Re: Knicks reportedly remain open to trading Julius Randle 

Post#238 » by GONYK » Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:49 pm

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BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:I always ask this to the Randle stans: Which contender is this league would Randle make objectively better, by joining their starting lineup? Sadly, I never get an answer.

All I get are dumb responses like 20-10 and he scores so many points against the Cavs and Hawks...what a stud!

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Portland, Mavs, Colts, OKC if they lose Galo (sign and trade maybe?),


Most of the teams you mentioned need stretch 4's, not Randle

Portland has Nurkic and Whiteside. Randle doesn't help.

OKC needs a Gallo replacement. Randle is the opposite.

Celtics already have Kanter in the Randle role.
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Post#239 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:42 pm

I think Thibs can do decent things with Randle operating out of the high post, IF a few other things happen:

1. A shooting guard who can actually shoot. Get one.
2. Sign a stretch 4. Like J. Grant. I'd sign a 5 who can shoot like Baynes.
3. Make Randle the back up 4/5 OR make Mitch the back up 5.

Basically, Randle and Mitch kind of crowd the paint so they have to be broken up, mostly.
Randle and Grant can play together. Or Randle and Baynes.

If the Knicks acquire a PG that can shoot, all the better, but if they get a non shooting one, like LaMelo, at least the lineup would feature 2 guys who can space the floor at all times. Or 3 if RJ discovers a jumper.

I get signing J. Grant\Baynes and having Randle be a 4/5 would limit Knox's minutes at the 4, but that'll be fine for another year. Knox can find 15-20 mpg backing up 3 and a little 4.

Something to do to see if Randle takes another step or until he's dealt at the deadline or expires.
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Post#240 » by nedleeds » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:06 pm

GONYK wrote:
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BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:The Mavericks.

Portland, Mavs, Colts, OKC if they lose Galo (sign and trade maybe?),


Most of the teams you mentioned need stretch 4's, not Randle

Portland has Nurkic and Whiteside. Randle doesn't help.

OKC needs a Gallo replacement. Randle is the opposite.

Celtics already have Kanter in the Randle role.


Only team I can think of that wants a small ball left handed center, to be a no-defense playing back up is New Orleans. He's a homeless mans Zion so they wouldn't have to change their scheme.
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