NY Knicks 2020 Draft Big Board #5 Pick - 24 Hours to VOTE!

[mpharris36]

also if you don't want frank part two I would suggest you vote

i voted for deni. happy. i might change to cole though depending on how the vote goes. i can't have 2nd frank win now after wiseman won at 3. i'm disappointed with you all.

Deni could be a 6'9" Frank

I think he's a better athlete than frank with some more offensive upsaide but I do understand the idea that he is a jack of all trades but a master of none.

The problem with that is there are literally pros and cons to all the remaining prospects. Its kinda crazy someone that has someone at 5...I know people who have him as there 15 rates prospect. There is such vareity in what people like and im sure these polls will prove that

[Strick]

DENI! If the shot pans out, which I think he’ll be at least an average to above average NBA shooter, I think he’ll be a very good player in the NBA. Really intriguing stretch 4 option with good mobility. I love his speed he plays with on breaks

[Fat]

Obi @ 5 for me

[Deeeez Knicks]

i voted for deni. happy. i might change to cole though depending on how the vote goes. i can't have 2nd frank win now after wiseman won at 3. i'm disappointed with you all.

Deni could be a 6'9" Frank

I think he's a better athlete than frank with some more offensive upsaide but I do understand the idea that he is a jack of all trades but a master of none.

The problem with that is there are literally pros and cons to all the remaining prospects. Its kinda crazy someone that has someone at 5...I know people who have him as there 15 rates prospect. There is such vareity in what people like and im sure these polls will prove that

Yea, its a tough range. I agree that there looks like alot of potential solid options, but maybe not many good high upside options. If we are drafting 6-8 in this draft, i dont mind if we come out with a good starter just cause of the options. Think that might be what we can hope for.

With Deni, i dont really see star upside. See more role player, but with some risk. It can still end up being a good pick as long as we are ok with a role player and expectations arent too high...just assuming drafting another Frank means drafting a role player.

[mpharris36]

Deni could be a 6'9" Frank

I think he's a better athlete than frank with some more offensive upsaide but I do understand the idea that he is a jack of all trades but a master of none.

The problem with that is there are literally pros and cons to all the remaining prospects. Its kinda crazy someone that has someone at 5...I know people who have him as there 15 rates prospect. There is such vareity in what people like and im sure these polls will prove that

Yea, its a tough range. I agree that there looks like alot of potential solid options, but maybe not many good high upside options. If we are drafting 6-8 in this draft, i dont mind if we come out with a good starter just cause of the options. Think that might be what we can hope for.

With Deni, i dont really see star upside. See more role player, but with some risk. It can still end up being a good pick as long as we are ok with a role player and expectations arent too high...just assuming drafting another Frank means drafting a role player.

So are you think more of a Vassell at this spot then?

Someone you know can be a starter with shooting and defense rather then taking this risk on deni even though he has more playmaking but there are more quesitons about his shot?

[Deeeez Knicks]

I think he's a better athlete than frank with some more offensive upsaide but I do understand the idea that he is a jack of all trades but a master of none.

The problem with that is there are literally pros and cons to all the remaining prospects. Its kinda crazy someone that has someone at 5...I know people who have him as there 15 rates prospect. There is such vareity in what people like and im sure these polls will prove that

Yea, its a tough range. I agree that there looks like alot of potential solid options, but maybe not many good high upside options. If we are drafting 6-8 in this draft, i dont mind if we come out with a good starter just cause of the options. Think that might be what we can hope for.

With Deni, i dont really see star upside. See more role player, but with some risk. It can still end up being a good pick as long as we are ok with a role player and expectations arent too high...just assuming drafting another Frank means drafting a role player.

So are you think more of a Vassell at this spot then?

Someone you know can be a starter with shooting and defense rather then taking this risk on deni even though he has more playmaking but there are more quesitons about his shot?

I think i like Vassell or Haliburton a little better then Deni. They are all kinda close. Overall, i am not sure i am buying Deni has way more upside then tjose guys either.

I may actually lean towards Haliburton for his passing. Even if hes not a high usage pg, there could be some upside as an all around player.

Maybe overall, Onyeka is the best available. I haven't really watched enough of him tbh. Think he is someone that will probably go before our pick, unless we move up. And if we move upwe will probably take someone else.

[mpharris36]

Yea, its a tough range. I agree that there looks like alot of potential solid options, but maybe not many good high upside options. If we are drafting 6-8 in this draft, i dont mind if we come out with a good starter just cause of the options. Think that might be what we can hope for.

With Deni, i dont really see star upside. See more role player, but with some risk. It can still end up being a good pick as long as we are ok with a role player and expectations arent too high...just assuming drafting another Frank means drafting a role player.

So are you think more of a Vassell at this spot then?

Someone you know can be a starter with shooting and defense rather then taking this risk on deni even though he has more playmaking but there are more quesitons about his shot?

I think i like Vassell or Haliburton a little better then Deni. They are all kinda close. Overall, i am not sure i am buying Deni has way more upside then tjose guys either.

I may actually lean towards Haliburton for his passing. Even if hes not a high usage pg, there could be some upside as an all around player.

Maybe overall, Onyeka is the best available. I haven't really watched enough of him tbh. Think he is someone that will probably go before our pick, unless we move up. And if we move upwe will probably take someone else.

I think all your points are fair and totally understand your point. I personally obviously have faith in Frank a lot so I think a lot of what Haliburton currently brings Frank also brings for this team. Outside of the shooting which Haliburton already has a track record for a much better shooter).

But if Frank say gets to 35% and lets says early on Haliburton is 38-40% is that enough of a difference without major gaps in all the other areas (passing, defense, basketball iq). To warrant picking him?

I guess if you are someone that doesn't believe in Franks development I think its very fair then to want to select Haliburton that high.

[robillionaire]

The first 4 went in the exact order of my big board, but now I’m going to keep voting over and over for okoro because I had him 5th. I had Deni 6th followed by Cole Haliburton Toppin Okongwu. I don’t expect we will have many landslide winners at this point

[Worst_to_First]

First to vote LOL.

Obi should get serious consideration here.

Obi in the lead now

edit: Yeah nvm. We're the only 2 people who voted for him

I like Deni, he has an intriguing skill set, but I think his lack of wingspan will make it very problematic to play him at the 4 which is where some project him to be.

[3toheadmelo]

First to vote LOL.

Obi should get serious consideration here.

Obi in the lead now

edit: Yeah nvm. We're the only 2 people who voted for him

I like Deni, he has an intriguing skill set, but I think his lack of wingspan will make it very problematic to play him at the 4 which is where some project him to be.

Yeah he might be better off as a 3. Seems athletic enough to play the 3

[Worst_to_First]

Not even remotely even close to Siakam’s skill set. Wow.

Sialkam wasn't close to Siakams skill set when he was drafted...wow.

Noted. Adebayo, sure. Siakam? Not even close. Achiuwa is closer to Siakam skill set than Okongwu.

Playmaking is what makes Bam as good as he is right now and about as valuable to the Heat as Jimmy Butler.

Don’t see this skill set in Okongwu, although to be fair I did not expect Bam to be this good as a playmaker from what I saw in his Kentucky days.

[Worst_to_First]

Sialkam wasn't close to Siakams skill set when he was drafted...wow.

Noted. Adebayo, sure. Siakam? Not even close. Achiuwa is closer to Siakam skill set than Okongwu.

Paul Reed is closer skill wise.

But I think they are referring to Okongwus physical tools, defensive versatility, feel for the game and his always on motor when talking Siakam comps.

I hope we get Paul Reed with one of our later picks.

[Worst_to_First]

Obi in the lead now

edit: Yeah nvm. We're the only 2 people who voted for him

I like Deni, he has an intriguing skill set, but I think his lack of wingspan will make it very problematic to play him at the 4 which is where some project him to be.

Yeah he might be better off as a 3. Seems athletic enough to play the 3

LOL even at the 3 Deni would lack the length. This is what makes me hesitate to play RJ at SF as both he and Deni have around the same wingspan.

The problem I see with Deni is that he doesn’t have the lateral quickness to guard wings and the length and strength to guard bigs.

It is one thing to be a tweener offensively but I think it is more of a problem to be one defensively.

[moocow007]

How's it possible that Obi had much more votes the last round than this round? Folks changing their minds? This late in the game? And where'd all the votes for Deni come from? Come on guys. So many if you have been talking so surely about Toppin and now dome of you are flipping to a guy that most of us have never ever seen?

[Worst_to_First]

How's it possible that Obi had much more votes the last round than this round? Folks changing their minds? This late in the game? And where'd all the votes for Deni come from? Come on guys. So many if you have been talking so surely about Toppin and now dome of you are flipping to a guy that most of us have never ever seen?

Yeah same thoughts here but probably the guys that had Hayes high up on their board had Deni right next over Obi.

[aq_ua]

Devin! Devin! At this point in this draft, I don’t see any real game changers so I’d rather go for a player with one or two solidly identifiable skills. Shooting and defense from the two spot are pretty valuable.

[Tornelyus]

Voted for Vassell. Best shooter and (if not best) top-3 defender among this group.
He will start contributing immediately, and by the year 3, he will be a special player.

[a-French-Fan]

also if you don't want frank part two I would suggest you vote

i voted for deni. happy. i might change to cole though depending on how the vote goes. i can't have 2nd frank win now after wiiseman won at 3. i'm disappointed with you all.

Write in Theo Maledon. That'll be the closest thing to Frank no?

Not so close, and I prefer him to Killian Hayes. But Knicks'fans seem to look for a high scoring PG, so don't pick him.
He proved much than Ntilikina when Knicks drafted him. Malédon would be a better scorer than Ntilikina, but he will never be sellfish as LaMelo Ball or Killian Hayes. In International Basketball I would prefer to see Malédon as 1st PG, Ntilikina and Strazel as 2d and 3rd, and Hayes as a SG.

[a-French-Fan]

So are you think more of a Vassell at this spot then?

Someone you know can be a starter with shooting and defense rather then taking this risk on deni even though he has more playmaking but there are more quesitons about his shot?

I think i like Vassell or Haliburton a little better then Deni. They are all kinda close. Overall, i am not sure i am buying Deni has way more upside then tjose guys either.

I may actually lean towards Haliburton for his passing. Even if hes not a high usage pg, there could be some upside as an all around player.

Maybe overall, Onyeka is the best available. I haven't really watched enough of him tbh. Think he is someone that will probably go before our pick, unless we move up. And if we move upwe will probably take someone else.

I think all your points are fair and totally understand your point. I personally obviously have faith in Frank a lot so I think a lot of what Haliburton currently brings Frank also brings for this team. Outside of the shooting which Haliburton already has a track record for a much better shooter).

But if Frank say gets to 35% and lets says early on Haliburton is 38-40% is that enough of a difference without major gaps in all the other areas (passing, defense, basketball iq). To warrant picking him?

I guess if you are someone that doesn't believe in Franks development I think its very fair then to want to select Haliburton that high.

You still believe In Frank's development, and I applause for this
But... Still you really believe in Frank's development with Knicks?

Actually, If Kenny Atkinson is not the next Head Coach, I would like to see Frank with an other team (Detroit, Orlando or Utah ).

[mpharris36]

I think i like Vassell or Haliburton a little better then Deni. They are all kinda close. Overall, i am not sure i am buying Deni has way more upside then tjose guys either.

I may actually lean towards Haliburton for his passing. Even if hes not a high usage pg, there could be some upside as an all around player.

Maybe overall, Onyeka is the best available. I haven't really watched enough of him tbh. Think he is someone that will probably go before our pick, unless we move up. And if we move upwe will probably take someone else.

I think all your points are fair and totally understand your point. I personally obviously have faith in Frank a lot so I think a lot of what Haliburton currently brings Frank also brings for this team. Outside of the shooting which Haliburton already has a track record for a much better shooter).

But if Frank say gets to 35% and lets says early on Haliburton is 38-40% is that enough of a difference without major gaps in all the other areas (passing, defense, basketball iq). To warrant picking him?

I guess if you are someone that doesn't believe in Franks development I think its very fair then to want to select Haliburton that high.

You still believe In Frank's development, and I applause for this
But... Still you really believe in Frank's development with Knicks?

Actually, If Kenny Atkinson is not the next Head Coach, I would like to see Frank with an other team (Detroit, Orlando or Utah ).

There is a good majority of knick fans that believe in Franks development. You probably are referencing the a small minority who dislike him. Many people appreciate what he brings to the table as a young unselfish defensive minded player. I think we would all like him to shoot it at a higher clip and ideally he get up to a league avg 3 point shooter which would then make him a very valuable role player that compliments your star players.

The knicks didn't have too many bright spots this year I think a lot of fans saw more and more signs that Frnak has a chance to carve out a nice role here, and I know Kenny Atkinson is also a big fan and great with player development so I would love to see him under Atkinsons tuteledge.