Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce

[Pointgod]

Looks like it's on for at least 3 and possibly 4 debates.

Thoughts?

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-will-debate-trump-scheduled-jill-biden-says-dismisses-democrats-urging-him-not-1522824

Joe Biden Will Debate Trump as Scheduled, Jill Biden Says, Dismisses Democrats Urging Him Not To
BY BENJAMIN FEARNOW ON 8/4/20 AT 5:31 PM EDT

Dr. Jill Biden, the wife of presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, said her husband will absolutely be at the scheduled debates with President Donald Trump this fall—rejecting the suggestion of some strategists who urged Biden not to give Trump the platform.

In an interview with Fox News' Dana Perino Tuesday, Jill Biden responded to several Democratic strategists and pundits who have for months suggested the former vice president not share a debate stage for their three scheduled face-offs this fall.

Biden said she had not even heard the recommendations from former White House Press Secretary Joe Lockhart and others who advised her husband, "whatever you do, don't debate Trump." Several Biden supporters, and even some conservative critics of Trump, have urged Biden not to allow Trump to pick up steam as he did against Hillary Clinton in 2016 when the two met for several debates during that election cycle.

"Wondering if you can settle this for us: will the former vice president debate President Trump this fall?" Perino asked Dr. Biden Tuesday.

"Oh yes, he will. I think they've already - I think there's three debates they've decided on. So, yes. He will be there," Biden said, dismissing strategists like Lockhart by saying those individuals "will make up their own mind."

-more-

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/04/trump-biden-debates-calendar-391503

“We want those three and one earlier than the rest,” Tim Murtaugh, Trump’s communications director, told POLITICO.

“President Trump is looking forward to debating Joe Biden, who is the only one who is being publicly advised to skip debates,” Murtaugh said. “Voters in 16 states will already be casting their early votes before the first debate takes place on September 29th as the schedule stands now. We don’t think it’s too much to ask that Americans get a look at the two candidates side-by-side before voters start voting.”

I'll be shocked if Biden debates Trump. That dude B losin his mind.
Watch the last few seconds and not the topic and note what Biden said to this man.

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I’m sure the same person that posted this is completely unbiased

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[Fat Kat]

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[Clyde_Style]

Kentucky polls are on a rollercoaster ride, so probably completely unpredictable, but it may be in play

Quinnipiac now has Mitch up by 5 points

[Clyde_Style]

One thing to keep in mind as to why Trump will be convicted in New York: They've got tapes.

This is not just about tax records yielding proof of fraud.

This is about years of surveillance of the Trump Organization well prior to 2016. The phone calls of Trump and some of his accomplices like Felix Sater or Kushner were bugged a long time ago.

None of this was really triggered by him being elected President. Trump was already a RICO target before his candidacy. It simply made it that much more serious as the offenses then transgressed from financial crimes into treason.

The irony here is that if for any reason Trump can escape federal charges, then he may never get charged with treason, yet New York state most likely is sitting on a pile of tapes documenting their interactions with Russian nationals, Russian bankers, Russian diplomats, Russian go-betweens (yes, all four are different categories and all four intersected with Trump).

But if Trump cannot get a pardon that sticks, then NY State has plenty of tape to give the DoJ about treason committed in Trump Tower.

Still, those Russian interctions in many instances touch upon money laundering and/or financial fraud (banking disclosures, hiding assets, insurance fraud, campaign finance fraud, etc.). IOW, Trump is screwed on the state level regardless of the future implications for treason charges.

In sum, Tish James has been sitting on a trove of evidence the whole time. Deutsche Bank turning over Trump and Kushner's records was the missing ingredient. Now they can bake the cake.

NOTE: I'm assuming the Grand Jury charges being formulated against Trump will be handed down by the Manhattan AG Vance, not James, though all of the above should be interchangeable in terms of viable evidence for the prosecution.

[robillionaire]

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can't blame any outside actors for this. this is what we are.

[HarthorneWingo]

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can't blame any outside actors for this. this is what we are.

I'd love to see the demographic breakdown on that, i.e. % of educated vs. uneducated, rural vs. urban, over 45 vs. under 45.

I know a lot of them live in my neighborhood.

[HarthorneWingo]

I have an unrelated question. Why are all of the ads on this web page on my iPhone in Spanish? It’s also on YouTube. Don’t get me wrong, Spanish is a beautiful language and I hope one day to speak some. I just want to know que?

Stop searching for Lusty Latinas you old dirty bastard.

It's just a friend of mine that say
Hey, what's the matter, man?
We're gonna come around at twelve
With some Puerto Rican girls that are just dying to meetchu
We're gonna bring a case of wine
Hey, let's go mess and fool around
You know, like we USED to

[HarthorneWingo]

And Treasury Secretary Warren God willing.

I don’t think we can afford to take any Senate Democrats away from their Senate seats for fear of losing what will hopefully be a Democratic majority there.

By the time Biden names his cabinet we should know the outcome of the election. If there’s a healthy lead in the Senate, like let’s say 4-5 seat lead you can replace Warren knowing that eventually she’ll be replaced by another Democrat. The State House and Senate can also write rules limiting who the governor can choose to replace her in case you don’t trust a Republican Governor in a blue state.

Did you actually say "4-5 seat lead" in the Senate? What path to that result are you looking at? I admit to not being up on all the Senate races and the numbers needed to take it back, so please clue me in. My understanding is we need to win back 4 seats to take back the majority. But, if I understand you correctly, you're talking about taking back another 4-5 on top of that. I haven't heard that before.

[HarthorneWingo]

The entire Obama team is going to run the show if everything falls into place. Everything else is besides the point. They're going to tell Joe what to do.

Team Biden:

-Jill Biden
-Barack
-Michelle
-Billary will try desperately to get involved in EVERYTHING

I believe Pelosi stipulated to give up her Speakership after Trump's first term. ("From my dead hands!")

Also, assuming we take back the Senate, we desperately need a new Senate Leader. Schumer is pathetic. I'd prefer Amy Schumer over Chuck.

[Clyde_Style]

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can't blame any outside actors for this. this is what we are.

You grew up in Kentucky so you probably knew this a long time ago, but as a New Yorker who also lived in other cities and fairly liberal enclaves I was not prepared for what I've experienced in Florida. Now I know what a lot of America really is and it ain't pretty.

[robillionaire]

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can't blame any outside actors for this. this is what we are.

You grew up in Kentucky so you probably knew this a long time ago, but as a New Yorker who also lived in other cities and fairly liberal enclaves I was not prepared for what I've experienced in Florida. Now I know what a lot of America really is and it ain't pretty.

I was actually born in Tampa. Moved to Kentucky when I was 7, but moved back and forth to Florida a few times in high school as well. My mom still lives there in Ocala. Central Florida is truly a nightmare. Stay away from the villages lol. I once thought about moving back because I had fond memories of living there as a kid in the 80s but who would do that in this day and age? Especially with climate change pretty much guaranteed to swallow the state or get you with a hurricane. They should sell houses for $1

[HarthorneWingo]

I'm LMAO watching Joy Reid cosey up to Bernie-backed Black progressives like Charles Booker and Jamall Bowman after the way she dogged Bernie since '16. Unfckingbelievable. MSNBC sucks, except for Hayes.

What's the female equivolent to an "Uncle Tom"? That's what Joy Reid is.

[HarthorneWingo]

Lindsey Graham got his shytting pants on

[Pointgod]

I don’t think we can afford to take any Senate Democrats away from their Senate seats for fear of losing what will hopefully be a Democratic majority there.

By the time Biden names his cabinet we should know the outcome of the election. If there’s a healthy lead in the Senate, like let’s say 4-5 seat lead you can replace Warren knowing that eventually she’ll be replaced by another Democrat. The State House and Senate can also write rules limiting who the governor can choose to replace her in case you don’t trust a Republican Governor in a blue state.

Did you actually say "4-5 seat lead" in the Senate? What path to that result are you looking at? I admit to not being up on all the Senate races and the numbers needed to take it back, so please clue me in. My understanding is we need to win back 4 seats to take back the majority. But, if I understand you correctly, you're talking about taking back another 4-5 on top of that. I haven't heard that before.

Look at the Senate map.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/senate/2020_elections_senate_map.html

There are 9 toss ups here. Colorado, Arizona, Maine, Michigan, NC all lean Dem. Remember this map has already assumed Doug Jones loses and one of the Georgia seats goes to Republicans. Then you have Iowa, Montana (Steve Bullock is a strong candidate and he was Governor), the other Georgia seat and South Carolina. Again this isn’t even taking into account that Texas is in play, Kansas and the other Georgia seat as well. The map is just unfavourable for Republicans and it’s a Presidential election year. It could be a blue blood bath.

[HarthorneWingo]

By the time Biden names his cabinet we should know the outcome of the election. If there’s a healthy lead in the Senate, like let’s say 4-5 seat lead you can replace Warren knowing that eventually she’ll be replaced by another Democrat. The State House and Senate can also write rules limiting who the governor can choose to replace her in case you don’t trust a Republican Governor in a blue state.

Did you actually say "4-5 seat lead" in the Senate? What path to that result are you looking at? I admit to not being up on all the Senate races and the numbers needed to take it back, so please clue me in. My understanding is we need to win back 4 seats to take back the majority. But, if I understand you correctly, you're talking about taking back another 4-5 on top of that. I haven't heard that before.

Look at the Senate map.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/senate/2020_elections_senate_map.html

There are 9 toss ups here. Colorado, Arizona, Maine, Michigan, NC all lean Dem. Remember this map has already assumed Doug Jones loses and one of the Georgia seats goes to Republicans. Then you have Iowa, Montana (Steve Bullock is a strong candidate and he was Governor), the other Georgia seat and South Carolina. Again this isn’t even taking into account that Texas is in play, Kansas and the other Georgia seat as well. The map is just unfavourable for Republicans and it’s a Presidential election year. It could be a blue blood bath.

[BKlutch]

Don't worry Donald!

I'm coming to rescue you!

Spoiler:

And if things don't work out you can always hide out at my dacha.

That's actually a line from the song, "Putin on the Ritz [cracker]"

[HarthorneWingo]

I have an unrelated question. Why are all of the ads on this web page on my iPhone in Spanish? It’s also on YouTube. Don’t get me wrong, Spanish is a beautiful language and I hope one day to speak some. I just want to know que?

the targeted ads that you get on these websites are all based on your browser history and cookies. i'm not going to speculate on why. some might suggest maybe you have a big booty latina fetish but i'm not going to do that. clear your browser history and cookies

Those visits to porncubo

Let's go Chicas to the porncubo.

[BallSacBounce]

I don’t think we can afford to take any Senate Democrats away from their Senate seats for fear of losing what will hopefully be a Democratic majority there.

By the time Biden names his cabinet we should know the outcome of the election. If there’s a healthy lead in the Senate, like let’s say 4-5 seat lead you can replace Warren knowing that eventually she’ll be replaced by another Democrat. The State House and Senate can also write rules limiting who the governor can choose to replace her in case you don’t trust a Republican Governor in a blue state.

Did you actually say "4-5 seat lead" in the Senate? What path to that result are you looking at? I admit to not being up on all the Senate races and the numbers needed to take it back, so please clue me in. My understanding is we need to win back 4 seats to take back the majority. But, if I understand you correctly, you're talking about taking back another 4-5 on top of that. I haven't heard that before.

There's a reason you haven't heard it before.

[Clyde_Style]

Don't worry Donald!

I'm coming to rescue you!

Spoiler:

And if things don't work out you can always hide out at my dacha.

That's actually a line from the song, "Putin on the Ritz [cracker]"

[HarthorneWingo]

By the time Biden names his cabinet we should know the outcome of the election. If there’s a healthy lead in the Senate, like let’s say 4-5 seat lead you can replace Warren knowing that eventually she’ll be replaced by another Democrat. The State House and Senate can also write rules limiting who the governor can choose to replace her in case you don’t trust a Republican Governor in a blue state.

Did you actually say "4-5 seat lead" in the Senate? What path to that result are you looking at? I admit to not being up on all the Senate races and the numbers needed to take it back, so please clue me in. My understanding is we need to win back 4 seats to take back the majority. But, if I understand you correctly, you're talking about taking back another 4-5 on top of that. I haven't heard that before.

There's a reason you haven't heard it before.

I dunno. Pointgod crunched the numbers and presented what appears to be a very persuasive argument. Mr. BallSac, what say you?