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2019-2020 College/Draft thread VIII (Knicks own #8 pick, 10/16 DRAFT) - Picking 8 who do you got???

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NY Knicks 2020 Draft - Picking 8 you do you got

Killian Hayes
28
17%
Tyrese Haliburton
19
12%
Onyeka Okongwu
5
3%
Cole Anthony
22
14%
Kira Lewis
20
12%
Obi Toppin
7
4%
Devin Vassell
31
19%
Isaac Okoro
14
9%
Other (write in)
15
9%
 
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2019-2020 College/Draft thread VIII (Knicks own #8 pick, 10/16 DRAFT) - Picking 8 who do you got??? 

Post#1 » by mpharris36 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:13 pm

New draft thread is up.

Lets assume for the sake of argument Edwards, Ball , Wiseman, and Deni are off the board (which seems like a consensus wont be there)

Who would you pick with the #8 pick if there were available?
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Post#2 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:18 pm

Finally a poll in a draft thread...
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Post#3 » by Richard4444 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:19 pm

Those stats about Kira are concerning.

Each time I read, I become more and more convinced that it's better to trade down and risk multiple picks. Its really a crapshoot.
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Post#4 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:20 pm

Why is Coleslaw an option who’s out of our range but Precious isn’t an option when he’s in our range? You’re fired mpharris
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Post#5 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:22 pm

Gun to my head ... Vassell

But I really like Nesmith if we trade down which I hope we do in order to get either another first round pick or move 27 up into the low teens.
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Post#6 » by knickstape4ever » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:22 pm

Strick wrote:I’ve seen people mention the Magic are desperate for money and we have something like 5 million we would use to acquire a pick. They’re sitting at 15. How feasible would getting that pick for the cash, cash and 38, or cash and 27 be?


I would offer them 5.6M in cash + take on the Al Farouq Aminu contract to get #15 (without using #27)

also Philly at #21, they are well over the luxury tax (3.25 tax rate), by simply trading Mike Scott (5M in 2020/21) they'd save a lot of $ (if my math is correct):

including the cap hold for #21, Philly would be at ~149.6M, ~17M above the luxury tax.

by trading Scott (~5M) and #21 (2.4M cap hold), a combined 7.4M in outgoing salary, they'd move down 2 tax bracket's (from 3.25 to 1.75) because they'd go from being ~17M above the tax to ~9.6 above

in terms of $ saved for the 76ers:

before the trade, they'd pay: ~35.25M

after proposed trade: ~15.5M

so by trading Scott + #21 the 76ers would save ~20M (doesn't include potentially sending them the 5.6M cash via trade)

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Post#7 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:23 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Why is Coleslaw an option who’s out of our range but Precious isn’t an option when he’s in our range? You’re fired mpharris


You forgot this:

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Post#8 » by Capn'O » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:24 pm

Trade up.

Killian.
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Post#9 » by mpharris36 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:24 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Finally a poll in a draft thread...
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Post#10 » by knickstape4ever » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:25 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Why is Coleslaw an option who’s out of our range but Precious isn’t an option when he’s in our range? You’re fired mpharris


the real crime is no Nesmith, but Okongwu
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Post#11 » by mpharris36 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:25 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Why is Coleslaw an option who’s out of our range but Precious isn’t an option when he’s in our range? You’re fired mpharris


there are people mocking us Cole Anthony...no one is mocking us Precious
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Post#12 » by mpharris36 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:26 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Why is Coleslaw an option who’s out of our range but Precious isn’t an option when he’s in our range? You’re fired mpharris


the real crime is no Nesmith, but Okongwu


you guys are picky....I have a limited amount of spots to add to the poll....OO is pretty much a consensus top 10 pick...so I put him in there

I like nesmith i just haven't seen him mocked inside the top 10 much would be a trade down option IMO.
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Post#13 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:28 pm

Voted Hayes.

Man, catching up on Onyeka again. He has the potential to be a beast. I dont know who would take him, but think he will be gone before us. Might be the best prospect in the draft. If he is there at #8, think I would have to take him and run. Plenty of time to see if he can work with Mitch.
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Post#14 » by Guano » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:31 pm

Capn'O wrote:Trade up.

Killian.



what would you be cool with using to move up and what range would we have to move up to land him?


I have a hard time justifying giving up any assets when we only have a few. Also, I don't see that much of a difference between him or nesmith, Kira, or Vassell to justify giving up those assets.
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Post#15 » by Capn'O » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:32 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Voted Hayes.

Man, catching up on Onyeka again. He has the potential to be a beast. I dont know who would take him, but think he will be gone before us. Might be the best prospect in the draft. If he is there at #8, think I would have to take him and run. Plenty of time to see if he can work with Mitch.


Yup. If we stay put and he's there we almost have to. He can start with Mitch, especially since Mitch is gonna let it fly next year.
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Post#16 » by Guano » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:32 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Why is Coleslaw an option who’s out of our range but Precious isn’t an option when he’s in our range? You’re fired mpharris


there are people mocking us Cole Anthony...no one is mocking us Precious


i've seen us be mocked Precious... @ 27
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Post#17 » by god shammgod » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:32 pm

hayes is not as likely to be there at 8. not sure he should be on the list. i didn't vote for him for that reason. that's all i got. somebody else find something about this thread to criticize mpharris about. thank you.
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Post#18 » by mpharris36 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:33 pm

god shammgod wrote:hayes is not as likely to be there at 8. not sure he should be on the list. i didn't vote for him for that reason. that's all i got. somebody else find something about this thread to criticize mpharris about. thank you.


he's being mocked to DET at 7 (one spot away from us) a lot and a lot of people have him in and around the 10 range so I think its valid to have him there.
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Post#19 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:34 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Why is Coleslaw an option who’s out of our range but Precious isn’t an option when he’s in our range? You’re fired mpharris


there are people mocking us Cole Anthony...no one is mocking us Precious

Here’s a couple
https://nypost.com/2020/08/20/nba-mock-draft-1-0-anthony-edwards-and-james-wiseman-will-go-1-2/?_gl=1*pywbpg*_ga*YW1wLV9aQU9feUZnbzVQZFA5enhtSWR5cEpDdWNPTXViWnp0aFlsZjNnWVlpcEN4R0RWRlVoVUR2WUtGTC1FOHJxOTA.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/chicago.suntimes.com/platform/amp/bulls/2020/8/20/21394850/bulls-move-up-to-no-4-nba-draft-lottery-mock-draft

DX literally has him at #9. He deserves to be on the poll
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Post#20 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:34 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Voted Hayes.

Man, catching up on Onyeka again. He has the potential to be a beast. I dont know who would take him, but think he will be gone before us. Might be the best prospect in the draft. If he is there at #8, think I would have to take him and run. Plenty of time to see if he can work with Mitch.


They will clog the paint together. We need solid outside shooting which I why I like Nesmith so much, just not at 8.
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