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blueNorange wrote:

blanko wrote:Lets be honest, what can be said now that hasnt been said already? Is value is at an all time low. We might as well let tibs and the coaches work on him to up his value.

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there's no guarantee he even gets minutes under thibs.

thibs literally has no attachment to him.

His value cant get much lower.
Trade him for what? What can we get for him than another failed lottery pick?
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blanko wrote:

blueNorange wrote:

blanko wrote:Lets be honest, what can be said now that hasnt been said already? Is value is at an all time low. We might as well let tibs and the coaches work on him to up his value.

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there's no guarantee he even gets minutes under thibs.

thibs literally has no attachment to him.

His value cant get much lower.
Trade him for what? What can we get for him than another failed lottery pick?
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We thought dsjr value couldn't get any lower after KP trade dsjr proved us wrong.

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Jimmit79 wrote:

blanko wrote:

blueNorange wrote:there's no guarantee he even gets minutes under thibs.

thibs literally has no attachment to him.

His value cant get much lower.
Trade him for what? What can we get for him than another failed lottery pick?
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We thought dsjr value couldn't get any lower after KP trade dsjr proved us wrong.

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We'd be lucky to get a second round pick for either of them. I just want Smith off the team. Knox can hang around another year.

HarthorneWingo wrote:

Jimmit79 wrote:

blanko wrote:His value cant get much lower.
Trade him for what? What can we get for him than another failed lottery pick?
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We thought dsjr value couldn't get any lower after KP trade dsjr proved us wrong.

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We'd be lucky to get a second round pick for either of them. I just want Smith off the team. Knox can hang around another year.

Give them 1 more year each
Smith had rough year, hopefully he has got past it.Back injury doesnt bode well tho

knicks78 wrote:

HarthorneWingo wrote:

Jimmit79 wrote:We thought dsjr value couldn't get any lower after KP trade dsjr proved us wrong.

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We'd be lucky to get a second round pick for either of them. I just want Smith off the team. Knox can hang around another year.

Give them 1 more year each
Smith had rough year, hopefully he has got past it.Back injury doesnt bode well tho

I have no problem with that so long as DSJ doesn't sulk and show a bad attitude which I saw a little bit of last season. Maybe he just got down on himself, which I can see. I have no problem otherwise with giving him another year. I hope he takes advantage of it bc he's getting a fresh start with the new regime.

Besides, Frank likes him. I actually think that if DSJ got his act together, he and Frank could be great together in the same backcourt.

So uhh what does OKC see in Knox that we don't?

KnicksGadfly wrote:So uhh what does OKC see in Knox that we don't?

Rookie contract and full rebuild

KnicksGadfly wrote:So uhh what does OKC see in Knox that we don't?

OKC probably trying to save tax money I don't see them crazy for Knox just a throw in cause he's cheap and young.

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Is Knox a keeper or a bust? --

cooch2584 wrote:

KnicksGadfly wrote:So uhh what does OKC see in Knox that we don't?

Rookie contract and full rebuild

Who’s to say it’s not the Knicks saying you have to take Knox and his overpriced rookie deal, because we don’t want to deal with the idea of having to find Knox minutes to play at the cost of playing time for other draft picks this year? Same goes for DSJr, any develop time given to him means less time for whoever else is on the roster. Unfortunately playing time is a zero sum game.

KnicksGadfly wrote:So uhh what does OKC see in Knox that we don't?

Isnt his boy over there?

Personally I feel Knox is going to be a very very good player. After the crazy coaching experiences he's had in the FIRST YEARS of the NBA, he's got a REAL coach in Thibs, same for Frank.

Consequently, it'll be real real stupid to now trade Knox after hiring Kenny Payne.

Zenzibar wrote:Personally I feel Knox is going to be a very very good player. After the crazy coaching experiences he's had in the FIRST YEARS of the NBA, he's got a REAL coach in Thibs, same for Frank.

Consequently, it'll be real real stupid to now trade Knox after hiring Kenny Payne.

I think we end up keeping Knox too. And I sure hope I regret all the **** I've been talking.

-YogiBiz- wrote:

Zenzibar wrote:Personally I feel Knox is going to be a very very good player. After the crazy coaching experiences he's had in the FIRST YEARS of the NBA, he's got a REAL coach in Thibs, same for Frank.

Consequently, it'll be real real stupid to now trade Knox after hiring Kenny Payne.

I think we end up keeping Knox too. And I sure hope I regret all the **** I've been talking.

Spoiler:

Zenzibar wrote:

-YogiBiz- wrote:

Zenzibar wrote:Personally I feel Knox is going to be a very very good player. After the crazy coaching experiences he's had in the FIRST YEARS of the NBA, he's got a REAL coach in Thibs, same for Frank.

Consequently, it'll be real real stupid to now trade Knox after hiring Kenny Payne.

I think we end up keeping Knox too. And I sure hope I regret all the **** I've been talking.

Spoiler:

Me hoping Knox figures it out next year:

His trade value is at an all time low. Makes no sense to get rid of him now.

To dump him for next to nothing at this juncture is irresponsible. Give him the opportunity to at least try and up his trade value.

Oscirus wrote:

KnicksGadfly wrote:So uhh what does OKC see in Knox that we don't?

Isnt his boy over there?

Yes, SGA was his boy in college.

If we can get a mid-first round pick, I'd jump on it.

Cookies4Life wrote:His trade value is at an all time low. Makes no sense to get rid of him now.

To dump him for next to nothing at this juncture is irresponsible. Give him the opportunity to at least try and up his trade value.

What you say makes sense if you think he's going to get better. If he doesn't, then we've lost the "hope" part of whatever value he had before we decided to keep him this coming season.

I think The Costanza Rule may apply here. There's some nice talent in the second half of the first round. How much better do you think Knox is going to get? I just don't see it happening.

Zenzibar wrote:Personally I feel Knox is going to be a very very good player. After the crazy coaching experiences he's had in the FIRST YEARS of the NBA, he's got a REAL coach in Thibs, same for Frank.

Consequently, it'll be real real stupid to now trade Knox after hiring Kenny Payne.

What do u have against Kenny Payne?