K-DOT wrote: robillionaire wrote:
K-DOT wrote:I'm also gonna keep pointing out how poorly his team played
Especially if you're gonna say "look what he did in the NBL against grown men," I have to also again point out his team was the worst scoring team in the league and least efficient from the field
Sure, he could be a generational passer at 6'8, but he's significantly more raw at running a team than people like to admit. I think he has the biggest boom/bust potential in the draft, and especially considering how raw his scoring and defense are, I would be hesitant to take him
I like Haliburton, but you could also sell me on reaching for Kira over trading up for LaMelo.
It's not like Haliburton or Kira's teams were very good either, they were both near the bottom of their respective conferences. And they were both 2nd year players in college, which means they should dominate. Haliburton can't get by NBA defenders, or college defenders, there is no debate to be had there. LaMelo isn't slow, he has a quick first step and a great to arguably elite handle. We have video of LaMelo using his moves to blow by his defenders, or just putting them on skates. sure that won't be as easy in the NBA but he has just as good of a chance as anybody else would and his unique height is going to give him advantages as well. He will be one of the best rebounders at the position and this will lead to him being able to push the break. Haliburton has a similar thin frame but without the handle or the agility to create space to shoot off the dribble.
people who don't want him are hanging on to that 25% figure in 12 game sample size not giving him any benefit that there's an adjustment period or anything like that and hoping that it tells the story of his entire career and it will prove to be a mistake
But neither of them are supposed to be generational passers
Also, the record isn't what I'm looking at, it's team offense
Ball's team was dead last in offense in his league in points and efficiency
Iowa State was 2nd in their conference in points, 5th in efficiency (out of 10, so middle of the pack)
Alabama was 1st in their conference in points, 2nd in efficiency
Their team's problems were on defense, where Bama was 4th worst in the SEC, and Iowa State was last by a wide margin. Which is in part to Haliburton and Kira, but not mostly on them.
I'm not sure what we are supposed to read into that, he played in 12 games and his team was already the worst team before he got there and couldn't even make wide open shots and dunks, yet he still averaged high assists with an impressive assist to turnover ratio, and then after he left they were still the worst team. Obviously his own shooting efficiency was bad so that brought the overall team's down as well, I'm not letting him off the hook for that. But I'm not going to not pick him based on the fact he couldn't go down there to an adult pro league at 18 and work miracles with those bums in a dozen games and make them learn how to make shots, the team was just bad. I imagine when he's playing with actual talent he will look that much better.