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Should the Knicks pursue Morey?

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Should the Knicks Pursue Morey?

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Re: Should the Knicks pursue Morey? 

Post#61 » by WargamesX » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:44 pm

Phish Tank wrote:I see the NBA Media community has begun the process of eulogizing Morey. Yes, he made analytics mainstream and he introduced various trade quirks like reverse pick protections to make the most out a dollar. But let's stop saying all the faults are on the owner. Morey made these moves and should be held culpable for them.

CP3 extension, Westbrook trade, Eric Gordon contract, trading picks away, all that stuff isn't just on the owner. It's on him.

The rest of the league has formed analytics teams. Outside of the Westbrook/George trades, teams also aren't giving away picks like Halloween. The competitive advantage has evened out. Morey's plan just didn't work this season and the 3s or bust approach he embraced with D'Antoni isn't a result of a ownership that doesn't want to spend money.

The Ringer, The Jump, and the rest gotta stop eulogizing Morey. Please.


This is how I feel exactly. He made bad moves because he thought they would be successful. Investing so heavily in D’antoni and his system was one of them. In hindsight the best thing he ever did was hoodwink Presti for Harden and considering the owner didn’t want to pay the money to keep Harden..... he Kind of got lucky. Considering Presti then got him to pay for a CP3/Westbrook trade that was a wash...... The Harden trade seems even less special.
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Re: Should the Knicks pursue Morey? 

Post#62 » by KnicksGadfly » Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:09 am

If this is true...

"That trade was made because Tilman Fertitta wanted it made -- he thought Chris Paul's contract was the worst that he'd ever seen in business or sports -- and because James Harden wanted it made. James Harden, obviously there was a personality clash, this stuff has all been well documented and well reported. I still believe, and I wrote this last summer before things went down. I still believe that if necessary they could have managed that situation; I know a lot of people throughout the organization believe that.

But once Westbrook became available, they saw an opportunity that Fertitta and Harden wanted to pounce on, and they pounced on that. Daryl Morey was the biggest Chris Paul backer in the organization. Nobody -- Daryl or anybody else -- has ever told me that he made that trade with objections, that he made that trade despite not fully believing in it. But I just can't help but think that it was a deal where basically, his two bosses -- Fertitta and Harden -- said 'hey, we want this deal made, get it done.' And he did what he had to do to get it done."

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/rockets-owner-tilman-fertitta-thought-chris-paul-had-the-worst-contract-hed-ever-seen-per-report/?fbclid=IwAR2JPTpmmVUhbLzeQvj1fm72r9wSxmzNpChJ056afq0qMQB-eFp_lXTx0JE

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Re: Should the Knicks pursue Morey? 

Post#63 » by knickabocker88 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:55 am

Paul doesn't get hurt, then they win a Title.

I don't think he's anti midrange

Also a GM can only do so much, they missed makeable shots too in that game 7 & Harden was too stubborn and didn't stop playing for the whistle in the playoffs.
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Re: Should the Knicks pursue Morey? 

Post#64 » by GONYK » Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:52 pm

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Is god shammgod really Morey?
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Re: Should the Knicks pursue Morey? 

Post#65 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:23 am

WargamesX wrote:
Phish Tank wrote:I see the NBA Media community has begun the process of eulogizing Morey. Yes, he made analytics mainstream and he introduced various trade quirks like reverse pick protections to make the most out a dollar. But let's stop saying all the faults are on the owner. Morey made these moves and should be held culpable for them.

CP3 extension, Westbrook trade, Eric Gordon contract, trading picks away, all that stuff isn't just on the owner. It's on him.

The rest of the league has formed analytics teams. Outside of the Westbrook/George trades, teams also aren't giving away picks like Halloween. The competitive advantage has evened out. Morey's plan just didn't work this season and the 3s or bust approach he embraced with D'Antoni isn't a result of a ownership that doesn't want to spend money.

The Ringer, The Jump, and the rest gotta stop eulogizing Morey. Please.


This is how I feel exactly. He made bad moves because he thought they would be successful. Investing so heavily in D’antoni and his system was one of them. In hindsight the best thing he ever did was hoodwink Presti for Harden and considering the owner didn’t want to pay the money to keep Harden..... he Kind of got lucky. Considering Presti then got him to pay for a CP3/Westbrook trade that was a wash...... The Harden trade seems even less special.


Morey is well known for making himself accessible to reporters and also stroking them.

That's how articles like those get written. Because enough reporters feel like "pals" with Morey.

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