2020 Presidential Election Thread presents: The Aftermath

[HarthorneWingo]

Shyt's really fcked up when I come to the Politics thread in order to escape the stress and angst of the Knicks' offseason threads.

[Clyde_Style]

Shyt's really fcked up when I come to the Politics thread in order to escape the stress and angst of the Knicks' offseason threads.

[Clyde_Style]

Trump shut down by PA courts again

[thebuzzardman]

Trump shut down by PA courts again

If only they cared about legal results instead of conducting a coup by PR.

[aq_ua]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/23/gsa-acknowledges-biden-victory-kicking-off-transfer-of-power-439875

More than two weeks after clinching electoral victory, President-elect Joe Biden can finally start his formal transition to the White House.

The General Services Administration has formally acknowledged Biden as the apparent winner of the 2020 presidential election, allowing his team to get working on the logistics of the transition, with President Donald Trump announcing the move in a tweet on Monday evening. By law, the president-elect cannot access federal transition funds or contact federal agencies to plan staffing until the GSA recognizes him as the electoral winner.

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[thebuzzardman]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/23/gsa-acknowledges-biden-victory-kicking-off-transfer-of-power-439875

More than two weeks after clinching electoral victory, President-elect Joe Biden can finally start his formal transition to the White House.

The General Services Administration has formally acknowledged Biden as the apparent winner of the 2020 presidential election, allowing his team to get working on the logistics of the transition, with President Donald Trump announcing the move in a tweet on Monday evening. By law, the president-elect cannot access federal transition funds or contact federal agencies to plan staffing until the GSA recognizes him as the electoral winner.

That sow like female getting fired any minute now.

[HarthorneWingo]

Trump shut down by PA courts again

Wasn’t his one minor court victory there overturned? This puts his W-L record at something like 0-21?

Oh the winning!

[Clyde_Style]

Trump shut down by PA courts again

Wasn’t his one minor court victory there overturned? This puts his W-L record at something like 0-21?

Oh the winning!

The judge slammed their gavel and said "You're Overturned!"

[Clyde_Style]

OK, this election fraud monkey business is almost dead and soon buried and the transition has officially begun.

I'm assuming the next question will be: Is Trump going to pardon himself?

The answer: Yes

The outcome: It will get challenged in court and probably some time after he leaves the WH a new legal precedent will be set on whether a president can pardon themselves along with a possible definition of the allowable parameters for that if allowed.

The prosecution's argument: Conspiracy to commit crimes that are facilitated by a president who presupposes immunity due to their position should not be an institutional privilege of the presidency.

Additional scenarios and arguments: Should Trump resign in order to collect a pardon from Pence, then the argument will also be you cannot or should not be able to pardon co-conspirators. This may already be baked in to the case if Trump pardons Pence prior to resigning.

Upshot: There is likely a strong chance Trump's pardon of himself and even others will be nullified in court. The purpose of the pardon was not designed for the pardoner to also be the pardonee or for the pardoner to use those powers in order to willfully commit crimes without fear of punishment hence the need to set some constitutional guidelines that either make the pardon stand or be denied.

One thing that could happen IMO is a split verdict, i.e. a president may be able to pardon themselves but only for certain things that are considered too subjective to determine absolute guilt for while denying imnunity from certain provable offenses like treason or espionage.

[HarthorneWingo]

Trump "pardoning himself" won't stop the criminal prosecutions in NY.

[Oscirus]

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[HarthorneWingo]

Staten Island or Long Island?

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[HarthorneWingo]

So where's douche bag BallSac been? I'm a little backed up.

[Phish Tank]

So where's douche bag BallSac been? I'm a little backed up.

which team forum is the equivalent of Parler?

[HarthorneWingo]

So where's douche bag BallSac been? I'm a little backed up.

which team forum is the equivalent of Parler?

The Indian Pacers?

[HarthorneWingo]

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[Jethrobodine123]

It's good to see the transition finally "officially" taking place.

However, we have to remind ourselves that the Republican party would have been just fine with Trump stealing the election and subverting democracy. Just think about that for a second. That's just utterly amazing really. Let's not mince any words here, this was an attempted coup.

I don't subscribe to the thinking of some Democrats that let bygone be bygone and get on with governing without there being some sort of legal ramification for what went on during the past 4 years.

I can't imagine what the incoming group will find when they look behind the closed doors of every single department in the government. It could be epic.

Jethro

[rammagen]

OK, this election fraud monkey business is almost dead and soon buried and the transition has officially begun.

I'm assuming the next question will be: Is Trump going to pardon himself?

The answer: Yes

The outcome: It will get challenged in court and probably some time after he leaves the WH a new legal precedent will be set on whether a president can pardon themselves along with a possible definition of the allowable parameters for that if allowed.

The prosecution's argument: Conspiracy to commit crimes that are facilitated by a president who presupposes immunity due to their position should not be an institutional privilege of the presidency.

Additional scenarios and arguments: Should Trump resign in order to collect a pardon from Pence, then the argument will also be you cannot or should not be able to pardon co-conspirators. This may already be baked in to the case if Trump pardons Pence prior to resigning.

Upshot: There is likely a strong chance Trump's pardon of himself and even others will be nullified in court. The purpose of the pardon was not designed for the pardoner to also be the pardonee or for the pardoner to use those powers in order to willfully commit crimes without fear of punishment hence the need to set some constitutional guidelines that either make the pardon stand or be denied.

One thing that could happen IMO is a split verdict, i.e. a president may be able to pardon themselves but only for certain things that are considered too subjective to determine absolute guilt for while denying imnunity from certain provable offenses like treason or espionage.

I think this whole thing was a delay tactic so he could try to cut a deal and it is failing. The incoming administration will seek charges and then cut a deal. NY state is going to have their piece as well.

The deal will be something like we will expose all the crimes ect if you try to run again and proceed with charges which wont expire after 7 yrs and NY state charges will stick which are the lessor of the crimes. Certain transgressions will be exposed and they need to be to cool the jets of the trumpers who will believe anything the fat liar will say

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