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Post#121 » by Slicin N Dicin » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:13 pm

3 & D..i'm happy with it. The 3 part looks great especially with those percentages and combine/drill numbers. Does his defense match up to what he brings shooting the ball?
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Post#122 » by K-DOT » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:13 pm

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K-DOT wrote:Bold prediction is he has a Tyler Herro season.

Wouldn’t be surprised. For what it’s worth, I always liked him more than Maxey

I never really got the Maxey hype

Nothing really jumped out at me when I watched him. Wouldn't've been mad if we got him, but I didn't see anything special there.
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Re: Immanuel Quickley to the Knicks @ 25 

Post#123 » by KnicksGod » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:13 pm

Don't know him at all other than the stats and watching floaters but isn't it the case that on a deep college roster, with no finish to the season, it's not very reliable that you'd be able to gauge how good of a point guard he'll be? That seems too thin and too jumbled.
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Re: Immanuel Quickley to the Knicks @ 25 

Post#124 » by GONYK » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:14 pm

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K-DOT wrote:Bold prediction is he has a Tyler Herro season.

Wouldn’t be surprised. For what it’s worth, I always liked him more than Maxey

I never really got the Maxey hype

Nothing really jumped out at me when I watched him. Wouldn't've been mad if we got him, but I didn't see anything special there.


Good broad set of skills and pretty nice frame for the position.

I prefer having someone with a surefire bankable skill though. Especially when that skill is shooting.
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Re: Immanuel Quickley to the Knicks @ 25 

Post#125 » by K-DOT » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:15 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Wouldn’t be surprised. For what it’s worth, I always liked him more than Maxey

I never really got the Maxey hype

Nothing really jumped out at me when I watched him. Wouldn't've been mad if we got him, but I didn't see anything special there.


Good broad set of skills and pretty nice frame for the position.

I prefer having someone with a surefire bankable skill though. Especially when that skill is shooting.

I think unless you're very good at everything, having one great skill is better than having a bunch of good skills for role players.
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Re: Immanuel Quickley to the Knicks @ 25 

Post#126 » by SelbyCobra » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:15 pm

Two notes on IQ:

His mom played hoops at Morgan State, and his favorite player of all time is...





...Russell Westbrook.
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Re: Immanuel Quickley to the Knicks @ 25 

Post#127 » by GONYK » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:16 pm

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K-DOT wrote:I never really got the Maxey hype

Nothing really jumped out at me when I watched him. Wouldn't've been mad if we got him, but I didn't see anything special there.


Good broad set of skills and pretty nice frame for the position.

I prefer having someone with a surefire bankable skill though. Especially when that skill is shooting.

I think unless you're very good at everything, having one great skill is better than having a bunch of good skills for role players.


Agreed. It will take some figuring out how to use Maxey.

Even Fizdale would know what to do with Quickley from day 1.
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Post#128 » by KnicksGod » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:17 pm

I know it's almost comical to keep talking about FTs lol ... but 144-156! He can beat Mark Price in HORSE.
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Re: Immanuel Quickley to the Knicks @ 25 

Post#129 » by AkiliNYK » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:18 pm

nyczlegacy wrote:I don't get it

why was he projected to be 2nd rounder/undrafted, maybe his size and non existent PG skills?

Everything on paper and film looks like a solid top 10 pick minus being an undersized scoring guard


It's how Coach Cal used him, he's was his best shooter so he used him in that roll. Remember Cal uses his players not to their strengths but to help him win. Remember Quickley was a Passing PG in H.S I think this kid is our steal of the draft. and I love Toppin don't get me started on him, he will electrify the Garden. This Draft gets a A from me both players are high character, not addicted to video games like Knox was and both played at a high level in school. Then Bringing him the NY breed boy I think we are headed I the right direction.
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Re: Immanuel Quickley to the Knicks @ 25 

Post#130 » by KnicksGod » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:20 pm

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K-DOT wrote:I never really got the Maxey hype

Nothing really jumped out at me when I watched him. Wouldn't've been mad if we got him, but I didn't see anything special there.


Good broad set of skills and pretty nice frame for the position.

I prefer having someone with a surefire bankable skill though. Especially when that skill is shooting.

I think unless you're very good at everything, having one great skill is better than having a bunch of good skills for role players.


Yeah that's the thing. You cling on to that and hopefully his shooting translates off the bat, and he's useful. Useful is not bad in the late 1st. Especially since we badly need shotmakers.

Seems if he was a couple inches taller he's a Lottery Pick.

But I also get that maybe he won't be in the right places at the right time to be an NBA shooter and he's on the small side. Still doesn't make tons of sense but okay.

If he can get off and make shots, he's ideal because it doesn't seem like he'll be getting in RJ's flight path. Don't sleep on RJ as point 2/3.
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Re: Immanuel Quickley to the Knicks @ 25 

Post#131 » by KnicksGod » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:22 pm

K-DOT wrote:
GONYK wrote:
K-DOT wrote:I never really got the Maxey hype

Nothing really jumped out at me when I watched him. Wouldn't've been mad if we got him, but I didn't see anything special there.


Good broad set of skills and pretty nice frame for the position.

I prefer having someone with a surefire bankable skill though. Especially when that skill is shooting.

I think unless you're very good at everything, having one great skill is better than having a bunch of good skills for role players.


And this is the main problem with Knox. He can't get traction because he doesn't do anything well enough yet.
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Re: Immanuel Quickley to the Knicks @ 25 

Post#132 » by Traveyknicks23 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:38 pm

KnicksGod wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
GONYK wrote:
Good broad set of skills and pretty nice frame for the position.

I prefer having someone with a surefire bankable skill though. Especially when that skill is shooting.

I think unless you're very good at everything, having one great skill is better than having a bunch of good skills for role players.


And this is the main problem with Knox. He can't get traction because he doesn't do anything well enough yet.


Which bugs me cause coming out he had a floater and could shoot and now it’s like he can’t do anything but I blame fiz for a lot of that too
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Post#133 » by KnicksGod » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:54 pm

Also because he can shoot you can play Frank with Quick. Quick Frank.
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Re: Immanuel Quickley to the Knicks @ 25 

Post#134 » by br7knicks » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:59 pm

FreeSpiritNY wrote:How do you not draft cassius? This draft sucks.


that's what i wanted at 33
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Post#135 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:44 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:I was missing Toney Douglas. Glad we got another one.


Douglas was lighting it up as a shooting guard until the Knicks decided he would be their PG for some godforsaken reason. Ruined a productive player. Sometimes the organization sucks so bad they ruin decent players
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Post#136 » by robillionaire » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:46 pm

KnicksGod wrote:I know it's almost comical to keep talking about FTs lol ... but 144-156! He can beat Mark Price in HORSE.


he shot 5-6 of them a game too so he's not going to be like one of these guards who shoots a high FT% but never actually gets to the line (Jose calderon, Frank)
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Post#137 » by moocow007 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:50 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:Two notes on IQ:

His mom played hoops at Morgan State, and his favorite player of all time is...





...Russell Westbrook.


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Post#138 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:51 pm

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robillionaire wrote:this came out a few weeks ago if you were trying to read the tea leaves

https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-knicks/knicks-draft-watch-john-calipari-warns-nba-teams-not-to-sleep-on-immanuel-quickley/

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The New York Knicks have met Kentucky Wildcat Immanuel Quickley twice ahead of the 2020 NBA Draft.
Devin Booker and Tyler Herro were two of the most recent former University of Kentucky guards who got overlooked in the NBA Draft.

Immanuel Quickley is poised to be the next sleeper in the Draft from Hall of Fame coach John Calipari’s program.



“Immanuel Quickley was the Player of the Year in our league. He’s right up there with the hardest workers spending the most time in the gym, most committed players that I’ve ever had,” Calipari told Empire Sports Media via Zoom call. “You better give him a second, third, or fourth look before you pass on him because he’s another one.”

Booker and Herro were selected 13th overall in the 2015 and 2019 NBA Draft, respectively. And they have both outplayed their draft position.

With Herro’s rousing rookie season still fresh in league scouts and executives’ minds, the sweet-shooting Quickley has seen his draft stock rise with more and more teams showing strong interest recently.

According to his trainer and former AAU coach Jide Sodipo, Quickley has talked to almost all NBA teams except the Portland Trail Blazers.

And of the 29 teams, Quickley has already interviewed twice with the Knicks, Los Angeles Lakers, Oklahoma City Thunder, Utah Jazz, Milwaukee Bucks, Detroit Pistons, and the Miami Heat.

“They were trying to find out more about his character. Not only about basketball. What kind of a young man he is,” Sodipo told Empire Sports Media over the phone. “And as far as the Knicks are concerned, I think they know more about him more than anybody team in the NBA.”

Of course, the Knicks have former Kentucky lead assistant and chief recruiter Kenny Payne in their fold. Payne has the intel that might help persuade the Knicks front office to take a gamble on Quickley’s potential.

Quickley could be in play for the Knicks’ 27th or even 38th pick if he’s still on board. But Sodipo has a firm belief that his ward won’t last past the first round.

In most scouting reports, Quickly is a scoring guard with a knack for hitting the outside shot. It’s the same type of profile that has made Herro a riser in last year’s NBA Draft.

“He (Immanuel) spaces the court because he’s making threes. It’s what everybody knows. It’s where the league is going right now? You better be able to make threes. If you can’t, you better have some unbelievable talent; you better have ESP or something like that if you can’t shoot. The game has changed,” Calipari said.

Quickley further cemented his status as a reliable scorer when he ended his collegiate career with 20 consecutive double-digit scoring games — the longest streak by a Wildcat since Malik Monk (30) in 2016-17. On top of that, he has also hit at least one three-pointer in his last 11 games, including a career-high eight on his way to a 30-point performance in a 69-60 win against Texas A&M last February.

Quickley has the shooting skill to carve out a role in the modern NBA. But he is more than just a shooter, according to Sodipo.

“People don’t understand that he was a pass-first point guard all of his life. He loves to share the ball and bring out the best in his teammates. But you know, when you go to a school like Kentucky, you have to sacrifice,” Sodipo explained. “Sometimes, you have to play a role. That’s what’s asked of you. What he did was he made the most out of it.”

To better understand and appreciate Quickley, you have to look at the roster makeup of the Wildcats.

During Quickley’s freshman year, Kentucky had a crowded backcourt with Hagans, Herro, and Quade Green.

Then in his sophomore year, Tyrese Maxey came in. Both Maxey (29.2 percent) and Hagans (25.8 percent) didn’t shoot well from the outside, and Quickley quickly jumped into the opportunity.

“Last year we went to three guards. I wasn’t doing that early in the year, but as the year went on, I just said, ‘Immanuel Quickley, he needs to be starting.’ That means somebody else couldn’t start. [Quickley] ended up being Player of the Year in our league, but he trusted me to figure it out.” Calipari said.

After averaging just 5.2 points per game as a freshman, Quickley led the Wildcats in scoring (16.1 ppg), made 3-pointers (62), 3-point percentage (.428), free throws made (144), attempted (156), and free throw percentage (.923) during as a sophomore to become the fifth SEC Player of the Year under Calipari.

That’s part of the myth surrounding former Wildcats who have exploded in the NBA. Because Calipari’s program has been perennially loaded with talent, players like Booker, Herro, Bam Adebayo, and now Quickley have been victims of circumstances that, in a way, held their game back.

That’s one of the biggest reasons why Quickley has the “Sleeper” tag.

“He brings more to the game than just his shooting. You’ve only seen around 50 or 60 percent of his game [in college], I can tell you. And that’s gonna surprise a lot of people,” Sodipo said.


Quickley can get hot quickly on offense. He could find a role similar to what Jamal Crawford and Lou Williams have perfected in their respective long NBA careers — offensive spark off the bench.

Defensively, Quickley has the length (6’9 and 3/4″ wingspan from his Draft Combine measurement last week) and the quickness to be a disruptor.

If there’s anyone who knows Quickley’s game in and out, it’s Sodipo, who’s been coaching Quickley since 2015.

“He can handle the ball. He’s a true point guard that can score. He has a great basketball IQ. He’s great in pick and roll. He’s a great defender and can rebound, and that’s his game that people don’t know unless you really watch his game and go back to his freshman year, his high school years,” Sodipo said.

Quickley was a decorated high school player and was one of the nation’s top point guards. He was a McDonald’s All-American and the 10th best prospect by Rivals.com and 12th by ESPN coming out of high school in 2017.

In his sophomore year, he hit a game-winning three-pointer at the buzzer to lead The John Carroll School Patriots to a 51–50 win over Mount Saint Joseph High School in the Baltimore Catholic League championship. He earned All-Metro Player of the Year recognition.

In his junior year, he averaged 23.7 points and 7.2 assists per game and was named to the First Team All-Metro. As a senior, he normed 20.8 points, 6.7 rebounds, 6.7 assists, and 3.7 steals per game and led the team to the Maryland Interscholastic Athletic Association A Conference title.

He was a shotmaker and a playmaker in high school, but he had to adjust his game in college to fit within Kentucky’s system.

Throughout the years, Sodipo has come to know Quickley deeper than everybody else in the 21-year old’s basketball circle.

“He’s a special young man, very focused. He’s a young man that really loves the game,” Sodipo said.

Quickley comes from a family with a reputable background that speaks volumes of his character.

“His mother is a high school principal. His father is a church minister,” Sodipo said.

Quickley’s faith and a balanced lifestyle have helped him navigate a bumpy collegiate career where he understood that he had to earn his spot despite being a five-star recruit out of high school.

“He’s always in the gym, getting better at his craft. He’s somebody that he wants to get better,” Sodipo said.

“But when he was growing up, he’s played drums and other musical instruments. He’s been studious and religious. He’s a really fine, talented young man.”

Quickley checks all the boxes for teams looking for a high-character guy who has NBA skills to match.

Sodipo has been training him non-stop in a private gym just five minutes from the Quickley’s residence.

“We’ve been working on his game, getting stronger, working on his strength and conditioning, shooting, ball handling, passing drills and everything,” Sodipo said.

Quickley is determined to prove to everyone that he’s more than just a shooter and a sleeper in this unpredictable Draft class.


Very good read

If he is all that then I feel pretty good about this pick


Feel better about this pick after reading that.

Still think the Knicks FO was mediocre on draft night


I'm quite satisfied with this draft actually

The only thing I wish they done was use the 33rd pick, but I'm guessing they already have a deal lined up and know what their roster will be this season so they're banking it for a more loaded draft which is not a bad idea then
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Re: Immanuel Quickley to the Knicks @ 25 

Post#139 » by moocow007 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:52 pm

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nyczlegacy wrote:I don't get it

why was he projected to be 2nd rounder/undrafted, maybe his size and non existent PG skills?

Everything on paper and film looks like a solid top 10 pick minus being an undersized scoring guard


It's how Coach Cal used him, he's was his best shooter so he used him in that roll. Remember Cal uses his players not to their strengths but to help him win. Remember Quickley was a Passing PG in H.S I think this kid is our steal of the draft. and I love Toppin don't get me started on him, he will electrify the Garden. This Draft gets a A from me both players are high character, not addicted to video games like Knox was and both played at a high level in school. Then Bringing him the NY breed boy I think we are headed I the right direction.
Would love to see a Line up of:
Quickley-PG
Barrett-SG
(We need SF) trade for one or Iggy not high on Knox.
Toppin-PF
Mitch-C


Toppin would be spinning like a literal top trying to create his own shot a la Julius Randle in that situation cause...wow...that may be the worst passing team in NBA history.
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Re: Immanuel Quickley to the Knicks @ 25 

Post#140 » by whocares1 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:59 pm

moocow007 wrote:
AkiliNYK wrote:
nyczlegacy wrote:I don't get it

why was he projected to be 2nd rounder/undrafted, maybe his size and non existent PG skills?

Everything on paper and film looks like a solid top 10 pick minus being an undersized scoring guard


It's how Coach Cal used him, he's was his best shooter so he used him in that roll. Remember Cal uses his players not to their strengths but to help him win. Remember Quickley was a Passing PG in H.S I think this kid is our steal of the draft. and I love Toppin don't get me started on him, he will electrify the Garden. This Draft gets a A from me both players are high character, not addicted to video games like Knox was and both played at a high level in school. Then Bringing him the NY breed boy I think we are headed I the right direction.
Would love to see a Line up of:
Quickley-PG
Barrett-SG
(We need SF) trade for one or Iggy not high on Knox.
Toppin-PF
Mitch-C


Toppin would be spinning like a literal top trying to create his own shot a la Julius Randle in that situation cause...wow...that may be the worst passing team in NBA history.


Just looking at that starting five makes me ill.

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