Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) V - Elfrid Payton Sucks

[Capn'O]

Is this a fake account? No blue check mark.

I was gonna leave this alone but then remembered something. If this is actually Ryan McD... OMG. This motherfcker ACTUALLY TRADED FOR PAYTON AND HAD HIM START FOR THE SUNS. The unmitigated gall.

No wonder he got fired and does radio shows now

Womp wah.

[thebuzzardman]

what I always found laughable is the group of fans that come on and complain about other fans "whining" or "complaining" like we have been a model franchise like the spurs and this is just a random bad year and we should be patient and give them a chance. Give me a direction.

Have they been living under a rock for 20 years? This has been the laughing stock franchise in the NBA while having the most loyal fan base behind it and we can't be critical about the direction of this poorly run franchise?

People have every right ot be skepital especially since the same things seem to be repeating themselves early on.

I don't even see that much whining to be honest. People just need to talk their ****, I guess.

And there are people "losing it" for a bit, but it's mostly venting.
Also, there's quite a bit of joking in it, which I wonder if everyone gets.

[mpharris36]

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[NotDikembeSayNo]

what I always found laughable is the group of fans that come on and complain about other fans "whining" or "complaining" like we have been a model franchise like the spurs and this is just a random bad year and we should be patient and give them a chance. Give me a direction.

Have they been living under a rock for 20 years? This has been the laughing stock franchise in the NBA while having the most loyal fan base behind it and we can't be critical about the direction of this poorly run franchise?

People have every right ot be skepital especially since the same things seem to be repeating themselves early on.

I don't even see that much whining to be honest. People just need to talk their ****, I guess.

And there are people "losing it" for a bit, but it's mostly venting.
Also, there's quite a bit of joking in it, which I wonder if everyone gets.

Got your PM but can’t answer yet, guess I need to “participate” more so expect a lot of whining.

[Infinitimind]

Thibs saw enough from DSJ and Frank in that practice to know he wanted Payton

You know its true lol

If you wanna blame anybody for Payton then blame the 2 scrubs that cant outplay him

Knicks refuse to trade for PG or draft one that's also a problem OKC and Pels got so many PGs without giving up much but knocks can only come up with Payton?

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Maybe they want to give the keys to smith jr , you know the main piece we traded for kp. You know what we should have done last year

[thebuzzardman]

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I like Bertans.

But that's 16 million a year, every year, for five years, for Steve Novak.

And I really liked Novak and thought he was a valuable player.

But that's too much. Or too much for a team like the Knicks. And possibly the Wizards, who aren't in great shape either.

[snadler]

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He’s a lock for the Knicks

[thebuzzardman]

I don't even see that much whining to be honest. People just need to talk their ****, I guess.

And there are people "losing it" for a bit, but it's mostly venting.
Also, there's quite a bit of joking in it, which I wonder if everyone gets.

Got your PM but can’t answer yet, guess I need to “participate” more so expect a lot of whining.

Lol. Don't mind me. I bust balls on here even more than I did on those other sites.

[mpharris36]

what I always found laughable is the group of fans that come on and complain about other fans "whining" or "complaining" like we have been a model franchise like the spurs and this is just a random bad year and we should be patient and give them a chance. Give me a direction.

Have they been living under a rock for 20 years? This has been the laughing stock franchise in the NBA while having the most loyal fan base behind it and we can't be critical about the direction of this poorly run franchise?

People have every right ot be skepital especially since the same things seem to be repeating themselves early on.

I don't even see that much whining to be honest. People just need to talk their ****, I guess.

And there are people "losing it" for a bit, but it's mostly venting.
Also, there's quite a bit of joking in it, which I wonder if everyone gets.

I am not joking when Elfrid Payton was the one player I didn't want back on the knicks...like I could take nearly anyone else but him.

[SelbyCobra]

what I always found laughable is the group of fans that come on and complain about other fans "whining" or "complaining" like we have been a model franchise like the spurs and this is just a random bad year and we should be patient and give them a chance. Give me a direction.

Have they been living under a rock for 20 years? This has been the laughing stock franchise in the NBA while having the most loyal fan base behind it and we can't be critical about the direction of this poorly run franchise?

People have every right ot be skepital especially since the same things seem to be repeating themselves early on.

I agree with almost all of this, and I'm more optimistic than most. It's just a lot of time and energy to spend being so upset. I'm as frustrated as the rest, but if all hope is lost - as is routinely and loudly projected via sarcasm and anger in here - then what's the point? There's healthy skepticism, but there's also multiple levels beyond that running around these streets.

[mpharris36]

what I always found laughable is the group of fans that come on and complain about other fans "whining" or "complaining" like we have been a model franchise like the spurs and this is just a random bad year and we should be patient and give them a chance. Give me a direction.

Have they been living under a rock for 20 years? This has been the laughing stock franchise in the NBA while having the most loyal fan base behind it and we can't be critical about the direction of this poorly run franchise?

People have every right ot be skepital especially since the same things seem to be repeating themselves early on.

I agree with almost all of this, and I'm more optimistic than most. It's just a lot of time and energy to spend being so upset. I'm as frustrated as the rest, but if all hope is lost - as is routinely and loudly projected via sarcasm and anger in here - then what's the point? There's healthy skepticism, but there's also multiple levels beyond that running around these streets.

yeah but I don't think anyone is crazy upset. Most damning things I have seen was saying this front office has a level of nepotism (true), unimaginative (true so far), and not having a clear direction (true - they went have Hayward they just lost out).

I haven't seen most say f*ck the knicks what a horrible offseason. I have seen more like, same old same old...not much to compliment so far. Maybe the have a few moves up there sleves to use cap space properly and get more draft capital but that woudl literally suprrise me at this point.

[F N 11]

https://youtu.be/-0mXjUV08sY
Good points by Raw. We brought in guys that won’t hinder the development of the youth. I hope he’s right about Payton not starting. He’s curious about what is going on with Randle because Knox has to get some playing time.

[Richard4444]

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He’s a lock for the Knicks

He plays baseball...

Even so, he can be our better PG.

[MaseInYourFace]

I’m actually chilling. I wasn’t on the boat to waste a whole bunch of money. I would love to trade Randle but worse case he stays and we try again at deadline. Payton is a limited player but it’s one year at low money. I think signing Pinson is a waste of time and could be used on a more talented player. These are shaky moves but not worth getting super upset about either.

[robillionaire]

what I always found laughable is the group of fans that come on and complain about other fans "whining" or "complaining" like we have been a model franchise like the spurs and this is just a random bad year and we should be patient and give them a chance. Give me a direction.

Have they been living under a rock for 20 years? This has been the laughing stock franchise in the NBA while having the most loyal fan base behind it and we can't be critical about the direction of this poorly run franchise?

People have every right ot be skepital especially since the same things seem to be repeating themselves early on.

I agree with almost all of this, and I'm more optimistic than most. It's just a lot of time and energy to spend being so upset. I'm as frustrated as the rest, but if all hope is lost - as is routinely and loudly projected via sarcasm and anger in here - then what's the point? There's healthy skepticism, but there's also multiple levels beyond that running around these streets.

I'm as optimistic as it gets. I've been pumping sunshine on here for years. I'm incredibly patient. Tank commander even. But at some point even I can't explain away terrible moves. Even in the context of a rebuild this was not a good offseason with tons of wasted potential. Cap space that was not used to bring in picks. Missed opportunities in the draft. Thibs as coach, who isn't here to drive a tank. Signing nepotism picks like the former Jazz players Davis and Burks for Perrin, Elfrid Payton for Scott Perry. Noel for Payne. None of it is logically consistent with a team that wanted to rebuild all along. They were trying to win and they just failed in FA. I don't know why it's so hard to admit that. We are in the exact same position we are in last year with Mills at the helm and a bunch of 1 year vets that will stunt the growth of the younger players as they chase the 8 seed and their next contracts, and believe me they will.

[F N 11]

It's going to be a rough season for Obi to be honest, he's going to be playing minutes with Nerlens, Davis, Mitch and presumably Randle, none of them can shoot, which means he's going to have to be the floor spacer.

Obi got this. (I swear, if he even pulls one enjoyable And-1 move this year, I'm all set )

Lol this play and Obi's confidence is the only thing keeping me sane that he can be a decent 3PT shooter at the next level. Cause if he can't we are f*cked

Only great players have such confidence. The flex after he dunks is signature too. Kid is pure energy. I can see him and RJ going off together.

[N Y K]

wes Matthews to lakers

[thebuzzardman]

I don't even see that much whining to be honest. People just need to talk their ****, I guess.

And there are people "losing it" for a bit, but it's mostly venting.
Also, there's quite a bit of joking in it, which I wonder if everyone gets.

I am not joking when Elfrid Payton was the one player I didn't want back on the knicks...like I could take nearly anyone else but him.

Yes. That is serious business

[blueNorange]

yeah but I don't think anyone is crazy upset.

[dakomish23]

Mills would be proud

Except he would never do it for a competent player like this

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