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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) V - Elfrid Payton Sucks 

Post#1601 » by robillionaire » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:37 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:
robillionaire wrote:these are the future things we can be optimistic about:
Toppin, RJ, and Mitch developing into great players
Other young guys developing into serviceable role players
possibility of winning the lottery next summer
the mavs pick if something happens to them (unlikely, they made improvements)
cap space next summer (not getting my hopes up but it's there)


I'd like to add "Even if he ends up a bust, Obi banging on a name brand this season"


"season is only 72 games instead of 82"

:lol:
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Post#1602 » by SelbyCobra » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:38 pm

robillionaire wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:
robillionaire wrote:these are the future things we can be optimistic about:
Toppin, RJ, and Mitch developing into great players
Other young guys developing into serviceable role players
possibility of winning the lottery next summer
the mavs pick if something happens to them (unlikely, they made improvements)
cap space next summer (not getting my hopes up but it's there)


I'd like to add "Even if he ends up a bust, Obi banging on a name brand this season"


"season is only 72 games instead of 82"

:lol:


"Pandemic could turn 72 into 22" :lol:
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Post#1603 » by robillionaire » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:39 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:
I'd like to add "Even if he ends up a bust, Obi banging on a name brand this season"


"season is only 72 games instead of 82"

:lol:


"Pandemic could turn 72 into 22" :lol:


Didn't pay Gordon Hayward 120 million

let's keep it going folks
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Post#1604 » by justin12140 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:39 pm

Zenzibar wrote:In society there are those that are constantly optimistic, while others are pessimistic and then other doomsayers. The board is symbolic of that.
For those that wouldn't know, I've been a fan longer than some have been alive. Anybody remember John Gianelli?

It's easy for some of the naysayers to complain about the front office and say players don't want to be here because of them. But never think for once that the players don't want to come here because of YOU!!!

Examples?
1. The treatment of Stephon was disgusting and Dad was so pained that he suffered a heart attack at MSG from the boos raining down on his son. He of Brooklyn and Abraham Lincoln high school.
2. The booing of DSJ during his family crisis was painful to watch.
3. The treatment of Patrick during his later years was pathetic to watch. Don't believe me, Google it.
4. Mark Jackson was chased out of NY, he of 4th all-time assist and our very own: Queens, St. Johns etc.

That's just some of the few I can remember. Ask yourself before comaplaining about me, if the players around the league don't keep that in mind. Don't be delusional, because they do, trust me. It's not only the bright lights of Broadway but also the dim lights of some of the fans.

SO go ahead, blame Dolan, blame the front offices, coaches etc. and keep ignoring the fanbase's treatment of their own homegrown players.
I just hope we can get behind Obi and give the young man the posiitve energy he needs to bring us closer to the ultimate goal.
But know what? Given some of the posts the last couple of days and past experiences, I have big reservations.


No one knew that DSJ's stepmom had died when he was booed. He was booed in the celtics game cause he played like garbage (in that game and every game before, including Pre-Season while Frank was getting DNPs). It wasn't until the postgame that some journalists had started reporting their was a death in his family. If people had known he obviously wouldn't have been booed
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Post#1605 » by Clyde Frazier » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:39 pm

F N 11 wrote:If this is the starting lineup on opening night is all forgiven?

Frank
Quickley
RJ
Obi
Mitch


Unfortunately, i wouldn't be surprised at all now if it's payton / burks / RJ / randle / mitch :-?
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Post#1606 » by robillionaire » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:40 pm

Clyde Frazier wrote:
F N 11 wrote:If this is the starting lineup on opening night is all forgiven?

Frank
Quickley
RJ
Obi
Mitch


Unfortunately, i wouldn't be surprised at all now if it's payton / burks / RJ / randle / mitch :-?


RJ might not start
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Post#1607 » by BrOnXKing1 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:40 pm

It seems the plan is going to be to play the young guys and hope guys like Frank/DSjr/Knox can develop and increase their value either to keep them or trade them
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Post#1608 » by LibertyKnicks00 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:42 pm

Is Ingram worth throwing money at? RJ-Ingram-Obi-Mitch is pretty serious when they all get their run in
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Post#1609 » by Clyde Frazier » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:42 pm

robillionaire wrote:
Clyde Frazier wrote:
F N 11 wrote:If this is the starting lineup on opening night is all forgiven?

Frank
Quickley
RJ
Obi
Mitch


Unfortunately, i wouldn't be surprised at all now if it's payton / burks / RJ / randle / mitch :-?


RJ might not start
*ducks*


LOL what did we do to deserve this man
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Post#1610 » by newyorker4ever » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:43 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:what I always found laughable is the group of fans that come on and complain about other fans "whining" or "complaining" like we have been a model franchise like the spurs and this is just a random bad year and we should be patient and give them a chance. Give me a direction.

Have they been living under a rock for 20 years? This has been the laughing stock franchise in the NBA while having the most loyal fan base behind it and we can't be critical about the direction of this poorly run franchise?

People have every right ot be skepital especially since the same things seem to be repeating themselves early on.

I don't even see that much whining to be honest. People just need to talk their ****, I guess.


correct, people think we should just accept a signing like Payton or a 2 way deal like Pinson. If this is truly a development year these 2 have no business being on the roster outside of there CAA connection. Which people rightfully have an issue with.

Its called Nepostism


No fans should definitely whine for 100+ pages about giving Elf a 1 year $5 mil deal or signing a player to a two way contract... :lol:
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Post#1611 » by K-DOT » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:45 pm

Clyde Frazier wrote:
F N 11 wrote:If this is the starting lineup on opening night is all forgiven?

Frank
Quickley
RJ
Obi
Mitch


Unfortunately, i wouldn't be surprised at all now if it's payton / burks / RJ / randle / mitch :-?

Please

Payton
Burks
Bullock
Randle
Noel

To the FO, vets=wins. And the primary goal this year is to win as much as possible to attract free agents next year. Therefore, all the non-vets will have to be benched because development happens by watching other guys play.
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Post#1612 » by Clyde Frazier » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:48 pm

K-DOT wrote:
Clyde Frazier wrote:
F N 11 wrote:If this is the starting lineup on opening night is all forgiven?

Frank
Quickley
RJ
Obi
Mitch


Unfortunately, i wouldn't be surprised at all now if it's payton / burks / RJ / randle / mitch :-?

Please

Payton
Burks
Bullock
Randle
Noel

To the FO, vets=wins. And the primary goal this year is to win as much as possible to attract free agents next year. Therefore, all the non-vets will have to be benched because development happens by watching other guys play.


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Post#1613 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:48 pm

Clyde Frazier wrote:
F N 11 wrote:If this is the starting lineup on opening night is all forgiven?

Frank
Quickley
RJ
Obi
Mitch


Unfortunately, i wouldn't be surprised at all now if it's payton / burks / RJ / randle / mitch :-?

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Post#1614 » by Guano » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:48 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:
N Y K wrote:I don't even see that much whining to be honest. People just need to talk their ****, I guess.


correct, people think we should just accept a signing like Payton or a 2 way deal like Pinson. If this is truly a development year these 2 have no business being on the roster outside of there CAA connection. Which people rightfully have an issue with.

Its called Nepostism


No fans should definitely whine for 100+ pages about giving Elf a 1 year $5 mil deal or signing a player to a two way contract... :lol:



we complained in game threads and post game threads and draft threads about Elf for the past year - it's bizarre to think that wouldn't continue when he is resigned.
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Post#1615 » by god shammgod » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:49 pm

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we sign and trade gasol to the lakers for kuzma ? hi mpharris :lol:
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Post#1616 » by newyorker4ever » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:51 pm

MaseInYourFace wrote:I’m actually chilling. I wasn’t on the boat to waste a whole bunch of money. I would love to trade Randle but worse case he stays and we try again at deadline. Payton is a limited player but it’s one year at low money. I think signing Pinson is a waste of time and could be used on a more talented player. These are shaky moves but not worth getting super upset about either.


Good post and this is where i'm at as well. Didn't want Elf back at all but not gonna cry about 1 year at $5 mil and truthfully he actually had some good games for us last year and think he was our top guy with throwing up the nice lobs to MRob so will be fun to watch both MRob and Obi getting the lobs next year. Would rather those lobs come from a real PG that we can actually look at as our future PG but for the rebuild i'm good with whoever wins the starting job out of Frank, DSJ and Elf. Hoping it's Frank.
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Post#1617 » by Knox » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:53 pm

This off-season has been a huge reminder to me that you must get value for your superstars. It is tough to bring someone here without one or two of them. That KP trade for cap space was a ridiculous plan. We had no guarantee or anything locked in to do it. Aside from the recovering reputation as a franchise. We need to be smarter about moving our franchise players. Still can’t believe we didn’t bid on Jimmy Butler
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Post#1618 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:54 pm

Knox wrote:This off-season has been a huge reminder to me that you must get value for your superstars. It is tough to bring someone here without one or two of them. That KP trade for cap space was a ridiculous plan. We had no guarantee or anything locked in to do it. Aside from the recovering reputation as a franchise. We need to be smarter about moving our franchise players. Still can’t believe we didn’t bid on Jimmy Butler



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Post#1619 » by bigfnjoe96 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:56 pm

god shammgod wrote:
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we sign and trade gasol to the lakers for kuzma ? hi mpharris
Do have any picks to make this happen

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Post#1620 » by god shammgod » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:57 pm

bigfnjoe96 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
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we sign and trade gasol to the lakers for kuzma ? hi mpharris
Do have any picks to make this happen

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they traded all their picks for ad. it would literally be like 5 years from now.

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