robillionaire wrote:cgf wrote:robillionaire wrote:
7 or 8 years from now in free agency if he doesn't sign another extension
guys you can't get other team's good rookies, they have a 4 year rookie contract and a max extension that nobody has ever turned down, unless it's like KP and they demand a trade after 3 years and that isn't very common either, that's something that exclusively happens to the knicks, so it's nothing we could ever benefit from
giannis was drafted in 2013 and he still hasn't hit free agency, 2021 would have been the first opportunity and now it's 2026
we have to draft our own good players it's that simple
I dunno about that in this case. Cole looks good so far, but if Fultz can keep building on the progress he made last season; I'd expect the Magic to prefer him moving forward...in which case Anthony could well find himself as tradebait next offseason. Ditto Garland in Cleveland if Sexton picks up where he left off last season & puts up a whole year of 20+ pts on 59% TS...even if he doesn't show much progress at running a team.
Most of the time you are 100% right, but there are certain circumstances where intriguing rookie-scale kids do become available...especially if they are limited to 1 position...and we should have the trade capital to tempt one of those teams into selling off their surplus young PG next summer if the lotto gods don't hook us up.
yeah, note that I said "good rookies" as in, if they look good the team won't move them. But there are opportunities, like how Ingram hadn't broken out yet and got traded because the lakers wanted to make room for lebron. same with deangelo russell. lonzo. you'd have to target a guy that's been around for a couple years but hasn't broken out yet, and their team is trying to clear space and take a gamble on it
Which is fair, I was just jumping off your post because I think that Cole is actually pretty likely to end being one of those available good-rookies next summer...as long as Fultz builds on his progress & doesn't go back to s***...though I suspect the most likely result won't be a Cole for futures trade but a Gordon+Cole for lower-level star trade, I won't be surprised if they move Cole for more ammo first and then wait for the right opportunity to use that ammo + Gordon.
FWIW I'm not actually as high on Cole as it seems some of you are; at least not for our core. He's certainly crafty, so can create danger with his penetration, but I'm not in love with his shot or playmaking at this stage..at least not yet...and those are the parts of the game that I'd like to be our long term PG's biggest strengths. Obviously penetration is important too or you won't be able to create anything...but with our kids, I'd rather have a PG whose offensive game & playmaking is built out from their shooting-gravity, rather than their slashing.
...put another way; (for our core) I'd prefer Trae over Ja and I see Cole as a lot more of a Ja-lite than a Trae-lite at this point in his development.
