[Solved] Ja Morant is light years ahead of Rj Barrett

[thebuzzardman]

Apparently RJ sucks balls. Hopefully Knicks trade this bust soon.

[DrCoach]

I'll take this win but it was a gift.

So from his class, the no brainers you'd rather have than RJ

Ja
Zion
Garland
Herro
Keldon Johnson

the maybes

Poole
PJ Washington
Cam Johnson

Lol

Lol? Break down why he's wrong. Dr. 'RJ is a superstar' Coach



JA, Zion, Garland, Herro are a yes. I don't watch Keldon so it would not be fair for me to compare.

Poole has proven already he's better than RJ.
I'd take Cam Johnson, not sure about PJ, but maybe, yes.

Please enlighten us and explain why you laughed at his comparisons.

Im not going to waste energy with someone who thinks PJ Washington is better than RJ Barret

[nedleeds]

Lol

Lol? Break down why he's wrong. Dr. 'RJ is a superstar' Coach



JA, Zion, Garland, Herro are a yes. I don't watch Keldon so it would not be fair for me to compare.

Poole has proven already he's better than RJ.
I'd take Cam Johnson, not sure about PJ, but maybe, yes.

Please enlighten us and explain why you laughed at his comparisons.

Im not going to waste energy with someone who thinks PJ Washington is better than RJ Barret

OK, I'll waste the energy. Even though I know you won't go look at aDvAnCEd sTAts like field goal percentage.

https://stathead.com/tiny/Gr7vJ

Other than being allowed to destroy his teams offense by chucking and maybe both being mediocre free throw shooters PJ Washington is better at everything. Even more depressing, he's a better shooter, comparable passer, all while being far bigger and playing power forward. Basically RJ is a shooting guard who can't shoot as well as a power forward.

PJ Washington is also a pretty good shot blocker for a 4. Downside is he's almost 24. Maybe in 2 more years of doing nothing but playing basketball RJ can shoot as well as PJ Washington. Let's Hope!





edit: lol RJs 2p% is just so bad.

[Chanel Bomber]

People defending RJ goes through all these complex hoops and scenario building to defend a player who has had ample playing time, no hook at all for being an offense destroying player, and basically been healthy his whole time. If you say well look at his horrific shooting, people are like he doesn't play with a good point guard. When you say well he's useless without the ball since he can't shoot people say he needs the ball in his hands because something about his play making.

There really isn't a whole lot of consistency with the most ardent defense of his game in my opinion.

How do they want him to develop? More as an on-ball player or more as an off-ball player?

Is there any scenario where his play can actually be judged or is there a built-in excuse in every situation?

Because the deflection on the external circumstances (his teammates, coaching, his conditioning) seems to apply either way. It's a closed loop.

RJ plays in more of an off-ball role > His development is being stunted because he's not used as a primary
RJ doesn't perform well as a primary > He is set up to fail because he doesn't play with a competent primary (e.g. a point guard) to run the offense

These two positions are not consistent.

[3toheadmelo]

I’m a big RJ critic but I am def taking RJ over PJ Washington. Come on now.

[nedleeds]

People defending RJ goes through all these complex hoops and scenario building to defend a player who has had ample playing time, no hook at all for being an offense destroying player, and basically been healthy his whole time. If you say well look at his horrific shooting, people are like he doesn't play with a good point guard. When you say well he's useless without the ball since he can't shoot people say he needs the ball in his hands because something about his play making.

There really isn't a whole lot of consistency with the most ardent defense of his game in my opinion.

How do they want him to develop? More as an on-ball player or more as an off-ball player?

Is there any scenario where his play can actually be judged or is there a built-in excuse in every situation?

Because the deflection on the external circumstances (his teammates, coaching, his conditioning) seems to apply either way. It's a closed loop.

RJ plays in more of an off-ball role > His development is being stunted because he's not used as a primary
RJ doesn't perform well as a primary > He is set up to fail because he doesn't play with a competent primary (e.g. a point guard) to run the offense

These two positions are not consistent.

It seems like one side are boxscore Betties who use Mark Jacksonisms like:

"He gets you 20 a night." (even the worst team will score 90 and somebody has to score)
"Not afraid of the moment." (he's an unabashed chucker)
"Not afraid to fail." (gets blocked the second most in the league)
"Needs time." (played the most minutes in his class)
"Needs the ball in his hands." (can't hit water with a **** oar)
"Needs to play with a creator." (can't dribble or create separation)
"Work on his finishing." (can't jump)
"Big time shot maker." (his marquee moment was a bank shot heave game winner)

[KnicksNext]

Lol

Lol? Break down why he's wrong. Dr. 'RJ is a superstar' Coach



JA, Zion, Garland, Herro are a yes. I don't watch Keldon so it would not be fair for me to compare.

Poole has proven already he's better than RJ.
I'd take Cam Johnson, not sure about PJ, but maybe, yes.

Please enlighten us and explain why you laughed at his comparisons.

Im not going to waste energy with someone who thinks PJ Washington is better than RJ Barret

That's because you'll continue to look like someone who doesn't know what he's talking about. And I said maybe.

[robillionaire]

I’m a big RJ critic but I am def taking RJ over PJ Washington. Come on now.

I’m going with PJ Washington, great 3 and D guy!!!

[DrCoach]

I’m a big RJ critic but I am def taking RJ over PJ Washington. Come on now.

Right? PJ lost his starting spot to boot.

A lot of ignorant posters here

[evevale]

People defending RJ goes through all these complex hoops and scenario building to defend a player who has had ample playing time, no hook at all for being an offense destroying player, and basically been healthy his whole time. If you say well look at his horrific shooting, people are like he doesn't play with a good point guard. When you say well he's useless without the ball since he can't shoot people say he needs the ball in his hands because something about his play making.

There really isn't a whole lot of consistency with the most ardent defense of his game in my opinion.

How do they want him to develop? More as an on-ball player or more as an off-ball player?

Is there any scenario where his play can actually be judged or is there a built-in excuse in every situation?

Because the deflection on the external circumstances (his teammates, coaching, his conditioning) seems to apply either way. It's a closed loop.

RJ plays in more of an off-ball role > His development is being stunted because he's not used as a primary
RJ doesn't perform well as a primary > He is set up to fail because he doesn't play with a competent primary (e.g. a point guard) to run the offense

These two positions are not consistent.

It seems like one side are boxscore Betties who use Mark Jacksonisms like:

"He gets you 20 a night." (even the worst team will score 90 and somebody has to score)
"Not afraid of the moment." (he's an unabashed chucker)
"Not afraid to fail." (gets blocked the second most in the league)
"Needs time." (played the most minutes in his class)
"Needs the ball in his hands." (can't hit water with a **** oar)
"Needs to play with a creator." (can't dribble or create separation)
"Work on his finishing." (can't jump)
"Big time shot maker." (his marquee moment was a bank shot heave game winner)

Spoiler:

181/5 -

[Nazrmohamed]

Difference is Ja got the keys to Memphis from day 1 while RJ has had to work his way up. At the end of the day I think that extra grind to prove himself will make RJ the better player. I also don't know how long Ja will be able to play in the style he plays as a small high flyer. More risk of injury than the way RJ plays.

Dude stop. I love RJ too but it is OK to identify that Ja is and will probably remain a better player. It happens. Doesn't mean he has to suck, he's just not in that tier.

[thebuzzardman]

I’m a big RJ critic but I am def taking RJ over PJ Washington. Come on now.

Everyone in that draft, both rounds, is better

[thebuzzardman]

At least we know nedleds is Chanel's burner account

[iLLmatic860]

dam this board treating Rj like he Kevin Knox

[thebuzzardman]

We really also need explore how IQ, Obi, Cam, Mitch and McBride aren't that good. And Sims. And Grimes. Damn. What's wrong with Thibs, playing 8 young guys?

[Chanel Bomber]

At least we know nedleds is Chanel's burner account

We're more like C17 and C18.

Or Dwight Yorke and Andy Cole.

[thebuzzardman]

At least we know nedleds is Chanel's burner account

We're more like C17 and C18.

Or Dwight Yorke and Andy Cole.

Sorry, I don't listen to country music

[Iron Mantis]

Lol? Break down why he's wrong. Dr. 'RJ is a superstar' Coach



JA, Zion, Garland, Herro are a yes. I don't watch Keldon so it would not be fair for me to compare.

Poole has proven already he's better than RJ.
I'd take Cam Johnson, not sure about PJ, but maybe, yes.

Please enlighten us and explain why you laughed at his comparisons.

Im not going to waste energy with someone who thinks PJ Washington is better than RJ Barret

OK, I'll waste the energy. Even though I know you won't go look at aDvAnCEd sTAts like field goal percentage.

https://stathead.com/tiny/Gr7vJ

Other than being allowed to destroy his teams offense by chucking and maybe both being mediocre free throw shooters PJ Washington is better at everything. Even more depressing, he's a better shooter, comparable passer, all while being far bigger and playing power forward. Basically RJ is a shooting guard who can't shoot as well as a power forward.

PJ Washington is also a pretty good shot blocker for a 4. Downside is he's almost 24. Maybe in 2 more years of doing nothing but playing basketball RJ can shoot as well as PJ Washington. Let's Hope!





edit: lol RJs 2p% is just so bad.

RJ is not better than Morant right now...not even close.

But It seems you're going a little over the top with the RJ hate. PJ Washington has good stats, but what is he elite at? I don't watch him play, so IDK.

RJ needs to improve his shooting efficiency that's no secret. That's his weakness. Let's see if his adds some tricks to his bag for next season. But RJ is elite at getting into the paint and #21 in the entire NBA in FTA at 5.8 per game, and shoots the same percentage as your boy PJ.

RJ "keeps coming at you", putting tremendous pressure on the defense, and he is evolving as a playmaker. The entire Knicks team need to get better at FT% though, because they were the 5th worst in the league, leaving a lot of points at the stripe while shooting the 2nd most free throw attempts in the entire NBA. Could have been the difference between missing or making the playoffs.

[Iron Mantis]

I’m a big RJ critic but I am def taking RJ over PJ Washington. Come on now.

Everyone in that draft, both rounds, is better

Undrafted too.

In fact, RJ needs to be sent to the G-League.

Anyone in the entire NBA who has a better shooting % than RJ is clearly the better player now and will have a better career, period.

[Iron Mantis]

Lol? Break down why he's wrong. Dr. 'RJ is a superstar' Coach



JA, Zion, Garland, Herro are a yes. I don't watch Keldon so it would not be fair for me to compare.

Poole has proven already he's better than RJ.
I'd take Cam Johnson, not sure about PJ, but maybe, yes.

Please enlighten us and explain why you laughed at his comparisons.

Im not going to waste energy with someone who thinks PJ Washington is better than RJ Barret

OK, I'll waste the energy. Even though I know you won't go look at aDvAnCEd sTAts like field goal percentage.

https://stathead.com/tiny/Gr7vJ

Other than being allowed to destroy his teams offense by chucking and maybe both being mediocre free throw shooters PJ Washington is better at everything. Even more depressing, he's a better shooter, comparable passer, all while being far bigger and playing power forward. Basically RJ is a shooting guard who can't shoot as well as a power forward.

PJ Washington is also a pretty good shot blocker for a 4. Downside is he's almost 24. Maybe in 2 more years of doing nothing but playing basketball RJ can shoot as well as PJ Washington. Let's Hope!





edit: lol RJs 2p% is just so bad.

RJ needs to get his efficiency up...but he is in elite company