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Re: Around the NBA - Randle >>>> Harden etc 

Post#1361 » by KnicksGadfly » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:58 am

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i still don't think he'll ever be a star but he's clutch and a winner. we got a collection of guys who are supposed to be stars and can't figure out how to even be good players.

It’s looking like we should’ve gotten Haliburton or Maxey

Haliburton is basically what Lonzo's supposed to be

But don't worry, we got Obi "BPA, but really he's not better, but the fact that he's not as good as the guys taken after him is fine for some reason" Toppin.


Group think and wishful thinking on this forum is pretty serious. All it takes is for the FO to leak their pick (Knox, Frank, or Obi) and people will fall behind.
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Re: Around the NBA - Randle >>>> Harden etc 

Post#1362 » by KnicksGadfly » Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:00 pm

god shammgod wrote:this L i'm taking on haliburton is amongst my worst lol


I respect that. I’m taking a nice big L on Randle, but in all fairness, it ain’t because he’s in the right role. It’s because the guy legit started playing d and hitting 3s as the 1st option.
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Re: Around the NBA - Randle >>>> Harden etc 

Post#1363 » by WargamesX » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:18 pm

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K-DOT wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:It’s looking like we should’ve gotten Haliburton or Maxey

Haliburton is basically what Lonzo's supposed to be

But don't worry, we got Obi "BPA, but really he's not better, but the fact that he's not as good as the guys taken after him is fine for some reason" Toppin.


Group think and wishful thinking on this forum is pretty serious. All it takes is for the FO to leak their pick (Knox, Frank, or Obi) and people will fall behind.


Yes I deal with that a lot on here..... With that said the Knicks need to trade Randle. That’s not the popular opinion, but it’s the right one.

Especially after yesterday
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Re: Around the NBA - Randle >>>> Harden etc 

Post#1364 » by Ray Williams » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:47 pm

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K-DOT wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:It’s looking like we should’ve gotten Haliburton or Maxey

Haliburton is basically what Lonzo's supposed to be

But don't worry, we got Obi "BPA, but really he's not better, but the fact that he's not as good as the guys taken after him is fine for some reason" Toppin.


Group think and wishful thinking on this forum is pretty serious. All it takes is for the FO to leak their pick (Knox, Frank, or Obi) and people will fall behind.


We probably would have drafted Hayes so there’s that.
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Re: Around the NBA - Randle >>>> Harden etc 

Post#1365 » by dakomish23 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:58 pm

god shammgod wrote:this L i'm taking on haliburton is amongst my worst lol


Not even in your top 20
:lol: :lol: :lol:

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1592147&start=1720#p57345128
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Re: Around the NBA - Randle >>>> Harden etc 

Post#1366 » by dakomish23 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:02 pm

Read on Twitter
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Re: Around the NBA - Randle >>>> Harden etc 

Post#1367 » by KnicksGadfly » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:11 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
Read on Twitter


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Post#1368 » by ElMelo7 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:20 pm

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Re: Around the NBA - Randle >>>> Harden etc 

Post#1369 » by cgmw » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:29 pm

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K-DOT wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:It’s looking like we should’ve gotten Haliburton or Maxey

Haliburton is basically what Lonzo's supposed to be

But don't worry, we got Obi "BPA, but really he's not better, but the fact that he's not as good as the guys taken after him is fine for some reason" Toppin.


Group think and wishful thinking on this forum is pretty serious. All it takes is for the FO to leak their pick (Knox, Frank, or Obi) and people will fall behind.

IDK what that comment means exactly (groupthink, fall behind?)--but KnicksThink sure seems to fall behind a lot. It didn't take Jerry West or Red Aurbach to understand that it's sub-optimal to draft a 23 year old PF when your highest paid (and best, for now) player is an unmoveable 26 year old PF.

In typical Dolan-Knicks fashion, they spent a mid-level lotto pick (not a high lotto pick because they don't try for those) on a player who'd be stashed behind a veteran with the same role. I really like Toppin as a prospect, a player, a person, and a New Yorker--but it was an idiotic pick if you're also committed to featuring Julius Randle. Either trade Randle or just take the f*cking PG prospect, you morons! Pick a damn direction. Instead it's just more of the same fake hustle "rebuild" while simultaneously trying to "win now" on the backs of low-ceiling vets.

But don't worry! Brilliant KnicksThink will have us drafting in the 6-10 range yet again next draft. Talk about falling behind.
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Re: Around the NBA - Randle >>>> Harden etc 

Post#1370 » by spree2kawhi » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:47 pm

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god shammgod wrote:this L i'm taking on haliburton is amongst my worst lol


I respect that. I’m taking a nice big L on Randle, but in all fairness, it ain’t because he’s in the right role. It’s because the guy legit started playing d and hitting 3s as the 1st option.


I was wrong on Lamelo apparently, but we'll see. With Randle, I think the jury is still out. It doesn't look like a fluke anymore, but would you dare to build around him after what we saw last season?
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Re: Around the NBA - Randle >>>> Harden etc 

Post#1371 » by god shammgod » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:02 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:this L i'm taking on haliburton is amongst my worst lol


Not even in your top 20


yeah, you get everything right. how's willy ? :lol:
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Re: Around the NBA - Randle >>>> Harden etc 

Post#1372 » by mpharris36 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:13 pm

god shammgod wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:this L i'm taking on haliburton is amongst my worst lol


Not even in your top 20


yeah, you get everything right. how's willy ? :lol:


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Re: Around the NBA - Randle >>>> Harden etc 

Post#1373 » by god shammgod » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:19 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
Not even in your top 20


yeah, you get everything right. how's willy ? :lol:


spicy


i mean, i do ok. this drafting sh*t is hard. but my record aint that bad.

how dare he. :lol: he falls in love with ever young player the knicks ever had.
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Re: Around the NBA - Randle >>>> Harden etc 

Post#1374 » by mpharris36 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:27 pm

god shammgod wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
yeah, you get everything right. how's willy ? :lol:


spicy


i mean, i do ok. this drafting sh*t is hard. but my record aint that bad.

how dare he. :lol: he falls in love with ever young player the knicks ever had.


if it was easy more people would be really good at it. Projecting prospects is very hard especially with limited resources and behind a computer...you kinda just try to find things you like and think will be translatable as a basketball player.

another strategy is to like every prospect and think they have star potential so that you can say you were right :lol:
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Re: Around the NBA - Randle >>>> Harden etc 

Post#1375 » by god shammgod » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:32 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
spicy


i mean, i do ok. this drafting sh*t is hard. but my record aint that bad.

how dare he. :lol: he falls in love with ever young player the knicks ever had.


if it was easy more people would be really good at it. Projecting prospects is very hard especially with limited resources and behind a computer...you kinda just try to find things you like and think will be translatable as a basketball player.

another strategy is to like every prospect and think they have star potential so that you can say you were right :lol:


yeah, i hate that. make an irresponsible hot take or just be quiet. :lol:
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Re: Around the NBA - Randle >>>> Harden etc 

Post#1376 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:33 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
spicy


i mean, i do ok. this drafting sh*t is hard. but my record aint that bad.

how dare he. :lol: he falls in love with ever young player the knicks ever had.


if it was easy more people would be really good at it. Projecting prospects is very hard especially with limited resources and behind a computer...you kinda just try to find things you like and think will be translatable as a basketball player.

another strategy is to like every prospect and think they have star potential so that you can say you were right :lol:

I like the “GreenArrow” strategy. Flip flop on every single prospect every day so nobody can say you were wrong. :lol:
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Post#1377 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:41 pm

Im holding an L on Maxey. I thought he was gonna be like Rodney Stuckey :lol:
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Re: Around the NBA - Randle >>>> Harden etc 

Post#1378 » by robillionaire » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:00 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Im holding an L on Maxey. I thought he was gonna be like Rodney Stuckey :lol:


don't give up, stuckey had a 40 point game once :lol:
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Re: Around the NBA - Randle >>>> Harden etc 

Post#1379 » by Richard4444 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:16 pm

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KnicksGadfly wrote:
K-DOT wrote:Haliburton is basically what Lonzo's supposed to be

But don't worry, we got Obi "BPA, but really he's not better, but the fact that he's not as good as the guys taken after him is fine for some reason" Toppin.


Group think and wishful thinking on this forum is pretty serious. All it takes is for the FO to leak their pick (Knox, Frank, or Obi) and people will fall behind.


We probably would have drafted Hayes so there’s that.


No. Detroit would still have drafted him earlier. Our options would be Kira, Maxey, Hali or Deni.

I would vote Deni at the time.
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Re: Around the NBA - Randle >>>> Harden etc 

Post#1380 » by knickstape4ever » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:22 pm

So Rockets were offered Simmons, Thybulle, and picks and said no?

they're basically banking on 1 or more of those Nets picks being good. didn't like that they moved LeVert for Dipo
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