NoDopeOnSundays wrote:ChaosHamster wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
That contract was just gross, I don't know why they wouldn't shop him around to see who was willing to do a S&T. They don't have a single young player that can grow with Donovan, and they're going to be in the playoffs the next few years while aging and getting poor picks.
Because they wouldn't be getting anything close to a value Gobert has on their team. Sure, even if they got some picks and young guys. Team gets significantly worse, while Mitchell is already on a max deal and ready to win.
There just isn't time to wait for maybe someone they got in that trade pans out and becomes 80% of Gobert, if they are lucky.
If they let Gobert go, their teams turns into garbage. They can't sign anyone because its Utah and no one wants to go there. So either Mitchell gets fed up of being on a bad team and ask for a trade in a year or two, or plays out his contract and leaves in FA, so Utah get left with nothing.
Now at least they have 3-4 years of having a good team. And you never know what can happen. Someone drastically improves. Or you make a trade ala Raptors for a superstar and suddenly you are a contender.
Letting Gobert go wouldn't have been about getting similar value, it would be about preventing yourself from locking into a player that simply isn't worth the money.
Their team is going to be garbage regardless, their best perimeter players are all in their 30s, the timelines of these players do not match. They have no young players outside of Mitchell, seriously just look at their roster. The only way out of this for them is missing the playoffs this year, and getting a top 10 pick that can incorporate into their team. It's so bad they may even have to bring Conley back in free agency because they're already capped out.
At the end of those 3-4 years, Mitchell will be 26-27, Gobert will be 31-32 and still have another year or two left on that dreadful deal. We know how this movie is going to end, it's going to be playoff failures where Mitchell has to shoulder entirely too much of the burden on offense, as Gobert ages and loses a step they will start to lose around a time when Mitchell will have a year or two left on his deal.
I can see both takes. I was all in on your take, where you don't cap out with a large hit on a player not truly worth it. Not that Gobert isn't very good - rim runner arguments aside, but that's a TON of money for a shot blocker/rim runner. Hell, I'd be wary of committing that to a prime Boogie kind of center - a much more varied kind of talent. And it's not only the position, but the return.
Feels like the CBA is kind of f*cked up right now. It's good that players with seniority can really get PAID.
Still, outside of a VERY few players, I wouldn't want to them to get all that $, as a GM, unless I felt my team was competing right now and ALREADY had the other pieces - at the least all the major pieces.
But I could see the value in the take of CH, that the Jazz went in on DMitch's young prime and the that they should take a crack at being a playoff team for 3/4 years and then see, because Utah.
But still. With a number of older players and so much tied up in DMitch (worth it) and RudyG (not worth it) - just not seeing it.
