3toheadmelo wrote: NoDopeOnSundays wrote: 3toheadmelo wrote:
Wood is so bad Harden said **** this I’m out
But fr nobody here is acting like Randle is like a franchise player. He’s just a good young piece to keep around. Our front court isn’t really the Knicks problems... it’s our guards.
Nah, Harden just wanted to be with Little Mountain and go to Starlets & Sue's Rendezvous when they reopen.
Come on man, there's people talking about maxing out Julius in the trade Payton or Randle thread, that is nuts. If we had better guards Randles stats would drop and he'd have to take more threes as the ball would be in their hands more. If we were to draft Cade or Suggs, how do you think that's going to work, do you really think Randle should have the ball even half as much as he has it now?
You don’t have to relegate Randle as a spot up shooter with better guards. He can set picks and roll to the rim or pick and pop. Cut to the rim, etc. We don’t see much of that cause our guards suck.
I still think you’re over exaggerating the usage with Randle though. Your boy Wood actually has basically the same usage as Randle even though he plays next to Wall and Harden lol. Wood’s is 27.4 while Randle is 27.7. Randle’s usage is actually the same as the last 3 years (27.8, 27.6, 27.7). If anything this just shows how much his game has grown, while basically getting the same amount of touches the last couple of years.
You do need him to shoot if there's better guards, because they will have the ball more and the man in the dunkers spot will still be Mitch. It's a spacing issue no matter how you cut it, that is also why he's on the ball so much, because he's not a great shooter you put the ball in his hands which makes sense, the problem is how often that happens and how often he dominates plays. If he's setting screens, what is Mitch doing? A more modern offense would be Mitch setting screens for the ball handler with Obi in the corner, you know it, and I know it too. If Randle were a 7 footer and could play C full time then his style of play could work since he'd drag the opposing C out the lane, but he doesn't and can't protect the rim either.
Wood is a finisher, he's not initiating offense or handling the ball much, when Wood gets the ball it's usually in a scoring position so his usage is high as a result, for example 74% of Wood's offense is assisted, 46% of Randle's is assisted. Let's be real, Randle gets the ball in the frontcourt more than Joel Embiid, he touches the ball more than LeBron and Curry, it's not an exaggeration to say he's ball dominant, going by usage only tells you how the play ended, in between that Randle is dominating the ball at superstar levels. Do you really think a player like that can function within an offense, and defer to rookies? hell no, if we got lucky and drafted Cade or Suggs they better be ready to play off the ball too
You can make it about Wood being my boy, but I'd never want to build a team around Wood as a franchise player, you want us to build around Randle as though he's a centerpiece talent