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Lonzo Ball - What's your opinion of him?
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:31 am
by NoDopeOnSundays
I personally think we should go after him this summer, not just because I like his game, but also because of what it would mean for Quickley. I think it's pretty apparent that IQ is not a PG and our coaches have absolutely no intention of developing him as one anyway, so the pathway for him to start gets a little cloudy. You can't have a smaller PG with him, he's got great size for the 1 defensively with his 6'8" wingspan, but he's on the small side of things if he has to defend 2s. That is why I think Lonzo would be an excellent pickup, because he's the right type of backcourt player to pair up with IQ, he's a ball mover that can guard the 1 or 2 and will allow Quickley to be the score first guy and defend mostly 1s. If we can't find a big pg, wing or can't develop RJ into a good playmaker it will be hard to play Quickley as a starter in the future. You need someone to offset his scoring mentality, someone that can and will move the ball and lets him be the 2 on offense, sort of how his brother allows Rozier to look to score. This is a creative way to replace Payton and Bullock, with better playmaking, shooting and scoring.
I also like how Lonzo fits with RJ and Randle (
) because he can operate on the ball or off, and if he continues to shoot the way he has for the last 20 games you get a multi-purpose offensive player. The cons are that he's not a great isolation player, but if you have IQ, RJ and Randle out there you don't need yet another guy who needs to always be on the ball. Also, he was on fire from three last season until the bubble where his shooting went into a crater and lasted about 10 games into this season as well, so how real is the shot?
I am against trading for him if it's not for the bare minimum, with the Pelicans being a small market team we could definitely make their lives miserable in trying to match for him. But, I guess we'll see if they can move Eric Bledsoe, that will tell us if they plan on putting up a fight to keep Lonzo.
Re: Lonzo Ball - What's your opinion of him?
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:41 am
by 2010
I don't think anyone has pushed for him to be acquired by the Knicks harder than me.
Re: Lonzo Ball - What's your opinion of him?
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:55 am
by NoDopeOnSundays
2010 wrote:I don't think anyone has pushed for him to be acquired by the Knicks harder than me.
There's two of us now.
Re: Lonzo Ball - What's your opinion of him?
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:57 am
by mpharris36
2010 wrote:I don't think anyone has pushed for him to be acquired by the Knicks harder than me.
wait for my call in tonight...its part of my question
I don't think he is a thibs PG at all and I'm bringing the stats
Re: Lonzo Ball - What's your opinion of him?
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:02 am
by 2010
mpharris36 wrote:2010 wrote:I don't think anyone has pushed for him to be acquired by the Knicks harder than me.
wait for my call in tonight...its part of my question
I don't think he is a thibs PG at all and I'm bringing the stats
Lookin' forward to your take!
Re: Lonzo Ball - What's your opinion of him?
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:02 am
by TheGreenArrow
I’d try and go all in on him rn.
Frank knox and two 2nd rd picks.
I don’t think we’ll be able to get him in fa!!!!
Re: Lonzo Ball - What's your opinion of him?
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:04 am
by DOT
I think he compares pretty well to Brogdon, but younger
Like, I'm pretty sure he's the same age right now that Brogdon was when he was drafted
I think he'd fit pretty well next to two ball dominant guys in RJ and Randle, especially if his shot is legit.
Re: Lonzo Ball - What's your opinion of him?
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:06 am
by 3toheadmelo
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:I personally think we should go after him this summer, not just because I like his game, but also because of what it would mean for Quickley. I think it's pretty apparent that IQ is not a PG and our coaches have absolutely no intention of developing him as one anyway, so the pathway for him to start gets a little cloudy. You can't have a smaller PG with him, he's got great size for the 1 defensively with his 6'8" wingspan, but he's on the small side of things if he has to defend 2s. That is why I think Lonzo would be an excellent pickup, because he's the right type of backcourt player to pair up with IQ, he's a ball mover that can guard the 1 or 2 and will allow Quickley to be the score first guy and defend mostly 1s. If we can't find a big pg, wing or can't develop RJ into a good playmaker it will be hard to play Quickley as a starter in the future. You need someone to offset his scoring mentality, someone that can and will move the ball and lets him be the 2 on offense, sort of how his brother allows Rozier to look to score. This is a creative way to replace Payton and Bullock, with better playmaking, shooting and scoring.
I also like how Lonzo fits with RJ
and Randle ( ) because he can operate on the ball or off, and if he continues to shoot the way he has for the last 20 games you get a multi-purpose offensive player. The cons are that he's not a great isolation player, but if you have IQ, RJ and Randle out there you don't need yet another guy who needs to always be on the ball. Also, he was on fire from three last season until the bubble where his shooting went into a crater and lasted about 10 games into this season as well, so how real is the shot?
I am against trading for him if it's not for the bare minimum, with the Pelicans being a small market team we could definitely make their lives miserable in trying to match for him. But, I guess we'll see if they can move Eric Bledsoe, that will tell us if they plan on putting up a fight to keep Lonzo.
But yes I wouldn’t mind Lonzo if he keeps this up
Re: Lonzo Ball - What's your opinion of him?
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:10 am
by SelbyCobra
I've been super heavy against him over the past year or two, but I respect what I've seen so far and switched it up a bit this season. Still hate that he can't get his shot - and I don't trust his shooting yet - but I'd be perfectly happy if he replaced Elfrid on the roster this summer.
How much I'd trade for him right now is a whole different story from what I think of him in a vacuum, though.
EDIT: He definitely fills some of the biggest Knicks yearning I've had for years, outside of a competitive team - a point guard that can control the court and make everyone around him better.
Re: Lonzo Ball - What's your opinion of him?
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:26 am
by br7knicks
i think he'd fit in quite well with this team, and what this team needs.
his dad is only allowed in the stadium once a year, though
Re: Lonzo Ball - What's your opinion of him?
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:38 am
by GONYK
You ready to play Lonzo $15-18M/yr?
Re: Lonzo Ball - What's your opinion of him?
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:42 am
by GONYK
2010 wrote:mpharris36 wrote:2010 wrote:I don't think anyone has pushed for him to be acquired by the Knicks harder than me.
wait for my call in tonight...its part of my question
I don't think he is a thibs PG at all and I'm bringing the stats
Lookin' forward to your take!
What's the call in #?
Re: Lonzo Ball - What's your opinion of him?
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:55 am
by NoDopeOnSundays
3toheadmelo wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:I personally think we should go after him this summer, not just because I like his game, but also because of what it would mean for Quickley. I think it's pretty apparent that IQ is not a PG and our coaches have absolutely no intention of developing him as one anyway, so the pathway for him to start gets a little cloudy. You can't have a smaller PG with him, he's got great size for the 1 defensively with his 6'8" wingspan, but he's on the small side of things if he has to defend 2s. That is why I think Lonzo would be an excellent pickup, because he's the right type of backcourt player to pair up with IQ, he's a ball mover that can guard the 1 or 2 and will allow Quickley to be the score first guy and defend mostly 1s. If we can't find a big pg, wing or can't develop RJ into a good playmaker it will be hard to play Quickley as a starter in the future. You need someone to offset his scoring mentality, someone that can and will move the ball and lets him be the 2 on offense, sort of how his brother allows Rozier to look to score. This is a creative way to replace Payton and Bullock, with better playmaking, shooting and scoring.
I also like how Lonzo fits with RJ
and Randle ( ) because he can operate on the ball or off, and if he continues to shoot the way he has for the last 20 games you get a multi-purpose offensive player. The cons are that he's not a great isolation player, but if you have IQ, RJ and Randle out there you don't need yet another guy who needs to always be on the ball. Also, he was on fire from three last season until the bubble where his shooting went into a crater and lasted about 10 games into this season as well, so how real is the shot?
I am against trading for him if it's not for the bare minimum, with the Pelicans being a small market team we could definitely make their lives miserable in trying to match for him. But, I guess we'll see if they can move Eric Bledsoe, that will tell us if they plan on putting up a fight to keep Lonzo.
But yes I wouldn’t mind Lonzo if he keeps this up
Re: Lonzo Ball - What's your opinion of him?
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:56 am
by NoDopeOnSundays
GONYK wrote:You ready to play Lonzo $15-18M/yr?
Dante Exum got $11 million per, so yeah.
Re: Lonzo Ball - What's your opinion of him?
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:56 am
by GONYK
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:GONYK wrote:You ready to play Lonzo $15-18M/yr?
Dante Exum got $11 million per, so yeah.
Then the smart play is to trade for him
Re: Lonzo Ball - What's your opinion of him?
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:05 am
by 2010
GONYK wrote:2010 wrote:mpharris36 wrote:wait for my call in tonight...its part of my question
I don't think he is a thibs PG at all and I'm bringing the stats
Lookin' forward to your take!
What's the call in #?
PM Moocow for the call-in process.
Re: Lonzo Ball - What's your opinion of him?
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:06 am
by GONYK
2010 wrote:GONYK wrote:2010 wrote:
Lookin' forward to your take!
What's the call in #?
PM Moocow for the call-in process.
Thanks. Congrats on the move to PodBean!
Re: Lonzo Ball - What's your opinion of him?
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:08 am
by 2010
GONYK wrote:2010 wrote:GONYK wrote:What's the call in #?
PM Moocow for the call-in process.
Thanks. Congrats on the move to PodBean!
Thanks. Look forward to you calling in!
Re: Lonzo Ball - What's your opinion of him?
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:11 am
by Spree2Houston
Lonzo is slowly becoming a solid shooter. He’s definitely improved his shooting mechanics. It’s night and day compared to his rookie year. I would welcome him here
Re: Lonzo Ball - What's your opinion of him?
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:21 am
by moocow007
Would have to be more than just Lonzo. And of course also depends on how much. The Knicks need a true no.1 option. That's not Randle. That's not Barrett. And it also wouldn't be Lonzo Ball.
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