jvsimonetti0514 wrote:I think a bigger sign of wokeness being an issue with a movie is when something is critically acclaimed but hated by the audience. Usually most journalists are way more progressive than the world around them, so if there's that big of a disconnect between the two it's safe to assume wokeness is causing it. The Joker and The last jedi kinda perfect encapsulate that phenomenon.
That's not to say wokeness can't be used really well in movies Get out and Zootopia were pretty woke and still amazing. The weird thing is with woke writing is that it ends up making such boring female characters. A few years ago there was a major backlash cuz one of the marvel female characters having a miscarriage in her backstory and it seemed so silly to me that people were mad about it. Having flaws and overcoming personal tragedy is what make characters compelling and realistic. Pretty much every superhero has some horrible tragedy in their pasts too.
I think politics in media is not inherently good or bad, regardless of what it's saying
It's about how it's applied within the story as well as how it's presented to the audience
Wonder Woman being told "you can't go up there, that's no-man's land" in the first movie before crossing no-man's land is a good application of feminist writing, because the implication is she can cross because she isn't a man. If she had turned to the camera and said "I am no man," then it would've been cheesy and kinda pandering, and so wouldn't have worked as much
It's a hard line to walk, because it has to be subtle enough to not make people roll their eyes at it, but present enough for people to pick up on it. Like, I always think of the meme where the guy is looking at a Gundam going "wow cool robot" while the Gundam shoots the themes of the show (war is bad, child soldiers get f*cked up mentally, etc) over his head because he doesn't think deeply enough to see them over the cool robots fighting.
