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I’m warming up to giving a big 2 year deal to CP3 and having Leon Rose negotiate it through back channels so he opts out of his deal in Phoenix.
If we could dump Knox’ salary, we could sign CP3, keep our own and the Mavs picks, keep the cap holds of Burks, Bullock and Rose, plus our cap MLE with Toppin, Randle, Quickley, Robinson and Barrett. With what level Paul would bring Quickley/Randle/Robinson/Barrett to that is a really good team if we hit on those picks and can get a reliable veteran center with the cap MLE to bring Robinson back slowly.
If we could dump Knox’ salary, we could sign CP3, keep our own and the Mavs picks, keep the cap holds of Burks, Bullock and Rose, plus our cap MLE with Toppin, Randle, Quickley, Robinson and Barrett. With what level Paul would bring Quickley/Randle/Robinson/Barrett to that is a really good team if we hit on those picks and can get a reliable veteran center with the cap MLE to bring Robinson back slowly.
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Graham looks like a good fit. I haven't watched the dude at all but he seems to be taking many threes and making them. He is going to the line more than Ball as well.
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NYG wrote:I’m warming up to giving a big 2 year deal to CP3 and having Leon Rose negotiate it through back channels so he opts out of his deal in Phoenix.
If we could dump Knox’ salary, we could sign CP3, keep our own and the Mavs picks, keep the cap holds of Burks, Bullock and Rose, plus our cap MLE with Toppin, Randle, Quickley, Robinson and Barrett. With what level Paul would bring Quickley/Randle/Robinson/Barrett to that is a really good team if we hit on those picks and can get a reliable veteran center with the cap MLE to bring Robinson back slowly.
**** YES. Been wanting CP3 for idk how many years now. Always been one of my favorite players. We'd finally see some catch and shoot and guys set up properly and put in the best position possible.
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KnixtapeH20 wrote:NYG wrote:I’m warming up to giving a big 2 year deal to CP3 and having Leon Rose negotiate it through back channels so he opts out of his deal in Phoenix.
If we could dump Knox’ salary, we could sign CP3, keep our own and the Mavs picks, keep the cap holds of Burks, Bullock and Rose, plus our cap MLE with Toppin, Randle, Quickley, Robinson and Barrett. With what level Paul would bring Quickley/Randle/Robinson/Barrett to that is a really good team if we hit on those picks and can get a reliable veteran center with the cap MLE to bring Robinson back slowly.
**** YES. Been wanting CP3 for idk how many years now. Always been one of my favorite players. We'd finally see some catch and shoot and guys set up properly and put in the best position possible.
The Suns are 36-15 and Paul wants to leave them to come here?
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I think Conley would be an amazing addition
hes old and all that but hes super skilled and it woudl be amazing to see him in Thib's defense
Obviously someone like Jru Holiday is perfect for us but hes not available so ...
hes old and all that but hes super skilled and it woudl be amazing to see him in Thib's defense
Obviously someone like Jru Holiday is perfect for us but hes not available so ...
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I wonder if DeRozan could be our point guard. I could see this as playing to his strengths and it might be the change he needs to capitalize on his absurd talent. He'd create more drives and possibly open looks for others than Lonzo ever could.
Of course I'm not advocating it as I would prefer to sign a younger PG a la FVV last year. What's more, he isn't coming here. But I really love his game.
Speaking of free agency, we've really missed out on Jerami Grant and FVV who would've been incredible fits here.
FVV
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Randle
Mitch
Of course I'm not advocating it as I would prefer to sign a younger PG a la FVV last year. What's more, he isn't coming here. But I really love his game.
Speaking of free agency, we've really missed out on Jerami Grant and FVV who would've been incredible fits here.
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I don't know why are you so obsessed with the 'shooting' point guard. I'd rather have someone that can dribble penetrate and make a good out of iso plays even for 2 points late into the games. We've lost so many games within 2-3 points range, Its crazy. And in these possessions no one will be leaving our shooting god wide opened.
Demar has the exact profile we need but he is a famous choker so we shouldn't be looking at him.
Demar has the exact profile we need but he is a famous choker so we shouldn't be looking at him.
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I think CP3 doesn't make sense for this team, I would have taken him on the bad contract with an asset - and we would have gotten the amazing deal Pheonix did - but I am not willing to throw big money at him. We are not a CP3 away from being a championship contender.
I don't think of Brogdan as injury prone. I think him and Jerian Grant - who in my opinion doesn't fit Detroit's timeline - make sense as potential trade targets.
I think people are 'obsessed' with shooting point guards because RJ is our dribble penetrate guy, and actually so is Randle. We don't need another dribble penetrator, we need a leader who can play defense, distribute and hit the outside shot. That is what fits our current makeup.
I like Rose but if he's not starting here, I am not sure we resign him. Not because he wouldn't resign, but because Quickly is likely our first PG off the bench next year and Rose would be too expensive to be a 3rd PG. I like Graham, but not at more than 8-10 per. He basically rode the bench this year on a mediocre Charlotte team. I like Ball, but not for more than 18 per year, and NO probably matches that. I actually think we draft a PG and go into next year w/Rose/Quickly/1st rounder, but let's see. Maybe I will be surprised.
I don't think of Brogdan as injury prone. I think him and Jerian Grant - who in my opinion doesn't fit Detroit's timeline - make sense as potential trade targets.
I think people are 'obsessed' with shooting point guards because RJ is our dribble penetrate guy, and actually so is Randle. We don't need another dribble penetrator, we need a leader who can play defense, distribute and hit the outside shot. That is what fits our current makeup.
I like Rose but if he's not starting here, I am not sure we resign him. Not because he wouldn't resign, but because Quickly is likely our first PG off the bench next year and Rose would be too expensive to be a 3rd PG. I like Graham, but not at more than 8-10 per. He basically rode the bench this year on a mediocre Charlotte team. I like Ball, but not for more than 18 per year, and NO probably matches that. I actually think we draft a PG and go into next year w/Rose/Quickly/1st rounder, but let's see. Maybe I will be surprised.
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Realistic but quality offseason
Sign Lonzo - 3&D PG who can run a fast break and set people up on offense. Lacks dribble penetration but can catch and shoot and is big for his position will be rough on opposing pgs and has the size to switch
Sign Derozan - Wing scorer we currently lack in crunch time situations. Still a quality defender and can be the dribble penetrator we need to kick start the offense. Can rely on his consistency
Sign Kelly Olynk - Can defend and spread the floor from the 5 position.
Draft Davion Mitchell - Kid is marcus smart with an elite jumper and better vision. Actually drives with either hand and can freaking shoot. Needs to work on his ft's tho.
Bring back Rose and Burks Noel
Zo/Rose/IQ
Demar/Davion/IQ
RJ/Demar/Burks
Randle/Obi/Knox (lol)
Mitch/KellyO/Noel
Thats at least 10 players that can legit contribute. Defense would be stout and offensively we wouldn't be inept. Not a perfect fit but still better than what we have now. Can see a quality playoff run as RJ continues to progress as a scorer and leader.
Would kill our 2021 chance at a big name FA unless Derozan's deal is a 1+1 or something or we decide to trade him or randle
Sign Lonzo - 3&D PG who can run a fast break and set people up on offense. Lacks dribble penetration but can catch and shoot and is big for his position will be rough on opposing pgs and has the size to switch
Sign Derozan - Wing scorer we currently lack in crunch time situations. Still a quality defender and can be the dribble penetrator we need to kick start the offense. Can rely on his consistency
Sign Kelly Olynk - Can defend and spread the floor from the 5 position.
Draft Davion Mitchell - Kid is marcus smart with an elite jumper and better vision. Actually drives with either hand and can freaking shoot. Needs to work on his ft's tho.
Bring back Rose and Burks Noel
Zo/Rose/IQ
Demar/Davion/IQ
RJ/Demar/Burks
Randle/Obi/Knox (lol)
Mitch/KellyO/Noel
Thats at least 10 players that can legit contribute. Defense would be stout and offensively we wouldn't be inept. Not a perfect fit but still better than what we have now. Can see a quality playoff run as RJ continues to progress as a scorer and leader.
Would kill our 2021 chance at a big name FA unless Derozan's deal is a 1+1 or something or we decide to trade him or randle
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HarthorneWingo wrote:KnixtapeH20 wrote:NYG wrote:I’m warming up to giving a big 2 year deal to CP3 and having Leon Rose negotiate it through back channels so he opts out of his deal in Phoenix.
If we could dump Knox’ salary, we could sign CP3, keep our own and the Mavs picks, keep the cap holds of Burks, Bullock and Rose, plus our cap MLE with Toppin, Randle, Quickley, Robinson and Barrett. With what level Paul would bring Quickley/Randle/Robinson/Barrett to that is a really good team if we hit on those picks and can get a reliable veteran center with the cap MLE to bring Robinson back slowly.
**** YES. Been wanting CP3 for idk how many years now. Always been one of my favorite players. We'd finally see some catch and shoot and guys set up properly and put in the best position possible.
The Suns are 36-15 and Paul wants to leave them to come here?
From a competition standpoint, it does not make sense. But from a persona, familiar, business, and personal relationships point of view it might work.
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Montmorencie wrote:I don't know why are you so obsessed with the 'shooting' point guard. I'd rather have someone that can dribble penetrate and make a good out of iso plays even for 2 points late into the games. We've lost so many games within 2-3 points range, Its crazy. And in these possessions no one will be leaving our shooting god wide opened.
Demar has the exact profile we need but he is a famous choker so we shouldn't be looking at him.
Because we are fragile against teams that play zone defense (very good against drivers).
We play with a Center that doesn't stretch the floor, Randle and RJ that are good shooters only when relatively open, and Bullock who does not excel shotting out of the dribble.
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HarthorneWingo wrote:KnixtapeH20 wrote:NYG wrote:I’m warming up to giving a big 2 year deal to CP3 and having Leon Rose negotiate it through back channels so he opts out of his deal in Phoenix.
If we could dump Knox’ salary, we could sign CP3, keep our own and the Mavs picks, keep the cap holds of Burks, Bullock and Rose, plus our cap MLE with Toppin, Randle, Quickley, Robinson and Barrett. With what level Paul would bring Quickley/Randle/Robinson/Barrett to that is a really good team if we hit on those picks and can get a reliable veteran center with the cap MLE to bring Robinson back slowly.
**** YES. Been wanting CP3 for idk how many years now. Always been one of my favorite players. We'd finally see some catch and shoot and guys set up properly and put in the best position possible.
The Suns are 36-15 and Paul wants to leave them to come here?
I mean I'm not saying it happens just expressing the euphoric emotions that this man brings lol. but I also wouldn't be surprised if he does. We changed the culture, we have good young some talent, it is New York, he'd run the entire show.
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KnixtapeH20 wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:KnixtapeH20 wrote:**** YES. Been wanting CP3 for idk how many years now. Always been one of my favorite players. We'd finally see some catch and shoot and guys set up properly and put in the best position possible.
The Suns are 36-15 and Paul wants to leave them to come here?
I mean I'm not saying it happens just expressing the euphoric emotions that this man brings lol. but I also wouldn't be surprised if he does. We changed the culture, we have good young some talent, it is New York, he'd run the entire show.
Well, if it's euphoria we're seeking, we should meet up in the NYC and hook up with Angryfatboy for a night.
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Richard4444 wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:KnixtapeH20 wrote:**** YES. Been wanting CP3 for idk how many years now. Always been one of my favorite players. We'd finally see some catch and shoot and guys set up properly and put in the best position possible.
The Suns are 36-15 and Paul wants to leave them to come here?
From a competition standpoint, it does not make sense. But from a persona, familiar, business, and personal relationships point of view it might work.
Maybe, but CP3 is all about winning a ring not branding himself
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HarthorneWingo wrote:Richard4444 wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:
The Suns are 36-15 and Paul wants to leave them to come here?
From a competition standpoint, it does not make sense. But from a persona, familiar, business, and personal relationships point of view it might work.
Maybe, but CP3 is all about winning a ring not branding himself
He could have a wife and kids that want to live in NYC. He can have friends in New York. He might hate Arizona.
I don't believe he will come. But I don't discard the possibility.
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HarthorneWingo wrote:KnixtapeH20 wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:
The Suns are 36-15 and Paul wants to leave them to come here?
I mean I'm not saying it happens just expressing the euphoric emotions that this man brings lol. but I also wouldn't be surprised if he does. We changed the culture, we have good young some talent, it is New York, he'd run the entire show.
Well, if it's euphoria we're seeking, we should meet up in the NYC and hook up with Angryfatboy for a night.
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Richard4444 wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:Richard4444 wrote:
From a competition standpoint, it does not make sense. But from a persona, familiar, business, and personal relationships point of view it might work.
Maybe, but CP3 is all about winning a ring not branding himself
He could have a wife and kids that want to live in NYC. He can have friends in New York. He might hate Arizona.
I don't believe he will come. But I don't discard the possibility.
He has a player option for 44 million next year
He's not turning that down for less than a 3 or 4 year max contract, and even then, he still might not.
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HarthorneWingo wrote:Richard4444 wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:
The Suns are 36-15 and Paul wants to leave them to come here?
From a competition standpoint, it does not make sense. But from a persona, familiar, business, and personal relationships point of view it might work.
Maybe, but CP3 is all about winning a ring not branding himself
That whining bitch doesn't have what it takes.
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Wonder if Garland or Sexton become available if Cleveland decides to draft another guard. That would be an ideal trade to improve the PG position. I’ll be rooting for them to win the lottery if we’re left out.
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