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Re: PG: Randle is different

Posted: Mon May 3, 2021 4:11 pm
by DOT
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Re: PG: Randle is different

Posted: Mon May 3, 2021 4:11 pm
by Jeff Van Gully
Oscirus wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
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thats a break for us

Maybe if that game wasnt a must win for them, Id feel a bit more relieved :-?


word. they under PRESSURE pressure. they will be fighting us with everything they have.

Re: PG: Randle is different

Posted: Mon May 3, 2021 4:12 pm
by snadler
Oscirus wrote:
snadler wrote:2-4 road trip, won't bury the knicks, they should still at least be 5-6 seed..lose the next 5, they will probably be 7

1 game at a time, lets call tomorrow another must win.


you mean tonight

Re: PG: Randle is different

Posted: Mon May 3, 2021 4:16 pm
by Gravy
Thibs wants a pg in the pg spot so that means no Frank, IQ or Burks. Going 12-1 only reinforces that.

Re: PG: Randle is different

Posted: Mon May 3, 2021 4:17 pm
by jvsimonetti0514
mpharris36 wrote:
jvsimonetti0514 wrote:This road trip is probably our last chance to move Payton out of the rotation for the rest of this season. Like if it looks like we’re about to lose the rest of this road trip or something. There has to be something going on behind the scenes that keeps Payton from being bench cuz Thibs clearly sees that he’s hurting the team by his reduction of minutes. Maybe Payton is a malcontent and they worry about him messing up the lock room chemistry? Not even Thibs is stubborn enough to keep playing someone that’s hurting winning to be proven right about something if there wasn’t some sort of extenuating circumstances.


Yeah I just think its been timing. Rose went out with COVID so they wanted to ease him back (because when Payton went down Rose and the starters were playing great).

Then Burks went out and kinda forced Thibs again to stick with Payton.

We also are 11-1 in our last 12 and while payton hasn't done anything to help us in that stretch. I think Thibs just likes consistency of rotations.

The think like you said that will be interesting...if we do falter at all during this west coast trip and Burks is back playing minutes...it will be hard to continue to start Payton especially if we start losing games to good teams and he continues to prove he is our weak link.


This probably makes way more sense than my idea of behind the scenes forces keeping him in the line up. I feel like Payton’s minutes were trending down too right before Rose got sick too. Usually coaches don’t change their starting line ups for no reason either. Much bigger moral hit to make a move on Payton now cuz we’re dominating. I’m a little afraid that Noel could be out for a big part of this road trip might keep a built in excuse in case we start losing

Re: PG: Randle is different

Posted: Mon May 3, 2021 4:18 pm
by mpharris36
Jeff Van Gully wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
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thats a break for us

Maybe if that game wasnt a must win for them, Id feel a bit more relieved :-?


word. they under PRESSURE pressure. they will be fighting us with everything they have.


im glad we are playing this stretch of games. This will be playoff intensity and we really can gauge our guys vs the best of the best in the west.

Re: PG: Randle is different

Posted: Mon May 3, 2021 4:22 pm
by cgf
jvsimonetti0514 wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:He isn’t a shooter.....

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This kids rapid development is insane!!!!

I’m just going to say it....

He’s going to be an all-time great when it’s all said and done if his rapid development continues!!!!!!!



Probably my favorite shot he’s hit in the past month. That’s the next step in his development. I think like 98 or 99% of his threes are on catch and shoot. If he’s starts hitting threes off the dribble, it really raises the ceiling on his potential. Especially if he’s going to be able to keep up these percentages. Off the dribble three point shooter at 40% are stuff that superstars do.

Give it time, the off-the-bounce 3s are coming, as is the finishing at the rim and expansion of his playmaking.

Re: PG: Randle is different

Posted: Mon May 3, 2021 4:23 pm
by makeitstop
mpharris36 wrote:
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thats a break for us


Lakes are in some turmoil right now. With Schroeder out and Kuzma pining for more Gasol over Drummond, they might be disorganized enough to drop a couple of games.

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Re: PG: Randle is different

Posted: Mon May 3, 2021 4:25 pm
by cgf
snadler wrote:2-4 road trip, won't bury the knicks, they should still at least be 5-6 seed..lose the next 5, they will probably be 7

I like our chances against Memphis, SA & in that early-Sunday game against the Clippers. Plus I wouldn't be shocked if we balled out against the Suns after the way that last game ended, & the Lakers are stumbling.

Denver is really the only game on this trip that I don't feel good about at all.

Re: PG: Randle is different

Posted: Mon May 3, 2021 4:27 pm
by Jeff Van Gully
mpharris36 wrote:
Jeff Van Gully wrote:
Oscirus wrote:Maybe if that game wasnt a must win for them, Id feel a bit more relieved :-?


word. they under PRESSURE pressure. they will be fighting us with everything they have.


im glad we are playing this stretch of games. This will be playoff intensity and we really can gauge our guys vs the best of the best in the west.


have been thinking the same thing.

Re: PG: Randle is different

Posted: Mon May 3, 2021 4:37 pm
by BKlutch
KnicksGod wrote:
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god shammgod wrote:
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luka one more tech away from a 1 game suspension

Luka 15 techs after ejection, KP's knees, THJr out, wow.
So happy we traded off the Max Diva!


He's so surprised yet does nothing but complain all game during a continuous dialogue with the refs.

I think some of that good ol' KP biatch boy personality is in Luka, too!

Too bad KP and Luka never learned what my kids learned when they were young and in school -- their teachers told them "You get what you get, and don't get upset." :lol:

Re: PG: Randle is different

Posted: Mon May 3, 2021 4:44 pm
by BKlutch
DaGawd wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:It's May 2nd. The Knicks have a better record than

Golden State
Boston
Miami
San Antonio
Toronto

and they are tied with

Lakers
Portland
Dallas

Image

Feels good to not have tankathon on regular visitation any longer

OMFG. Kyrie Irvie is Kyrect -- the Earth is flat, and it has turned upside down. Maybe this is the end of everything as we know it - a lifetime devoted to mourning my beloved Knicks, only to see they have come back from the dead.Their style of play is very similar to what they had when they won in '70 and '73.

Yeah, it must be the end of the universe.

Re: PG: Randle is different

Posted: Mon May 3, 2021 4:46 pm
by BKlutch
blueNorange wrote:i really think elf is really close to being out of the rotation

everyone has raised their level of play, including obi, yet payton has gotten worse!

If you do a graph of Elf's minutes vs. the date, it's almost a straight line headed to zero at the start of the playoffs. LOL

Re: PG: Randle is different

Posted: Mon May 3, 2021 4:46 pm
by Handledatruth
TheGreenArrow wrote:He isn’t a shooter.....

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This kids rapid development is insane!!!!

I’m just going to say it....

He’s going to be an all-time great when it’s all said and done if his rapid development continues!!!!!!!


Barrett squaring up like that and shooting off the dribble will turn him into an All-NBA player. Calling it now.

Re: PG: Randle is different

Posted: Mon May 3, 2021 4:48 pm
by Im Coming Home
BKlutch wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:
BKlutch wrote:Luka 15 techs after ejection, KP's knees, THJr out, wow.
So happy we traded off the Max Diva!


He's so surprised yet does nothing but complain all game during a continuous dialogue with the refs.

I think some of that good ol' KP biatch boy personality is in Luka, too!

Too bad KP and Luka never learned what my kids learned when they were young and in school -- their teachers told them "You get what you get, and don't get upset." :lol:

It's the worst when some of the guys who get gifted some of the most calls for them still have the nerve to complain when not every call is called for them

Re: PG: Randle is different

Posted: Mon May 3, 2021 4:50 pm
by BKlutch
Im Coming Home wrote:
BKlutch wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:
He's so surprised yet does nothing but complain all game during a continuous dialogue with the refs.

I think some of that good ol' KP biatch boy personality is in Luka, too!

Too bad KP and Luka never learned what my kids learned when they were young and in school -- their teachers told them "You get what you get, and don't get upset." :lol:

It's the worst when some of the guys who get gifted some of the most calls for them still have the nerve to complain when not every call is called for them

It was that way among the 3rd grade students, too! :lol:

Re: PG: Randle is different

Posted: Mon May 3, 2021 4:55 pm
by BKlutch
cgf wrote:It's a combination of trying to keep IQ on the bench while he improves his consistency, trying to balance the 1st & 2nd units so our bench can extend leads, and Thibs' trying to compensate for the talent deficit we'd have in the starting lineup either way, by letting our best defensive lineup start things off...plus with the shooting we're getting from Julius, RJ & Reggie, Elf's shot isn't as crippling & his penetration gives our offense multiple ways to put pressure on a defense.

It's just a shame that Elf can't shoot, finish or pass.

Other than that, though....

Re: PG: Randle is different

Posted: Mon May 3, 2021 5:12 pm
by dakomish23
FreeSpiritNY wrote:
Capn'O wrote:Do the pistons have any other good players? Maybe we can trade Knox and a **** second for that player.



We can trade for Dennis smith Jr I heard he's real good :lol: :lol: :banghead: JK


I’d like a chance to see what Sekou could do

Re: PG: Randle is different

Posted: Mon May 3, 2021 5:14 pm
by dakomish23
TheGreenArrow wrote:He isn’t a shooter.....

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This kids rapid development is insane!!!!

I’m just going to say it....

He’s going to be an all-time great when it’s all said and done if his rapid development continues!!!!!!!


Faith rewarded is 100,000,000,000,000x sweeter than doubts removed

Re: PG: Randle is different

Posted: Mon May 3, 2021 5:35 pm
by robillionaire
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thats a break for us


I dunno

I don’t think Shroder is all that good and if the lakers just make Lebron play heavy PG minutes they’ll win more