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Re: PG: Too big too fast too strong too good 

Post#341 » by DaGawd » Tue May 4, 2021 11:45 pm

Besart19 wrote:Next season:

Mitch / Toppin / Noel
Randle / Melo / Gibson
Barrett / Bullock / Knox
Quickley / Burks / Clarke
Lillard / Rose / Ntilikina

NBA Champions

So... uh..... the blazers donated Lillard to us for charity? :lol:
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Re: PG: Too big too fast too strong too good 

Post#342 » by Besart19 » Tue May 4, 2021 11:49 pm

DaGawd wrote:
Besart19 wrote:Next season:

Mitch / Toppin / Noel
Randle / Melo / Gibson
Barrett / Bullock / Knox
Quickley / Burks / Clarke
Lillard / Rose / Ntilikina

NBA Champions

So... uh..... the blazers donated Lillard to us for charity? :lol:


5 first rounders... his departure means a full reset!

Mitch
Randle
Kawhi
Quickley
Lillard

Is anothee option and you dont give a **** who comes off the bench
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Re: PG: Too big too fast too strong too good 

Post#343 » by Richard4444 » Tue May 4, 2021 11:50 pm

Besart19 wrote:Next season:

Mitch / Noel / Gibson
Randle / Toppin / Knox
Bullock / Melo / Clarke
Barrett / Rose / Burks
Lillard / Quickley / Frank

NBA Champions


lillard 44
Randle 20
RJ 8,5
Noah Corpse 6,5
Toppin 5
Knox 6
Quick 2
Mitch 2
Bullock Cap Hold 5,5 (Max 10 - Early Birds Exception).
Rose: 7M
Burks 6-8M
Frank, Taj, Melo and Clarke gets the Minimum
Noel gets the Room MLE 6M
Lillard gets traded only for picks.
Clarke Who? Terrence (in memoriam?)

Its possible. But its not likely.
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Re: PG: Too big too fast too strong too good 

Post#344 » by DaGawd » Tue May 4, 2021 11:51 pm

Besart19 wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
Besart19 wrote:Next season:

Mitch / Toppin / Noel
Randle / Melo / Gibson
Barrett / Bullock / Knox
Quickley / Burks / Clarke
Lillard / Rose / Ntilikina

NBA Champions

So... uh..... the blazers donated Lillard to us for charity? :lol:


5 first rounders... his departure means a full reset!

Mitch
Randle
Kawhi
Quickley
Lillard

Is anothee option and you dont give a **** who comes off the bench

Love the optimism.. blazers gonna want a blue chipper back first in addition to picks. They want RJ. Thunder got SGA for PG
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Re: PG: Too big too fast too strong too good 

Post#345 » by makeitstop » Wed May 5, 2021 12:48 am

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Re: PG: Too big too fast too strong too good 

Post#346 » by F N 11 » Wed May 5, 2021 1:23 am

makeitstop wrote:This clown...

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Media loves putting words in Knick fans' mouth.


I want the Lakers bad now. Also Steven A went off so he responding to Steven A. I liked him but he got me mad with this one.
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Re: PG: Too big too fast too strong too good 

Post#347 » by Monk1718 » Wed May 5, 2021 5:04 am

makeitstop wrote:This clown...

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Media loves putting words in Knick fans' mouth.

He’s looking for attention and he’s getting it.
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Re: PG: Too big too fast too strong too good 

Post#348 » by Oscirus » Wed May 5, 2021 6:05 am

Monk1718 wrote:
makeitstop wrote:This clown...

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Media loves putting words in Knick fans' mouth.

He’s looking for attention and he’s getting it.

Pretty much. Im sure he'll bragging about baiting twitter idiots tommorrow but i mean probs shouldnt be bragging when he ran from durant but its wutevs, I guess he's relevant for something non skip related.
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Re: PG: Too big too fast too strong too good 

Post#349 » by cgf » Wed May 5, 2021 11:26 am

Besart19 wrote:Next season:

Mitch / Toppin / Noel
Randle / Melo / Gibson
Barrett / Bullock / Knox
Quickley / Burks / Clarke
Lillard / Rose / Ntilikina

NBA Champions

No need to rush things. Solidify ourselves next season by signing RFAs that could grow with us like Lonzo / Trent / Horton-Tucker and wait for the right 3rd star to fit with RJ & Julius' timeline, then by next summer hopefully the right move will be available.

2021-2022
Lonzo | D. Rose | Butler
Bullock | Quickley | Frank
Barrett | Burks | Williams
Randle | Toppin | Murphy
Robinson | Noel | Gibson

2022-2023
(sign Lavine)
Lonzo | Butler
Lavine | Quickley
Barrett | Williams
Randle | Murphy
Robinson | Toppin

(trade Butler/IQ + picks for Sexton)
Sexton | Bulter/IQ
Lonzo | Bullock/Burks
Barrett | Williams
Randle | Murphy
Robinson | Toppin

(trade Toppin + Butler/IQ + Murphy + picks for Booker/Mitchel/Fox)
Lonzo | Butler/IQ
Booker | Burks
Barrett | Bullock
Randle | Williams
Robinson | Noel
dogrufus wrote:Plus the win would put us at .500 and 5 straight wins, making every poster here cream in their pants.

We're Knicks fans. We never get to cream.


cgmw wrote:Basically, in conclusion: I'd like Dolan to get off my lawn.
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Re: PG: Too big too fast too strong too good 

Post#350 » by thebuzzardman » Wed May 5, 2021 11:31 am

makeitstop wrote:This clown...

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Media loves putting words in Knick fans' mouth.


I don't care what this mushmouth f*ck says about football. I could really care less what his opinion is on basketball. Of which he's no more qualified to talk about than any single poster on here, by the way.
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Re: PG: Too big too fast too strong too good 

Post#351 » by thebuzzardman » Wed May 5, 2021 11:32 am

cgf wrote:
Besart19 wrote:Next season:

Mitch / Toppin / Noel
Randle / Melo / Gibson
Barrett / Bullock / Knox
Quickley / Burks / Clarke
Lillard / Rose / Ntilikina

NBA Champions

No need to rush things. Solidify ourselves next season by signing RFAs that could grow with us like Lonzo / Trent / Horton-Tucker and wait for the right 3rd star to fit with RJ & Julius' timeline, then by next summer hopefully the right move will be available.

2021-2022
Lonzo | D. Rose | Butler
Bullock | Quickley | Frank
Barrett | Burks | Williams
Randle | Toppin | Murphy
Robinson | Noel | Gibson

2022-2023
(sign Lavine)
Lonzo | Butler
Lavine | Quickley
Barrett | Williams
Randle | Murphy
Robinson | Toppin

(trade Butler/IQ + picks for Sexton)
Sexton | Bulter/IQ
Lonzo | Bullock/Burks
Barrett | Williams
Randle | Murphy
Robinson | Toppin

(trade Toppin + Butler/IQ + Murphy + picks for Booker/Mitchel/Fox)
Lonzo | Butler/IQ
Booker | Burks
Barrett | Bullock
Randle | Williams
Robinson | Noel



I sideways alluded to this approach in the JVG thread, but this perfectly articulates the move where Lonzo is that iterative piece for a year.
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Re: PG: Too big too fast too strong too good 

Post#352 » by cgf » Wed May 5, 2021 11:45 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
makeitstop wrote:This clown...

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Media loves putting words in Knick fans' mouth.


I don't care what this mushmouth f*ck says about football. I could really care less what his opinion is on basketball. Of which he's no more qualified to talk about than any single poster on here, by the way.

I have to disagree with you there. Most of us haven't suffered nearly as much brain damage in our teens & 20s, so we still have the capacity to think about what we're going to say before speaking.
dogrufus wrote:Plus the win would put us at .500 and 5 straight wins, making every poster here cream in their pants.

We're Knicks fans. We never get to cream.


cgmw wrote:Basically, in conclusion: I'd like Dolan to get off my lawn.
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Re: PG: Too big too fast too strong too good 

Post#353 » by cgf » Wed May 5, 2021 11:58 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
cgf wrote:
Besart19 wrote:Next season:

Mitch / Toppin / Noel
Randle / Melo / Gibson
Barrett / Bullock / Knox
Quickley / Burks / Clarke
Lillard / Rose / Ntilikina

NBA Champions

No need to rush things. Solidify ourselves next season by signing RFAs that could grow with us like Lonzo / Trent / Horton-Tucker and wait for the right 3rd star to fit with RJ & Julius' timeline, then by next summer hopefully the right move will be available.

2021-2022
Lonzo | D. Rose | Butler
Bullock | Quickley | Frank
Barrett | Burks | Williams
Randle | Toppin | Murphy
Robinson | Noel | Gibson

2022-2023
(sign Lavine)
Lonzo | Butler
Lavine | Quickley
Barrett | Williams
Randle | Murphy
Robinson | Toppin

(trade Butler/IQ + picks for Sexton)
Sexton | Bulter/IQ
Lonzo | Bullock/Burks
Barrett | Williams
Randle | Murphy
Robinson | Toppin

(trade Toppin + Butler/IQ + Murphy + picks for Booker/Mitchel/Fox)
Lonzo | Butler/IQ
Booker | Burks
Barrett | Bullock
Randle | Williams
Robinson | Noel



I sideways alluded to this approach in the JVG thread, but this perfectly articulates the move where Lonzo is that iterative piece for a year.

Yep. JVG has a point as we absolutely need to bolster ourselves for next season...teams will expect us, we've been surprisingly healthy this year, development isn't linear (aka kids can regress before taking the next step forward), and you never know who will have a down-shooting year...and we don't want to lock ourselves into this squad without trying to add a 3rd star, but this summer will still be too soon for that big swing. Another year of building a competitive core and positioning ourselves to make that big move would leave us in a great position to pounce next summer...whether it's for one of the elite young stars or one of those plan-B's.

And if we pulled it off, we'd be ready to open a nice long window: Julius established as a superstar, RJ in year 4 starting to enter his prime, Lonzo & Mitch in their primes, Obi & IQ entering year 3, and any rookies we nab this year having had the chance to get blooded in so we could find out which ones will be ready to contribute in 22-23 and which ones still need to redshirt behind a vet.
dogrufus wrote:Plus the win would put us at .500 and 5 straight wins, making every poster here cream in their pants.

We're Knicks fans. We never get to cream.


cgmw wrote:Basically, in conclusion: I'd like Dolan to get off my lawn.
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Re: PG: Too big too fast too strong too good 

Post#354 » by BKlutch » Wed May 5, 2021 1:21 pm

cgf wrote:
Besart19 wrote:Next season:

Mitch / Toppin / Noel
Randle / Melo / Gibson
Barrett / Bullock / Knox
Quickley / Burks / Clarke
Lillard / Rose / Ntilikina

NBA Champions

No need to rush things. Solidify ourselves next season by signing RFAs that could grow with us like Lonzo / Trent / Horton-Tucker and wait for the right 3rd star to fit with RJ & Julius' timeline, then by next summer hopefully the right move will be available.

2021-2022
Lonzo | D. Rose | Butler
Bullock | Quickley | Frank
Barrett | Burks | Williams
Randle | Toppin | Murphy
Robinson | Noel | Gibson

2022-2023
(sign Lavine)
Lonzo | Butler
Lavine | Quickley
Barrett | Williams
Randle | Murphy
Robinson | Toppin

(trade Butler/IQ + picks for Sexton)
Sexton | Bulter/IQ
Lonzo | Bullock/Burks
Barrett | Williams
Randle | Murphy
Robinson | Toppin

(trade Toppin + Butler/IQ + Murphy + picks for Booker/Mitchel/Fox)
Lonzo | Butler/IQ
Booker | Burks
Barrett | Bullock
Randle | Williams
Robinson | Noel

Besart always rushes things. LOL. This looks like a long term plan -- need to check with Leon so see if we're doing long term plans now. I know he wants to win now, but does he want a dynasty?
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Post#355 » by F N 11 » Wed May 5, 2021 1:48 pm

Is Melo going to wake up out his oreo coma to make the damn game thread? :lol:
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Re: PG: Too big too fast too strong too good 

Post#356 » by cgf » Wed May 5, 2021 2:04 pm

BKlutch wrote:
cgf wrote:
Besart19 wrote:Next season:

Mitch / Toppin / Noel
Randle / Melo / Gibson
Barrett / Bullock / Knox
Quickley / Burks / Clarke
Lillard / Rose / Ntilikina

NBA Champions

No need to rush things. Solidify ourselves next season by signing RFAs that could grow with us like Lonzo / Trent / Horton-Tucker and wait for the right 3rd star to fit with RJ & Julius' timeline, then by next summer hopefully the right move will be available.

2021-2022
Lonzo | D. Rose | Butler
Bullock | Quickley | Frank
Barrett | Burks | Williams
Randle | Toppin | Murphy
Robinson | Noel | Gibson

2022-2023
(sign Lavine)
Lonzo | Butler
Lavine | Quickley
Barrett | Williams
Randle | Murphy
Robinson | Toppin

(trade Butler/IQ + picks for Sexton)
Sexton | Bulter/IQ
Lonzo | Bullock/Burks
Barrett | Williams
Randle | Murphy
Robinson | Toppin

(trade Toppin + Butler/IQ + Murphy + picks for Booker/Mitchel/Fox)
Lonzo | Butler/IQ
Booker | Burks
Barrett | Bullock
Randle | Williams
Robinson | Noel

Besart always rushes things. LOL. This looks like a long term plan -- need to check with Leon so see if we're doing long term plans now. I know he wants to win now, but does he want a dynasty?

It's not as black & white as win-now or tank-n-rebuild. Judging by their moves so far, this FO might just understand that.
dogrufus wrote:Plus the win would put us at .500 and 5 straight wins, making every poster here cream in their pants.

We're Knicks fans. We never get to cream.


cgmw wrote:Basically, in conclusion: I'd like Dolan to get off my lawn.
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Re: PG: Too big too fast too strong too good 

Post#357 » by Jeff Van Gully » Wed May 5, 2021 2:32 pm

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Probably. But I saw the diamond in the rough. :D Rose was still attacking the basketball well and his BBIQ has always been good. But his 3-point shoot was really bad back then.

But, hey, we're living in the present and future looks bright! 8-) And kudos to Rose for continuing to work hard on his game. I love the way he's playing right now.


i share joy in the present with you, my brother. you just using your rose colored glasses to look for flowers in the past that ain't there. even rose says he was all wrong in NY the first time and sees this as an opportunity to redeem his reputation (based on his play and behavior).


“Rose-colorered glasses” :lol:

If Rose says he wasn’t right, then he wasn’t right. But we’d still see occasional flashes of his talent. Wasn’t he still working his back from an injury when we signed him?


yes. and to be fair, he was playing the role that was asked of him in that bizarre roster.
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Re: PG: Too big too fast too strong too good 

Post#358 » by Tron Carter » Wed May 5, 2021 2:35 pm

F N 11 wrote:Is Melo going to wake up out his oreo coma to make the damn game thread? :lol:


he got cocky now he's lacking
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Re: PG: Too big too fast too strong too good 

Post#359 » by makeitstop » Wed May 5, 2021 2:58 pm

F N 11 wrote:
makeitstop wrote:This clown...

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Media loves putting words in Knick fans' mouth.


I want the Lakers bad now. Also Steven A went off so he responding to Steven A. I liked him but he got me mad with this one.


He mentions Rapaport - from what I read he had Rapaport on as a 'Knicks fan' and Rap mentioned winning a chip.

Rap defected, so his thoughts as a Knick fan are worthless.

And Sharp is upset because the Knicks are keeping up with the Lakers as far as W-L.

I like that NYK makes all these dopes so mad, though. :lol:
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