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Knicks point guard options in offseason

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What the Knicks should do this summer?

sign Lonzo on a multi-year deal
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trade our youth an picks for Lillard or other superstar PG
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sign Lowry/Conley probably on 1+1 contract (player option)
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sign Schroder (3/45
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Re: Knicks point guard options in offseason 

Post#501 » by Fat Kat » Sat Jun 5, 2021 6:12 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
nedleeds wrote:
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Seems pretty clear that he didn’t think that Lonzo was good enough to man the position. And you know how tight Thibs is with the Van Gundy family.


Lonzo improved his standstill shooting but he can't shoot off the dribble or run a high PnR. He's anus at finishing around the basket and in general doesn't have the burst or skill to get around NBA defenders 1v1. It's fast break or he's a stand still shooter in half court, which isn't a bad person to have on your roster but not for $24 million. Plus injured a bunch.

Lonzo is another 3D player. He's definitely not a point guard.


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Re: Knicks point guard options in offseason 

Post#502 » by ENYK » Sat Jun 5, 2021 6:15 pm

Fat Kat wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:
nedleeds wrote:
Lonzo improved his standstill shooting but he can't shoot off the dribble or run a high PnR. He's anus at finishing around the basket and in general doesn't have the burst or skill to get around NBA defenders 1v1. It's fast break or he's a stand still shooter in half court, which isn't a bad person to have on your roster but not for $24 million. Plus injured a bunch.

Lonzo is another 3D player. He's definitely not a point guard.


I’ve been trying to tell them, but they won’t listen


Lonzo would provide us with a similar skill set to RJ (with better open court passing) for 2-3 times the cost.

Definite hard pass.
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Re: Knicks point guard options in offseason 

Post#503 » by louisorr » Sat Jun 5, 2021 6:34 pm

ENYK wrote:
Fat Kat wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:Lonzo is another 3D player. He's definitely not a point guard.


I’ve been trying to tell them, but they won’t listen


Lonzo would provide us with a similar skill set to RJ (with better open court passing) for 2-3 times the cost.

Definite hard pass.

Then again even if he's just a better Frank it still improves the team. Bottom line is the most valuable franchise in sports shouldn't be operating at the cap floor (unless it's strategic), so if they want to sign Ball, while I wouldn't be thrilled, I wouldn't hate it.
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Re: Knicks point guard options in offseason 

Post#504 » by Chanel Bomber » Sat Jun 5, 2021 6:45 pm

louisorr wrote:
ENYK wrote:
Fat Kat wrote:
I’ve been trying to tell them, but they won’t listen


Lonzo would provide us with a similar skill set to RJ (with better open court passing) for 2-3 times the cost.

Definite hard pass.

Then again even if he's just a better Frank it still improves the team. Bottom line is the most valuable franchise in sports shouldn't be operating at the cap floor (unless it's strategic), so if they want to sign Ball, while I wouldn't be thrilled, I wouldn't hate it.

Filling the roster with bang average players makes us worse.

The Knicks need to prioritize quality over quantity in the immediate future, and fill out the roster later.

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Re: Knicks point guard options in offseason 

Post#505 » by Chanel Bomber » Sat Jun 5, 2021 6:49 pm

Fat Kat wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:
nedleeds wrote:
Lonzo improved his standstill shooting but he can't shoot off the dribble or run a high PnR. He's anus at finishing around the basket and in general doesn't have the burst or skill to get around NBA defenders 1v1. It's fast break or he's a stand still shooter in half court, which isn't a bad person to have on your roster but not for $24 million. Plus injured a bunch.

Lonzo is another 3D player. He's definitely not a point guard.


I’ve been trying to tell them, but they won’t listen

What do you expect, they're all horrible people.

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Re: Knicks point guard options in offseason 

Post#506 » by nedleeds » Sat Jun 5, 2021 6:50 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
louisorr wrote:
ENYK wrote:
Lonzo would provide us with a similar skill set to RJ (with better open court passing) for 2-3 times the cost.

Definite hard pass.

Then again even if he's just a better Frank it still improves the team. Bottom line is the most valuable franchise in sports shouldn't be operating at the cap floor (unless it's strategic), so if they want to sign Ball, while I wouldn't be thrilled, I wouldn't hate it.

Filling the roster with bang average players makes us worse.

The Knicks need to prioritize quality over quantity in the immediate future, and fill out the roster later.

imo


Just sign Frank for 3/$12 million vs. Lonzo for 4/$26 million at that point. Again this team isn't winning anything any time soon. But the FO likely doesn't think that way, they'll eat the CAA peyote and think we're close to a 2 seed when we're more like a 8th seed.
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Re: Knicks point guard options in offseason 

Post#507 » by god shammgod » Sat Jun 5, 2021 8:55 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
louisorr wrote:
ENYK wrote:
Lonzo would provide us with a similar skill set to RJ (with better open court passing) for 2-3 times the cost.

Definite hard pass.

Then again even if he's just a better Frank it still improves the team. Bottom line is the most valuable franchise in sports shouldn't be operating at the cap floor (unless it's strategic), so if they want to sign Ball, while I wouldn't be thrilled, I wouldn't hate it.

Filling the roster with bang average players makes us worse.

The Knicks need to prioritize quality over quantity in the immediate future, and fill out the roster later.

imo


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Re: Knicks point guard options in offseason 

Post#508 » by Chanel Bomber » Sat Jun 5, 2021 9:15 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:
louisorr wrote:Then again even if he's just a better Frank it still improves the team. Bottom line is the most valuable franchise in sports shouldn't be operating at the cap floor (unless it's strategic), so if they want to sign Ball, while I wouldn't be thrilled, I wouldn't hate it.

Filling the roster with bang average players makes us worse.

The Knicks need to prioritize quality over quantity in the immediate future, and fill out the roster later.

imo


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Re: Knicks point guard options in offseason 

Post#509 » by ENYK » Sat Jun 5, 2021 9:20 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:Filling the roster with bang average players makes us worse.

The Knicks need to prioritize quality over quantity in the immediate future, and fill out the roster later.

imo


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I have no doubt in my mind that Markelle Fultz will one day be a Knick... And we will sign him to some sort of multi year deal.
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Re: Knicks point guard options in offseason 

Post#510 » by Wharton Alum 08 » Sat Jun 5, 2021 11:12 pm

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Pry Brogdon from the Pacers.


He's hurt every 5 days. None of these twats changes ****. Just start IQ.


He played 56 out of 72 games in a COVID season where everyone was hurt. Plus, he'll have Rose backing him up at PG.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/brogdma01.html

Forget about Thibs starting IQ. That'll never happen.


Man it seems like it’s become a forgone conclusion on here Rose will be back but I doubt if a big minute PG is signed he walks. He was literally the second best player when he was traded and the best in the playoffs. You think he wants to play 15-20 minutes a game
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Re: Knicks point guard options in offseason 

Post#511 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Jun 6, 2021 1:15 am

Wharton Alum 08 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
nedleeds wrote:
He's hurt every 5 days. None of these twats changes ****. Just start IQ.


He played 56 out of 72 games in a COVID season where everyone was hurt. Plus, he'll have Rose backing him up at PG.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/brogdma01.html

Forget about Thibs starting IQ. That'll never happen.


Man it seems like it’s become a forgone conclusion on here Rose will be back but I doubt if a big minute PG is signed he walks. He was literally the second best player when he was traded and the best in the playoffs. You think he wants to play 15-20 minutes a game


He wants/needs to play no more than 25 mpg. He'll need to be managed. No other team will be looking to sign DRose to start and play 32-5 mpg. He'd never last a full season.
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Re: Knicks point guard options in offseason 

Post#512 » by Adelheid » Sun Jun 6, 2021 1:35 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
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He played 56 out of 72 games in a COVID season where everyone was hurt. Plus, he'll have Rose backing him up at PG.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/brogdma01.html

Forget about Thibs starting IQ. That'll never happen.


Man it seems like it’s become a forgone conclusion on here Rose will be back but I doubt if a big minute PG is signed he walks. He was literally the second best player when he was traded and the best in the playoffs. You think he wants to play 15-20 minutes a game


I wants/needs to play no more than 25 mpg. He'll need to be managed. No other team will be looking to sign DRose to start and play 32-5 mpg. He'd never last a full season.


Hopefully he gets signed back as the backup. We all wanted him to return after his performance this season. But he would be in a body bag if he is billed as a starter considering that Thibs gives starters huge minutes
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Post#513 » by Zenzibar » Sun Jun 6, 2021 2:09 am

What are you guys hearing on the Kendrick Nunn front? An Payton/Reggie Bullock replacement?

According to SNY’s Ian Begley, the Knicks are keeping a close eye on Nunn ahead of free agency. The second-year player enjoyed a breakout rookie campaign last season as he played a key part in Miami’s run to the finals, averaging 15.3 points and 3.3 assists per night. In 2020/21, his numbers took a slight dip, but Nunn still put up 14.6 points while improving his clip from downtown to 38%.

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Post#514 » by Ghetto Gospel » Sun Jun 6, 2021 2:11 am

this the guy y'all want?

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Post#515 » by nedleeds » Sun Jun 6, 2021 3:13 am

Ghetto Gospel wrote:this the guy y'all want?



He got one thing right, he's not playin' no more. He got injured and they missed the playoffs despite the NBA trying everything to get ZIon in.
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Re: Knicks point guard options in offseason 

Post#516 » by nykballa2k4 » Sun Jun 6, 2021 3:24 am

aggo wrote:UNDER NO circumstances can Randle be our best player heading into next season

What is it that you guys can’t comprehend about this???!!


Why? How many players are realistically better than he is and available?
We are better served to build like the early 00's Pistons and then when a lead dog becomes available, that piece takes us over the top.

My preference would be to trade for Kemba and obtain an asset for taking on his contract.
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Re: Knicks point guard options in offseason 

Post#517 » by TheGreenArrow » Sun Jun 6, 2021 3:28 am

LONZO BALL FOLKS!!!!!!

LONZO BALL!!!!!!!!
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Post#518 » by KnicksGadfly » Sun Jun 6, 2021 3:33 am

Zenzibar wrote:What are you guys hearing on the Kendrick Nunn front? An Payton/Reggie Bullock replacement?

According to SNY’s Ian Begley, the Knicks are keeping a close eye on Nunn ahead of free agency. The second-year player enjoyed a breakout rookie campaign last season as he played a key part in Miami’s run to the finals, averaging 15.3 points and 3.3 assists per night. In 2020/21, his numbers took a slight dip, but Nunn still put up 14.6 points while improving his clip from downtown to 38%.



I’m intrigued. He comes from the Miami system, which I think fits our culture. He doesn’t seem like he’ll get as inflated a contract as Schroeder or Lonzo.
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Post#519 » by KnicksGadfly » Sun Jun 6, 2021 3:33 am

By the way, who is the pg you guys DON’T want?

For me, it’s Shroeder.
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Re: Knicks point guard options in offseason 

Post#520 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Jun 6, 2021 3:43 am

Adelheid wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
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Man it seems like it’s become a forgone conclusion on here Rose will be back but I doubt if a big minute PG is signed he walks. He was literally the second best player when he was traded and the best in the playoffs. You think he wants to play 15-20 minutes a game


He wants/needs to play no more than 25 mpg. He'll need to be managed. No other team will be looking to sign DRose to start and play 32-5 mpg. He'd never last a full season.


Hopefully he gets signed back as the backup. We all wanted him to return after his performance this season. But he would be in a body bag if he is billed as a starter considering that Thibs gives starters huge minutes


He'd have trouble being a full-time starter on any team. He's a great 6th man tho.

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